Democratic Primaries

Hortensis

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25. Wishful thinking. It's foolish to get all emotionally invested

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 02:33 PM

Oct 2019

in one candidate and feed that enthusiasm by soaking up reasons to oppose others. Everything is about winning the GE and winning it big, and this is just the runup to the real battle.

We know the RW swiftboat industry, the MSM, and Russia have been tearing down Biden and simultaneously boosting Warren, of course. Same as Hillary-Sanders. If it became her turn to be turned into an dangerous, contemptible witch, her happy wishful enthusiasts would be in for a big shock. I suspect a fair number of them are still under the influence that Hillary really was sunk under genuine "baggage," really was "unlikeable," and really was "too untrustworthy" to vote for. Oh, yeah, and she ran a stupid-bad campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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With a due resect, Warren is NOT the new frontrunner! [View all] UncleNoel Oct 2019 OP

The Candidates at the debate seemed to think otherwise. crazytown Oct 2019 #1

She certainly rose in the polls dramatically UncleNoel Oct 2019 #4

The other moderates are laying off Joe because they want his voters BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #9

He is not fading and I do not believe Warren does well outside of super liberal areas like New York Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #17

They're hoping he fades so they can avoid attacking him BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #21

Attacking him will backfire ...and I did read it and stand by my statement. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #29

Sanders and Warren don't appear to think Biden is "fading." emulatorloo Oct 2019 #39

yeah she will totally die in non super liberal areas like qazplm135 Oct 2019 #26

I sincerely hope so...I really do. I don't see anyone but Biden winning a general or helping us with Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #30

Contrary to DU conventional wisdom, Iowa Democratic caucus goers lean liberal/progressive emulatorloo Oct 2019 #40

There is a depth of goodwill and affection for VP Biden, crazytown Oct 2019 #10

Yes, they did. It made me wonder if the RW/Russian attempt Hortensis Oct 2019 #24

it seemed that way nt Celerity Oct 2019 #5

Guess what? DownriverDem Oct 2019 #11

And we will have to deal with it. crazytown Oct 2019 #14

And we will lose. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #18

We can add the poll just posted by Gothmog UncleNoel Oct 2019 #2

that poll was incorrectly labelled 'new', it is not, It is from a range of 11 to 15 days ago. Celerity Oct 2019 #6

You are correct she is not the frontrunner. Joe941 Oct 2019 #3

When are folks going to DownriverDem Oct 2019 #13

Some believe here that they can elect Warren because they can make voters want her with the Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #19

You can say that about each candidate and their supporters. Blue_Adept Oct 2019 #23

I think he meant that at DU we lose touch with the rest of our party "out there." Here, Warren emmaverybo Oct 2019 #27

You could...but I had a poster here tell me she believed that Biden would win but she thought Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #31

Wishful thinking. It's foolish to get all emotionally invested Hortensis Oct 2019 #25

I agree with everything you said. Hillary was sunk by the right wing smear machine...and I have been Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #32

Yes. :) Same here, Dems. Hortensis Oct 2019 #34

Agree. EC. Bernie is the only one beating Trump in Iowa (Emerson yesterday) nt floppyboo Oct 2019 #36

I saw that poll, great news for Bernie. emulatorloo Oct 2019 #41

Reggliecandlee had a post with link to a good rundown of the current situation UncleNoel Oct 2019 #7

Good info. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #12

It looks like media is afraid of Warren; but I don't believe this real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #15

They want Warren to be the candidate for the most part...no other explanation for their behavior. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #20

Yes they do Green Line Oct 2019 #28

I'm surprised Bayard Oct 2019 #16

Same here it makes no sense to me. His heart is in the right place but emulatorloo Oct 2019 #22

I think they only asked him 2 questions in the debate. Bayard Oct 2019 #38

Without significant African American voter support, Warren will not be the nominee Gothmog Oct 2019 #33

Oh Wow.. Biden has gone higher % wise Cha Oct 2019 #35

... Scurrilous Oct 2019 #37