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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:42 AM Oct 2019

Veteran: "Tulsi Gabbard is a fake" [View all]

This is a very interesting look at Tulsi Gabbard from a veteran and Bernie Sanders supporter who dealt with her directly. (I normally wouldn't post something like this, but I believe she is a disruptive and dangerous force in our party and must be exposed and called out before she does some real harm to our chances of getting Trump out of the White House)




Here's the full thread from Threadreader: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1185346410381742082.html?fbclid=IwAR2yM92E1pjpzLNqQhETAgePpWhL4Q1Nybk2Bx5jVsCvGA0o7q9w56sd4Yk
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I met with #TulsiGabbard in 2016, while campaigning for Bernie.

I was a State Director for Vets For Bernie at the time (not supporting him this election) and our vet organization was having some issues with the campaign.

I had raised the issues, so they sent in Tulsi.

The issue we had was that the campaign had been completely ignoring us.

No mentions, no retweets, no events—nothing.

We had built a liberal veteran organization, numbering some 15K, and the campaign refused to acknowledge us.

So we let them know we weren’t happy about that.

It seemed perfectly logical to us, that promoting the fact that Bernie had that kind of veteran support would be a huge benefit.

So we pressed them on this, and they came back with a plan for a veteran event for Bernie to speak at.

It was to be in NYC, and we contacted all the vets we could to be there.

Plans were made, time off work prepared for, and flights booked.

But at the last minute, they canceled on us—so that Bernie could fly to Rome, and receive an award from the Pope.

He’s not even catholic.

Naturally, this upset us. And a number of our vets said “screw it”, and left the organization.

That’s when I notified the campaign that we were fed up with how they were running things, and were going to start talking about the incident publicly.

Enter #TulsiGabbard.

They set up a meeting for us to speak, but I knew she would just try to placate us and squash the issue.

So we met, and talked for quite a while.

When I asked her why the campaign wasn’t promoting Vets For Bernie, she said—and I’m quoting here—“appealing to veterans is not a winning strategy in a Democratic primary.”

That was interesting, considering the fact that she touts her veteran status at every opportunity.

When I further explained that we weren’t seeking the “veteran vote” —only trying to highlight Bernie’s veteran support—she still acted like it wasn’t a worthwhile endeavor.

Again— she’s a veteran.


They were upset by the fact that I’d threatened to go public with the fact that they’d snubbed our vets for a trip to the Vatican, so I explained why we’d made that threat.

I used an analogy, as I often do.

I said, “Vets For Bernie is a powerful weapon. But you don’t realize that, because you refuse to use it. Sometimes, you don’t know the full power of a weapon until it’s used against you. That’s what we’re trying to show you.”

The meeting ended pleasantly.

Or so I thought...

The next day I was told by the director of Vets For Bernie, that Tulsi was offended by my use of a “weapon analogy.”

That was her takeaway.

An Iraq War veteran, was “offended” that another Iraq War veteran used an analogy about a weapon?

No.

No.

She wasn’t “offended.”

She was just playing the game.

She’s a two faced politician—nothing more.

It was simply their attempt to silence my objections, and discredit my position.

It ended up causing quite an issue for me as a State Director for VFB.

I didn’t leave the organization, but I was effectively silenced — as were our objections to being snubbed for the Pope.

I guess I’m crazy for thinking that our veterans should be more important to a presidential candidate, than a foreign religious leader.

Even if he is the goddamn Pope.

But I don’t even care about that incident anymore.

What sticks with me is how Gabbard responded — with an attempt to smear me, by claiming I’d “offended her.”

#TulsiGabbard will say and do whatever she can to protect herself, and get ahead.

Believe me when I say this:

She can’t be trusted.

I was content to keep this little incident to myself.

And in the grand scheme of things, it’s not a “big story.”

But seeing her recent behaviors: threatening to boycott the debates, and acting as a Democratic Party disruptor—

I thought I’d share it.

#TulsiGabbard is a fake.

I don’t know what her agenda is, but it’s not “what’s best for the nation.”

Whatever it is, it revolves around what’s best for her.

And she’ll trash any group or person who gets in the way of her ascension— including her fellow veterans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Veteran: "Tulsi Gabbard is a fake" [View all] StarfishSaver Oct 2019 OP
Thanks for posting this irisblue Oct 2019 #1
YES, thank you for posting this! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #2
So, what about her ideas? glegear1 Oct 2019 #3
Welcome to DU StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #4
Buckle up, lots more KGB operatives to come and they will be here and everywhere. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2019 #6
That could be seen yesterday as well Hav Oct 2019 #19
Well spotted. Very well spotted. Hekate Oct 2019 #57
Which of her ideas do you like? Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #5
:) LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #14
I'm pretty sure we won't get an answer to that question. groundloop Oct 2019 #18
I don't think they've opened that information packet yet. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #49
Ideas are totally worthless PatSeg Oct 2019 #21
This! mcar Oct 2019 #29
Yes, they are. Perseus Oct 2019 #24
her stated ideas are irrelevant stevesinpa Oct 2019 #25
yes, they are. Her statements on Hillary and the Democratic Party are dead wrong. Next fucking TeamPooka Oct 2019 #38
What positions are those? Tarc Oct 2019 #39
Welcome to DU! lapucelle Oct 2019 #52
Yes. She came back from visiting Assad, the murderer of millions, in 2016 pnwmom Oct 2019 #58
LOL Skittles Oct 2019 #85
Does she like chocolate? I like chocolate. (n/t) Iggo Oct 2019 #89
Your concerns are duly noted. Nt Javaman Oct 2019 #93
Who gives a fuck. BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #119
Once the truth came out there was no award from the Pope, he wasn't invited by the Pope.... George II Oct 2019 #7
omg.. can you believe this?! Cha Oct 2019 #8
I can believe it. Here's the report at the time: George II Oct 2019 #11
I lived it Cha Oct 2019 #15
Interesting. So he cancelled on a NYC Vets for Bernie rally.... paleotn Oct 2019 #26
So Bernie was there to address the conference on social justice. Scotch-Irish Oct 2019 #36
His campaign originally said he was invited by the Pope to meet him and speak at the conference..... George II Oct 2019 #40
From what I remember True Blue American Oct 2019 #61
Meeting with the Pope True Blue American Oct 2019 #41
Thanks for the link! It's very easy to forget what a crock that meeting was. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #60
Thanks for the link, George. I remember that happening, but was feeling lazy about looking it up. pnwmom Oct 2019 #59
No scipan Oct 2019 #76
The Vet's experience reminded me of this Tweet Cha Oct 2019 #10
Seriously? PatSeg Oct 2019 #22
Thou shall not bear false witness ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #51
I've always wondered why Bernie interrupted his campaign to fly to Rome. yardwork Oct 2019 #71
wrong. Tired of people spreading lies about Bernie. scipan Oct 2019 #73
Your posts do nothing to refute the other articles. All the impetus for the face time was coming pnwmom Oct 2019 #78
They refute the claim that he kind of waylaid the Pope. scipan Oct 2019 #86
No one said he waylaid the Pope. They said it wasn't true that the Pope pnwmom Oct 2019 #90
Yes they did. Post #7: scipan Oct 2019 #92
#2 came from one of the tweets by the veteran in the OP. pnwmom Oct 2019 #94
I'll take the Pope's word over Mr. Sachs' word, thank you. As for the award.... George II Oct 2019 #80
Source for "Pope's word"? scipan Oct 2019 #83
I believe someone else posted that here already. As we used to say on "Newsnet", RTFF. George II Oct 2019 #88
Ah. OK then, "newsnet", RTFF, whatever that means. scipan Oct 2019 #91
Here he is confirming to Joy that he was invited by Pope Francis OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #102
I was replying to the poster's claim that scipan Oct 2019 #103
The pope seemed to say it was not scheduled. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #104
it was, the day before. n/t scipan Oct 2019 #105
Here OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #100
Who paid for the trip? OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #95
They tried, but the FEC rejected the expense. No one knows who forked over the $800K. George II Oct 2019 #97
Looks like it was not planned. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #101
Righhht BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #120
She constantly touts her veteran status mcar Oct 2019 #9
I know.. weird.. and I believe it. Cha Oct 2019 #12
HRC has done us all a favor mcar Oct 2019 #13
Hillary took one for Cha Oct 2019 #16
Thanks for sharing. Do you know of that feeling one gets, when your gut instinct says ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #17
And she looks freaky in that photo. Nt BootinUp Oct 2019 #20
When she spoke in my hometown here in Iowa a few months ago, Sogo Oct 2019 #23
Solid gut feeling. Cha Oct 2019 #42
I'm a little weirded out that her ad is at the top of my screen right now, asking for a donation flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #27
The Google ads algorithm will post ads based on the words and images on a page. tblue37 Oct 2019 #37
Thank you for posting this Gothmog Oct 2019 #28
I wonder what her agenda is. UCmeNdc Oct 2019 #30
Well.... paleotn Oct 2019 #31
She's going to be primaried in 2020. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2019 #32
I sent him a few bucks yesterday. Will do so again once the campaign heats up. George II Oct 2019 #77
oh my, are we going through that purple band aide, swift boater thingy again? nt yaesu Oct 2019 #33
I got 12 hours off Twitter because I called JanetLovesObama Oct 2019 #34
There is certainly no need to be ambiguous about it... SAY how you feel! not_the_one Oct 2019 #45
If you were President you would not have gotten a time out Generic Brad Oct 2019 #47
Nice to see some things never change. nt redqueen Oct 2019 #74
Damn.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #98
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #35
Thank you for posting this. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #43
She just really turns me off. I have a pretty finely tuned bullshit detector and it went off when I catbyte Oct 2019 #44
I'm not one to always "go with my gut, but this time - yes. colorado_ufo Oct 2019 #62
Gabbard helped swiftboat Al Franken to advance here own visibility as a candidate. Nitram Oct 2019 #46
Disgusted. Not surprised. BadgerMom Oct 2019 #48
Wow! OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #50
My dad is a 91 year old veteran, he is SOOOO not a fan of "her". Nuff said..... FM123 Oct 2019 #53
Thanks for this, Starfish. Bring on the information. Bring on the reality. nt Hekate Oct 2019 #54
K&R betsuni Oct 2019 #55
Thank You for your clear information proving ..."Tulsi Gabbard is a FAKE" Stuart G Oct 2019 #56
This whole Tulsi Gabbard debacle is very unfortunate. jimlup Oct 2019 #63
"Shut up, Hillary" StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #65
Yeah I totally expected to get flamed jimlup Oct 2019 #67
Responses to what you posted isn't "getting flamed" StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #69
No, she didn't just defend herself. redqueen Oct 2019 #75
THIS RIGHT HERE.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #99
Yep. And, um, when has she turned out to be wrong? calimary Oct 2019 #117
SMDH sheshe2 Oct 2019 #66
Note - I did not say that Hillary should jimlup Oct 2019 #68
Say what you please. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #70
A wee tad sensitive are we? jimlup Oct 2019 #72
Actually it is definitely NOT the same as telling her to "Sit down and shut up" jimlup Oct 2019 #81
You're calling Hillary Rodham Clinton "naive at best"? And you did indeed tell her to shut up StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #82
No it means naive... jimlup Oct 2019 #84
The most problematic line for me is when Tulsky said: ecstatic Oct 2019 #64
Yes. That remarks speaks VOLUMES about what she thinks of us vets. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #87
I am an Army veteran and I felt nauseated by Gabbard's majdrfrtim Oct 2019 #79
THANK YOU FOR THIS THREAD.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #96
A: Drama. Clicks. Grokenstein Oct 2019 #106
B: Truth : Period.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #113
Don't like Gabbard. Oh, and nice takedown KPN Oct 2019 #107
Something's rotten The Wizard Oct 2019 #108
Beto and Yang think we should stop trashing her nt Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #109
Yet they've said not a word about Tulsi trashing Hillary Clinton StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #110
Think both are averse to taking everything personal. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #111
They weren't averse to inserting themselves - they just decided to pick a side StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #114
Just don't want people trashing other people. Period Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #115
Looking forward to seeing you call out Tulsi for calling Hillary Clinton "the queen of warmongers, StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #116
Thanks for another trash a person response. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #118
Uh huh.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2019 #112
Yup... non-political types never gain traction. But beto Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #121
House seat challenger @kaikahele beating Tulsi Gabbard with Hawaii donors Gothmog Oct 2019 #122
Kicking! Cha Oct 2019 #123
Interesting article from CNN on Kahele Gothmog Oct 2019 #124
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