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TexasTowelie

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58. What constitutes a "proper" apology to you?
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:09 PM
Oct 2019

An apology is between two people. Anita Hill was not satisfied with Joe's apology earlier this year so I don't see where Biden should grovel to Anita Hill if she is going to be dissatisfied anyway. If anything, it makes Biden appear weak by doing so.

Unfortunately, in life I've found that some people are perpetually offended regardless as to whether a transgression was committed or the efforts of the person who allegedly made the offenses to empathize or correct the situation. Anita Hill has the right to harbor her grudges against Biden, but she shouldn't expect everyone else to be unforgiving about something that happened nearly three decades ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
This discussion might get interesting. groundloop Oct 2019 #1
No more so than the 10 million other times it's come up. BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #13
This is not breaking news in any sense. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #18
It wasn't posted in breaking news Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #34
Not so far it hasn't. But you keep trying. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #37
No question... Anita has every right after what she was put through!! #MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #50
It's Dr. Hill. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #66
LOL... no one respects Anita more than me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #67
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #68
LMFAO... but but but, it's okay to call Sen./Sec. Clinton "Hillary," VP Biden "Joe?! etc InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #71
SOS Clinton chose that mononym to differentiate herself from her husband. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #72
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #73
What a fantastic attitude! OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #80
I didn't get to see that post above, before you had it removed... but I can tell you InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #85
I had nothing removed. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #93
Many people with PhDs do not expect to be called Dr redqueen Oct 2019 #117
Ya think?! haha... but thanks for sayin' InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #141
Oh ok fine, but referring to her as Anita is so uncivilized as to lead to electing tRump President?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #140
Well good for you!! But why judge others?! Indeed, I absolutely LOVE Anita InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #83
Oh please...I went though way worse than she did...and survived literally was in the Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #91
She was publicly humiliated and abandoned before the entire country... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #98
She has milked it for years and used it against Democrats only...thus I have no respect for what she Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #115
The point is she DID go after the "right" person, THOMAS... and look how she was treated!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #120
it happened forty years ago...a different time. And I would not let something like that define my Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #124
I see your point... I'll leave it at that. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #126
Fair enough! By the way, I have looked extensively at the polls and believe that Sen. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #131
Kind of you to say, thanks... all the best!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #146
No she wasn't abandoned. George II Oct 2019 #137
She's living on the streets, penniless apparently jberryhill Oct 2019 #143
So NOT funny what happened to Anita. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #147
It's been great for her career jberryhill Oct 2019 #149
And that has what to do with how badly she was treated redqueen Oct 2019 #155
It has everything to do with going after Biden jberryhill Oct 2019 #161
He could defuse it redqueen Oct 2019 #163
oh, nonsense jberryhill Oct 2019 #164
Biden owes women everywhere an explanation and an apology. redqueen Oct 2019 #170
"an ACTUAL apology, and not the ersatz apologies" jberryhill Oct 2019 #171
I give up. redqueen Oct 2019 #173
Women who go to work for Republicans aren't asking for it kcr Oct 2019 #156
What a ridiculous takeaway jberryhill Oct 2019 #160
Wow. Tipperary Oct 2019 #103
I have seen them...but not at the time...she did some things that made her look bad like offering Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #119
I actually cannot believe I just read this here. Tipperary Oct 2019 #121
In the 1980's it would...if it was so horrible than why put yourself in a position to be alone Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #132
Yeah, and women who get raped better hope they were not Tipperary Oct 2019 #182
Right? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #172
I almost can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading about this. redqueen Oct 2019 #175
Wow nt redqueen Oct 2019 #118
It was what forty years ago? And never not once has she ever called out a Republican for it...Bush Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #123
It was 1991 ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #145
Ahhh, the early 90s. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #174
This - DURHAM D Oct 2019 #2
Everytime I have seen him talk about it loyalsister Oct 2019 #82
I love Hill; I admire Hill; I respect Hill; I believed her then and I believe her now but... hlthe2b Oct 2019 #3
You are assuming Biden is the only way to remove rump Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #15
NO, I am not. I, rather assume the damage to be spread over the entire field by RWers and it will. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #20
That is a deflection Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #31
No... ... You are wrong. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #33
Hard to argue with that logic Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #36
Like Warren's Franken Railroad Bagage? LakeArenal Oct 2019 #38
Isn't that bothsiderism? Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #43
Oh sure. Everyone has baggage LakeArenal Oct 2019 #46
As has been said... everyone has baggage. revmclaren Oct 2019 #70
I get it... it's bad form to hold all candidates to the same standards. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #169
Exactly, Joe's moderate incrementalism is not the only way! Indeed, Bernie has shown us a better way InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #52
Yes, but what baggage do those other candidates carry? TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #56
this post is definitely going to crush Biden EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #78
Not true...they have their own baggage and certain policy ideas from your candidate MFA most Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #95
So what you're saying is you support her until it gets inconvenient for you melman Oct 2019 #29
No.. that is absolute bullshit. MELMAN hlthe2b Oct 2019 #32
SHE'S THE ONE "MOVING ON" LakeArenal Oct 2019 #39
I stand with Anita. Joe should at least properly apologize to her... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #53
What constitutes a "proper" apology to you? TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #58
Fair enough, but then no one should be calling to silence Anita. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #62
I've been in the position where I've had to apologize for some of my actions TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #89
Fair point, though, if I recall, Joe's "apology" fell a bit flat. Will have to look at it again. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #92
Don't bother. TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #96
Ding Ding Ding Ding jberryhill Oct 2019 #165
He did, MORE than once. What are you looking for, specifically? George II Oct 2019 #136
But he has never had this good a shot as a candidate jberryhill Oct 2019 #102
These are the things that help Biden in a major way. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #4
Is Hill campaigning against Clarence Thomas? crazytown Oct 2019 #5
No, she's more like him than not jberryhill Oct 2019 #106
She was at Oral Roberts for less than 3 years. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #110
Yeah right. Michele Bachmann's alma mater jberryhill Oct 2019 #130
She graduated from Yale law school. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #138
Michelle Bachmann did not graduate from Yale jberryhill Oct 2019 #139
threat? evertonfc Oct 2019 #6
OK. That's fair stopdiggin Oct 2019 #7
No he has not. nt DURHAM D Oct 2019 #9
to your satisfaction (and that's fine) stopdiggin Oct 2019 #11
He obviously hasn't to Anita Hill Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #17
We know we know. Anita is still pissed LakeArenal Oct 2019 #21
We know Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #25
You are putting words in people's mouths. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #27
Really? Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #40
Geez. Moved on. Done with this thread LakeArenal Oct 2019 #44
Thanks for proving my point Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #45
Haha haha. You have it all in your head. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #48
Hate to butt in here, but he chaired the hearings, did he not? redqueen Oct 2019 #30
Those are not unilateral decisions by Joe. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #35
I haven't seen any claim that someone else made that decision. redqueen Oct 2019 #49
It was absolutely 100% Biden's choice not to call DURHAM D Oct 2019 #111
And it was absolutely 100% Biden's information... jberryhill Oct 2019 #167
Yes, the refusal to allow corroborating witnesses to testify was on Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #122
Yes, Anita is still pissed... as she has every right to be. #MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #69
Me too??? Joe Biden did NOT sexually harass Anita Hill, CLARENCE Pathwalker Oct 2019 #151
Not at all... but even Joe admits Anita got a raw deal and was deserving of more support. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #153
You must not recall that Biden's questions were so bad redqueen Oct 2019 #154
Nope her opinion ain't more important than mine Loki Liesmith Oct 2019 #88
Wow!! Why so harsh?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #152
Out of curiosity. What does Anita Hill have to acknowledge? Autumn Oct 2019 #47
"I'm sorry I wasn't able to do more" is not an apology StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #125
That's kinda how I see it. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #148
The wheels of justice turn slowly. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #8
He should have apologized right out of the gate. cwydro Oct 2019 #10
Exactly n/t Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #19
He never does melman Oct 2019 #26
I know, and I hate that because I really like him. cwydro Oct 2019 #84
Don't get why Joe always does that, given the depth of his political experience. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #150
That was my impression too... I think Joe made a political mistake on that one. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #99
I still have issues with what he did and didn't do. gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #12
#MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #54
Booooooring BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #14
I am sooooo over this. Won't work. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #16
So you are telling her "Get over it" Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #22
No one is telling her to get over it. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #24
It's "trotted out" for good reasons Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #41
Or. Could be that Anita is keeping it alive. Again and again. (nt) stopdiggin Oct 2019 #158
Could be she has very good reasons for talking about it Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #179
All fair points. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #100
Next we hear the too old carp. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #23
she has been milking it for years. And folks should go back an read some of her testimony...all I Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #94
Yawn Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #28
Me too -- yawns are contagious! nt BlueMississippi Oct 2019 #42
Is she ready to admit she's a REPUBLICAN yet? Pathwalker Oct 2019 #51
Fucking wow. /nt tonedevil Oct 2019 #57
Let's keep it classy. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #61
Calling Anita Hill... tonedevil Oct 2019 #63
Unreal... Anita should be praised for her contribution to the Democratic cause. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #86
Certain individuals appear to be intent on kneecapping our party's nominee... at all costs. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #59
Why now? dewsgirl Oct 2019 #55
What has Ms. Hill been up to all these years? empedocles Oct 2019 #60
She should air any and all remaining grievances now. ecstatic Oct 2019 #64
Anita Hill pamdb Oct 2019 #65
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #76
oh please don't. put yourself in her shoes for one second. there are better rebuttals than stfu Kurt V. Oct 2019 #81
Thank you for saying what I wanted to say. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2019 #183
This could be a positive opportunity for Biden. Aaron Pereira Oct 2019 #74
Anita Hill ready to help with trump's re-election calguy Oct 2019 #75
yawn EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #77
these posts have a significant backfire effect EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #79
It makes them look desperate beating this dead horse again and again...a big who cares. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #97
Yet she seems unwilling to hold Clarence Thomas accountable. Pathwalker Oct 2019 #87
Is she still trying this shit...funny she never mentions the Republicans...who nominated Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #90
Oral Roberts University faculty jberryhill Oct 2019 #108
That makes me sick. You can't be a Christian and support Trump or even Republicans...everything they Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #114
I was unaware she taught there...now your post makes sense...wow. Now I really don't Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #134
She left private practice to work in the Bush administration jberryhill Oct 2019 #142
Another $50 for Joe Dream Girl Oct 2019 #101
+1 EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #104
Me too. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #135
The Anita Hill situation happened in 1991. IluvPitties Oct 2019 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Oct 2019 #113
Who cares? Doodley Oct 2019 #107
Like clockwork. Biden has some good polls, let's revisit this still_one Oct 2019 #109
Bring it on Anita Hill CountAllVotes Oct 2019 #112
This again? "I'm ready to move on, but....." George II Oct 2019 #116
This is BS Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #127
you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #128
Anita Hill already said she will vote for Biden, so this topic is settled. gulliver Oct 2019 #129
Your OTT posts really aren't helping Senator Warren emulatorloo Oct 2019 #133
Like all the gross posts smearing Anita Hill by some Biden supporters kcr Oct 2019 #157
Some people suck. herding cats Oct 2019 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #181
You're charming. herding cats Oct 2019 #184
I went back and re-read it and apologize Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #185
It's all good. herding cats Oct 2019 #186
Agreed on attacks on Hill. This thread is flame-bait. emulatorloo Oct 2019 #166
Wrong on several points Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #180
who? n/t PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #144
Bit late in the game for that, isn't it?? Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #162
Well must be getting shallow, as we're now simply rebooting that which has been examined LanternWaste Oct 2019 #168
I sincerely don't get why some are getting so emotional about this. redqueen Oct 2019 #176
Fanboyism coupled with fear. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #177
Biden has been around for a while and isn't perfect, but who is? Joe941 Oct 2019 #178
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