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Act_of_Reparation

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177. Fanboyism coupled with fear.

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:14 PM

Oct 2019

It's bad enough we treat public servants like rock stars and pro-athletes. The fact that this election is something of an existential crisis gives stakes to what I would otherwise dismiss as irritating behavior.

People think if Candidate X doesn't win the primary, Trump will win. People think any criticism of Candidate X will result in their loss. It's as unfair as it is ridiculous, as simply supporting Candidate X in the general is not a sufficient display of loyalty. One must also appear to be enthusiastic about Candidate X. If Candidate X loses in the general, for whatever reason, everyone who supported Candidates Y and Z will be at fault because they criticized Candidate X in the primary.

I mean, if this the way we're going to do things, why have a primary at all?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Anita Hill ready to hold Biden accountable [View all] Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 OP

This discussion might get interesting. groundloop Oct 2019 #1

No more so than the 10 million other times it's come up. BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #13

This is not breaking news in any sense. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #18

It wasn't posted in breaking news Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #34

Not so far it hasn't. But you keep trying. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #37

No question... Anita has every right after what she was put through!! #MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #50

It's Dr. Hill. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #66

LOL... no one respects Anita more than me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #67

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #68

LMFAO... but but but, it's okay to call Sen./Sec. Clinton "Hillary," VP Biden "Joe?! etc InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #71

SOS Clinton chose that mononym to differentiate herself from her husband. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #72

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #73

What a fantastic attitude! OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #80

I didn't get to see that post above, before you had it removed... but I can tell you InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #85

I had nothing removed. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #93

Many people with PhDs do not expect to be called Dr redqueen Oct 2019 #117

Ya think?! haha... but thanks for sayin' InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #141

Oh ok fine, but referring to her as Anita is so uncivilized as to lead to electing tRump President?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #140

Well good for you!! But why judge others?! Indeed, I absolutely LOVE Anita InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #83

Oh please...I went though way worse than she did...and survived literally was in the Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #91

She was publicly humiliated and abandoned before the entire country... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #98

She has milked it for years and used it against Democrats only...thus I have no respect for what she Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #115

The point is she DID go after the "right" person, THOMAS... and look how she was treated!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #120

it happened forty years ago...a different time. And I would not let something like that define my Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #124

I see your point... I'll leave it at that. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #126

Fair enough! By the way, I have looked extensively at the polls and believe that Sen. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #131

Kind of you to say, thanks... all the best!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #146

No she wasn't abandoned. George II Oct 2019 #137

She's living on the streets, penniless apparently jberryhill Oct 2019 #143

So NOT funny what happened to Anita. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #147

It's been great for her career jberryhill Oct 2019 #149

And that has what to do with how badly she was treated redqueen Oct 2019 #155

It has everything to do with going after Biden jberryhill Oct 2019 #161

He could defuse it redqueen Oct 2019 #163

oh, nonsense jberryhill Oct 2019 #164

Biden owes women everywhere an explanation and an apology. redqueen Oct 2019 #170

"an ACTUAL apology, and not the ersatz apologies" jberryhill Oct 2019 #171

I give up. redqueen Oct 2019 #173

Women who go to work for Republicans aren't asking for it kcr Oct 2019 #156

What a ridiculous takeaway jberryhill Oct 2019 #160

Wow. Tipperary Oct 2019 #103

I have seen them...but not at the time...she did some things that made her look bad like offering Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #119

I actually cannot believe I just read this here. Tipperary Oct 2019 #121

In the 1980's it would...if it was so horrible than why put yourself in a position to be alone Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #132

Yeah, and women who get raped better hope they were not Tipperary Oct 2019 #182

Right? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #172

I almost can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading about this. redqueen Oct 2019 #175

Wow nt redqueen Oct 2019 #118

It was what forty years ago? And never not once has she ever called out a Republican for it...Bush Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #123

It was 1991 ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #145

Ahhh, the early 90s. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #174

This - DURHAM D Oct 2019 #2

Everytime I have seen him talk about it loyalsister Oct 2019 #82

I love Hill; I admire Hill; I respect Hill; I believed her then and I believe her now but... hlthe2b Oct 2019 #3

You are assuming Biden is the only way to remove rump Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #15

NO, I am not. I, rather assume the damage to be spread over the entire field by RWers and it will. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #20

That is a deflection Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #31

No... ... You are wrong. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #33

Hard to argue with that logic Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #36

Like Warren's Franken Railroad Bagage? LakeArenal Oct 2019 #38

Isn't that bothsiderism? Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #43

Oh sure. Everyone has baggage LakeArenal Oct 2019 #46

As has been said... everyone has baggage. revmclaren Oct 2019 #70

I get it... it's bad form to hold all candidates to the same standards. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #169

Exactly, Joe's moderate incrementalism is not the only way! Indeed, Bernie has shown us a better way InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #52

Yes, but what baggage do those other candidates carry? TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #56

this post is definitely going to crush Biden EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #78

Not true...they have their own baggage and certain policy ideas from your candidate MFA most Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #95

So what you're saying is you support her until it gets inconvenient for you melman Oct 2019 #29

No.. that is absolute bullshit. MELMAN hlthe2b Oct 2019 #32

SHE'S THE ONE "MOVING ON" LakeArenal Oct 2019 #39

I stand with Anita. Joe should at least properly apologize to her... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #53

What constitutes a "proper" apology to you? TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #58

Fair enough, but then no one should be calling to silence Anita. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #62

I've been in the position where I've had to apologize for some of my actions TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #89

Fair point, though, if I recall, Joe's "apology" fell a bit flat. Will have to look at it again. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #92

Don't bother. TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #96

Ding Ding Ding Ding jberryhill Oct 2019 #165

He did, MORE than once. What are you looking for, specifically? George II Oct 2019 #136

But he has never had this good a shot as a candidate jberryhill Oct 2019 #102

These are the things that help Biden in a major way. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #4

Is Hill campaigning against Clarence Thomas? crazytown Oct 2019 #5

No, she's more like him than not jberryhill Oct 2019 #106

She was at Oral Roberts for less than 3 years. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #110

Yeah right. Michele Bachmann's alma mater jberryhill Oct 2019 #130

She graduated from Yale law school. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #138

Michelle Bachmann did not graduate from Yale jberryhill Oct 2019 #139

threat? evertonfc Oct 2019 #6

OK. That's fair stopdiggin Oct 2019 #7

No he has not. nt DURHAM D Oct 2019 #9

to your satisfaction (and that's fine) stopdiggin Oct 2019 #11

He obviously hasn't to Anita Hill Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #17

We know we know. Anita is still pissed LakeArenal Oct 2019 #21

We know Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #25

You are putting words in people's mouths. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #27

Really? Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #40

Geez. Moved on. Done with this thread LakeArenal Oct 2019 #44

Thanks for proving my point Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #45

Haha haha. You have it all in your head. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #48

Hate to butt in here, but he chaired the hearings, did he not? redqueen Oct 2019 #30

Those are not unilateral decisions by Joe. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #35

I haven't seen any claim that someone else made that decision. redqueen Oct 2019 #49

It was absolutely 100% Biden's choice not to call DURHAM D Oct 2019 #111

And it was absolutely 100% Biden's information... jberryhill Oct 2019 #167

Yes, the refusal to allow corroborating witnesses to testify was on Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #122

Yes, Anita is still pissed... as she has every right to be. #MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #69

Me too??? Joe Biden did NOT sexually harass Anita Hill, CLARENCE Pathwalker Oct 2019 #151

Not at all... but even Joe admits Anita got a raw deal and was deserving of more support. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #153

You must not recall that Biden's questions were so bad redqueen Oct 2019 #154

Nope her opinion ain't more important than mine Loki Liesmith Oct 2019 #88

Wow!! Why so harsh?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #152

Out of curiosity. What does Anita Hill have to acknowledge? Autumn Oct 2019 #47

"I'm sorry I wasn't able to do more" is not an apology StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #125

That's kinda how I see it. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #148

The wheels of justice turn slowly. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #8

He should have apologized right out of the gate. cwydro Oct 2019 #10

Exactly n/t Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #19

He never does melman Oct 2019 #26

I know, and I hate that because I really like him. cwydro Oct 2019 #84

Don't get why Joe always does that, given the depth of his political experience. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #150

That was my impression too... I think Joe made a political mistake on that one. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #99

I still have issues with what he did and didn't do. gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #12

#MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #54

Booooooring BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #14

I am sooooo over this. Won't work. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #16

So you are telling her "Get over it" Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #22

No one is telling her to get over it. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #24

It's "trotted out" for good reasons Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #41

Or. Could be that Anita is keeping it alive. Again and again. (nt) stopdiggin Oct 2019 #158

Could be she has very good reasons for talking about it Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #179

All fair points. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #100

Next we hear the too old carp. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #23

she has been milking it for years. And folks should go back an read some of her testimony...all I Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #94

Yawn Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #28

Me too -- yawns are contagious! nt BlueMississippi Oct 2019 #42

Is she ready to admit she's a REPUBLICAN yet? Pathwalker Oct 2019 #51

Fucking wow. /nt tonedevil Oct 2019 #57

Let's keep it classy. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #61

Calling Anita Hill... tonedevil Oct 2019 #63

Unreal... Anita should be praised for her contribution to the Democratic cause. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #86

Certain individuals appear to be intent on kneecapping our party's nominee... at all costs. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #59

Why now? dewsgirl Oct 2019 #55

What has Ms. Hill been up to all these years? empedocles Oct 2019 #60

She should air any and all remaining grievances now. ecstatic Oct 2019 #64

Anita Hill pamdb Oct 2019 #65

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #76

oh please don't. put yourself in her shoes for one second. there are better rebuttals than stfu Kurt V. Oct 2019 #81

Thank you for saying what I wanted to say. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2019 #183

This could be a positive opportunity for Biden. Aaron Pereira Oct 2019 #74

Anita Hill ready to help with trump's re-election calguy Oct 2019 #75

yawn EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #77

these posts have a significant backfire effect EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #79

It makes them look desperate beating this dead horse again and again...a big who cares. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #97

Yet she seems unwilling to hold Clarence Thomas accountable. Pathwalker Oct 2019 #87

Is she still trying this shit...funny she never mentions the Republicans...who nominated Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #90

Oral Roberts University faculty jberryhill Oct 2019 #108

That makes me sick. You can't be a Christian and support Trump or even Republicans...everything they Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #114

I was unaware she taught there...now your post makes sense...wow. Now I really don't Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #134

She left private practice to work in the Bush administration jberryhill Oct 2019 #142

Another $50 for Joe Dream Girl Oct 2019 #101

+1 EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #104

Me too. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #135

The Anita Hill situation happened in 1991. IluvPitties Oct 2019 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Oct 2019 #113

Who cares? Doodley Oct 2019 #107

Like clockwork. Biden has some good polls, let's revisit this still_one Oct 2019 #109

Bring it on Anita Hill CountAllVotes Oct 2019 #112

This again? "I'm ready to move on, but....." George II Oct 2019 #116

This is BS Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #127

you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #128

Anita Hill already said she will vote for Biden, so this topic is settled. gulliver Oct 2019 #129

Your OTT posts really aren't helping Senator Warren emulatorloo Oct 2019 #133

Like all the gross posts smearing Anita Hill by some Biden supporters kcr Oct 2019 #157

Some people suck. herding cats Oct 2019 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #181

You're charming. herding cats Oct 2019 #184

I went back and re-read it and apologize Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #185

It's all good. herding cats Oct 2019 #186

Agreed on attacks on Hill. This thread is flame-bait. emulatorloo Oct 2019 #166

Wrong on several points Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #180

who? n/t PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #144

Bit late in the game for that, isn't it?? Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #162

Well must be getting shallow, as we're now simply rebooting that which has been examined LanternWaste Oct 2019 #168

I sincerely don't get why some are getting so emotional about this. redqueen Oct 2019 #176

Fanboyism coupled with fear. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #177

Biden has been around for a while and isn't perfect, but who is? Joe941 Oct 2019 #178