Democratic Primaries

Voltaire2

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36. there are many varieties of socialism.

Mon Oct 28, 2019, 04:32 PM

Oct 2019

in modern democracies, social democratic reform parties advocate policies like universal healthcare, universal education, universal old age pensions, and regulation of markets.

Many of the modern social democratic reform parties refer to themselves as 'democratic socialists'. You can be pedantic and claim that a universal old age pension system is not a socialist policy, I don't know why you find that to be important, unless you have some irrational aversion to the word 'social'. Odd that our universal old age pensions system is called 'social security' though, huh?

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Maybe we are swinging too far left, if Biden, Buttigieg Harris and Klobuchar are considered [View all] Peacetrain Oct 2019 OP

I would add Warren to this list. beastie boy Oct 2019 #1

The current Resident of the White House has dismantled so many protections Peacetrain Oct 2019 #2

I would add Sanders to the list. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #5

I'm not talking about right wing talking points... I am talking about chatter right here in the DU Peacetrain Oct 2019 #7

The thing about talking points is they propagate all over the place. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #18

I don't think we're moving too far left. Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #3

I looked up the definitions once of liberal Peacetrain Oct 2019 #4

Very good definition. Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #6

That is basically the reason I never embraced the term Peacetrain Oct 2019 #8

For me it depends on the day. Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #9

Sounds like a plan to me!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #10

Progressive and liberal aren't the same. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #37

Ask yourself what do conservatives ( Republicans)stand for Kaiserguy Oct 2019 #13

Compared to the knuckle dragging neanderthals that the Repugnants have in office every single cstanleytech Oct 2019 #14

Yup. Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #17

I'd actuallly swap the two terms - Liberal and Progressive dansolo Oct 2019 #42

If you hate Socialism ritapria Oct 2019 #11

Here you go.. the complete op with title.. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #12

You don't HAVE to use Social Security, medicare, public education and the military question everything Oct 2019 #15

It's a Reagan-era framing Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #16

But if this what many voters accept - like it or not question everything Oct 2019 #20

hardly anybody likes their insurance company. That is just nonsense. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #19

And how do you pay for all this pie in the sky plans? question everything Oct 2019 #22

It's great, just bop from one talking point to the next. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #24

What talking points? Can you argue logically? question everything Oct 2019 #29

If I were to demand my opponent "argue logically"... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #44

Those goalposts are on wheels Lordquinton Oct 2019 #40

Social security is not socialism Progressive dog Oct 2019 #21

Social security is a socialist program. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #25

Not according to the dictionary definition Progressive dog Oct 2019 #30

there are many varieties of socialism. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #36

No, social is in the dictionary, too. Progressive dog Oct 2019 #46

I'd pretend to infer hate from the OP as well. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #32

if anything we need more socialism in the USA! Joe941 Oct 2019 #34

I want to know who the people are that are calling our candidates "moderate" or "centrist". abqtommy Oct 2019 #23

I think candidates do that themselves loyalsister Oct 2019 #26

Hang out here another 30 minutes or so. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #38

no moderates are supporting your view. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #27

Hello! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #28

The designation between what's considered 'moderate' / 'establishment' vs 'liberal' / 'progressive' redqueen Oct 2019 #31

I agree Gothmog Oct 2019 #33

Red pill or blue pill Amimnoch Oct 2019 #35

Who supports Medicare for All and who doesn't: who's a liberal and who's a moderate. nt Anders8 Oct 2019 #39

This myth is created by people from outside the Democratic party. So called "Indies" & "Greens"... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #41

Biden has always been a center/moderate on economic policy. crazytown Oct 2019 #43

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #45

Florida Democrats want a moderate. Gothmog Oct 2019 #47