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13. I heard all of these arguments in 2016. The polls were right in 2016

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 10:01 AM

Nov 2019

but Trump won the EC. Joe Biden is great but he is very prone to gaffs, you never know what he may say. Trump gets a pass on whatever he says but the media is ready to pounce on Biden if he makes the least little mistake. The media will question Biden's age but never once mention Trump is damn near as old. If we had a good younger candidate like Bill Clinton or Obama was we would win in a landslide. But it is what it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I've changed back to undecided [View all] Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 OP

I don't need exciting. Cary Nov 2019 #1

I worry that boring will not get out the vote Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #2

That is beyond my abilities Cary Nov 2019 #3

If the last 3 years cannot make kozar Nov 2019 #5

I agree, koz peggysue2 Nov 2019 #16

If the prospect of four more years of Trump doesn't get out the vote, nothing will LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #20

The average person does not follow or understand what is at stake like you do. Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #21

If true, then we are doomed, regardless. But I don't agree. LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #22

I believe average Democrats and Dem leaning Indy's want Trump gone. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #51

against maggot? MFM008 Nov 2019 #30

The bowl of warm piss would have better judgement Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #32

exactly MFM008 Nov 2019 #36

Let's see. Biden or drumpf? democratisphere Nov 2019 #54

None of us "need exciting" Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #53

Constant defense JoeDuck Nov 2019 #4

I have too. I like Biden but the only time Democrats win is when we have doc03 Nov 2019 #6

He can't win with an approval rating Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #8

I heard all of these arguments in 2016. The polls were right in 2016 doc03 Nov 2019 #13

That's my concern as well Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #11

I assume you are from Ohio too. Democrats seem to have written Ohio off as a lost doc03 Nov 2019 #14

I'm from Ohio but now live in Michigan Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #15

I don't know if Ohio has changed so much doc03 Nov 2019 #23

People who say that Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #24

You are absolutely right but it is doc03 Nov 2019 #26

I am trapped in undecided Lulu KC Nov 2019 #9

I agree that Klobuchar has dissapeared Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #12

She hasn't really disappeared. I don't see stories about her fund raising problems. LAS14 Nov 2019 #44

I hear ya. cwydro Nov 2019 #10

I think no one should have "excited" as a significant criterion. Hortensis Nov 2019 #17

Ideas excite me. Someone's potential can excite me. Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #18

There are no new ideas around today, only rehashed. Hortensis Nov 2019 #19

You're making my argument for me Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #31

Look at the pattern! [i]Telling people candidates are boring Hortensis Nov 2019 #35

I must be the only person that was excited about Al Gore. MoonchildCA Nov 2019 #60

Not quite, there were others. :) But could I be the only who Hortensis Nov 2019 #70

I hear Democrats fall in love doc03 Nov 2019 #25

agree evertonfc Nov 2019 #27

I think people misunderstand exciting Midnightwalk Nov 2019 #29

I think Mayor Pete has a lot of positives Lexblues Nov 2019 #33

He's going to be eaten alive by the conservative operatives. RLG Nov 2019 #38

I'm not excited about anyone. RLG Nov 2019 #34

It'll be some old folks and the mayor dalton99a Nov 2019 #37

The mayor who received over 8,000 votes in his last election. RLG Nov 2019 #39

With a dismal race relations record that was swept under the rug. dalton99a Nov 2019 #40

Don't stop there. RLG Nov 2019 #41

It is arrogant to assume that African-Americans don't pay attention to such things. dalton99a Nov 2019 #42

you have been coming on so many threads and slagging off Buttiegieg with the same tosh since Celerity Nov 2019 #50

Honey, I'm small potatoes compared to what conservative operatives will do to him. RLG Nov 2019 #61

Lol, I AM part black, and we are NOT monolithic ffs, that is such a whitesplaining (whether you Celerity Nov 2019 #64

I am 100 percent African American RLG Nov 2019 #65

Lol, laughable in the extreme, you do not represent every black voter yet you Celerity Nov 2019 #66

How many black voters have you spoken to? RLG Nov 2019 #71

dozens, starting with myself, my family and my relatives Celerity Nov 2019 #72

I have spoken to an equal amount. RLG Nov 2019 #73

What about Klobuchar? She's my backup candidate. nt LAS14 Nov 2019 #43

Listened to her interview on NPR and also on daily show the last few days dsp3000 Nov 2019 #46

Pete and Amy are my ideal president and veep. Either way around n/t pink Nov 2019 #47

I like her a lot. She's tough and smart and knows how to win in the Rust Belt redstateblues Nov 2019 #56

The really great thing about this election cycle is that we'll be OK... LAS14 Nov 2019 #45

Pete living in Indiana could be good for us. yardwork Nov 2019 #48

Biden reaps $5.3M online donation surge amid Trump attacks Cha Nov 2019 #49

Thanks, Cha. So much for not handling Trump's attacks well. And he has consistently proved to emmaverybo Nov 2019 #52

Yeah, emmaverybo.. the ".. not handling the Cha Nov 2019 #58

Joe is the only Dem running against Trump redstateblues Nov 2019 #57

I hadn't read that but she did say.. Cha Nov 2019 #59

Interesting jcgoldie Nov 2019 #74

Frankly I think that is a prudent decision, though perhaps for different reasons. From my still_one Nov 2019 #55

Who are some of the candidates that you think could move up? Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #62

Mayor Pete, Harris, perhaps Klobuchar, Booker maybe, and of course the top 3 tier Biden, Warren, still_one Nov 2019 #63

I like Pete. I think he has a future in politics if he decides to stick with it. Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #67

We will see in a few months still_one Nov 2019 #68

Ensuring Trump is NOT re-elected is the only excitement I need. SKKY Nov 2019 #69