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BlueMTexpat

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82. Krugman - and I love him -

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 05:20 AM

Nov 2019

is an economist and and academic.

He is not an expert in finance, financial transactions and the law, nor has he had real-world experience in the nitty-girtty details of any.

Elizabeth Warren both is and has.

Remember that SHE - not Krugman nor any Dem candidate currently running - created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau literally from scratch. She also created it despite strong pushback from some Dems.

If you're hanging your hat on Krugman's comments, please also remember that he has allowed for movement in her position (she is pragmatic after all) and the costs and revenues of ANY "plan's optimism" could be wrong.

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It seems that there are some who will NEVER be pleased by anything that Elizabeth Warren proposes. Like Hillary, she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Warren Derides Biden as Running in 'Wrong Presidential Primary' [View all] brooklynite Nov 2019 OP

You'd think after Klobuchar swatted down that silly defense from Warren that she would have highplainsdem Nov 2019 #1

Why don't you post something positive BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #83

Elizabeth is putting on the Gloves ritapria Nov 2019 #2

Attacking Biden because she can't refute what he said...and funny that she says Biden is running in Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #69

it looks... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #114

I think Warren needs to read Krugman's comments peggysue2 Nov 2019 #3

Krugman - and I love him - BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #82

I have little doubt that the calculations on costs and revenues on all these proposals peggysue2 Nov 2019 #90

I absolutely concur with BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #98

Absolutely agree, BlueMTexpat peggysue2 Nov 2019 #99

Is Warren going to tell Nancy Pelosi she shouldn't be in the Democratic Pzrty? highplainsdem Nov 2019 #4

I'd like to see her try! peggysue2 Nov 2019 #16

That's ridiculous. I'm trying to decide between Warren, Buttigieg, Biden. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #5

Response to Biden campaign targeting her as being deceitful blm Nov 2019 #9

Sorry, that's no excuse for calling him a Republican emulatorloo Nov 2019 #12

She's getting dragged on twitter. nt Kahuna7 Nov 2019 #20

Umm.. boomer_wv Nov 2019 #25

Don't worry. That point has been made. Several times. nt Kahuna7 Nov 2019 #28

Good one! n/t customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #67

Ironic how you falsely insuinate that Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #50

Quote: "accusing him of "running in the wrong presidential primary." emulatorloo Nov 2019 #62

That is an obnoxious, unfounded attack on Biden. I'd like to see their records side by side. George II Nov 2019 #6

And it's coming from someone who stayed a registered Republican for decades, as an adult, highplainsdem Nov 2019 #8

I didn't Rebl2 Nov 2019 #18

Here: highplainsdem Nov 2019 #29

Are you saying she has the experience to know one when she sees one? LonePirate Nov 2019 #32

Do you really want to compare records? Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #51

Biden gave us the Violence against women act...Biden helped get a ban on assault weapons...biden was Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #70

Warren has zero cred in social justice causes. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #78

Was it in response to Biden campaign accusing her of being blm Nov 2019 #10

Doesn't matter. No Democrat should call (or imply) that someone with Biden's record as a Democrat... George II Nov 2019 #14

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #17

Wow -- calling Warren a "never democrat" is appalling of you obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #21

+1 nt backtoblue Nov 2019 #23

That is the key. There are a lot of responses she could have fired back at Biden, but effectively still_one Nov 2019 #22

Facts. She did not say he was a republican. She said using Republican talking points. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #24

She said he was in the wrong presidential primary. There are only two parties with primaries. George II Nov 2019 #37

And his campaign did use a GOP talking point blm Nov 2019 #41

Wasnt the first time either backtoblue Nov 2019 #48

I feel the same way about Joe Manchin, but that doesn't mean I am saying he is a Rupublican. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #43

I'll take Biden's Democratic credentials over Warren's every day of the week. He was elected... George II Nov 2019 #45

+100000 emmaverybo Nov 2019 #46

I'll take any of them over Trump. vsrazdem Nov 2019 #54

Indeed. +1 emulatorloo Nov 2019 #63

Oh spare us the sanctimony BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #42

Exactly. JudyM Nov 2019 #100

I'll put it this way: While he spent decades fighting for human rights, she was on the opposite side Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #95

Reality isn't a Republican talking point. Scurrilous Nov 2019 #7

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Nov 2019 #15

The Military Industrial Complex is not full of big-spending gov.programs? YOHABLO Nov 2019 #11

Nothing is free. Medicare isn't free either. peggysue2 Nov 2019 #26

No pretending here. I'm on Medicare and have been since 2008. So don't bark at me. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #73

so Joe is now running as a republican? thanks liz I didnt know that nt msongs Nov 2019 #13

Bad move Warren comparing him to republicans. still_one Nov 2019 #19

This is a campaign for the POTUS, if there's a comparison to be made, go for it. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #74

Even if it is a LIE. OK, got it still_one Nov 2019 #77

It was a lie when he accused her of being a con like Trump blm Nov 2019 #80

I don't recall him of accusing Warren of being like Trump, but if he did he was wrong. What I still_one Nov 2019 #85

Same here, I had no intention of criticizing any D candidate. blm Nov 2019 #86

I hear you, understand, and agree still_one Nov 2019 #87

Thanks, old bud. blm Nov 2019 #101

++++++++ still_one Nov 2019 #109

I hate her 'my way or the highway' approach to everything Lexblues Nov 2019 #27

I don't like it either...but in this case she only hurt herself...anyone who is a Democrat knows Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #71

Warren is in the wrong primary too. boomer_wv Nov 2019 #30

LOL Scurrilous Nov 2019 #44

Oh, Elizabeth. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #31

So any critique or questioning of this plan Docreed2003 Nov 2019 #33

Third time she has accused a Dem critic of using Republican talking points against her. Much rather emmaverybo Nov 2019 #34

I hate the term "republican talking points". Always Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #89

It's not just listening to moderate voters peggysue2 Nov 2019 #35

Wasn't Warren an actual republican at one point? Renew Deal Nov 2019 #36

She became a Democrat at the age of 47 ritapria Nov 2019 #38

Response from Biden's campaign manager: highplainsdem Nov 2019 #39

Oooops! She opened Cha Nov 2019 #61

That's a singularly bad approach on her part. MineralMan Nov 2019 #91

I love M4A and breaking up behemoth corporations and... at140 Nov 2019 #40

Joe has said similar of Warren... backtoblue Nov 2019 #47

Here's what I don't get. Obviously, Warren is a brilliant Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #88

Jesus. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #49

this sux. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #52

I agree backtoblue Nov 2019 #53

if warren or biden get the nom trump campaign will jump all over this. ugh. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #55

I'm with Joe and Pete Catamount Nov 2019 #56

What is " Medicare health"? I like that you mention Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #113

The more Warren makes divisive attacks like this Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #57

I've been there for a long time and she's my Senator Green Line Nov 2019 #58

I don't have a problem with her policies Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #60

BTW - She was gracious towards Biden when he mistakenly blm Nov 2019 #66

IOKIYJB n/t MarcA Nov 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author YOHABLO Nov 2019 #75

She should shut up when she's being called a con, or that she's deceitful blm Nov 2019 #65

So the majority of Democrats who prefer Biden's plan to hers are in the wrong party too? maximusveritas Nov 2019 #59

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #64

After Watergate, Joe Biden campaigned for Jimmy Carter. Elizabeth Warren voted for Gerald Ford. Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #68

Indeed. She should not have said what she did... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #72

Good point! Baked Potato Nov 2019 #103

I strongly disagree with this claim by Warren Gothmog Nov 2019 #76

What did the former republican say? nini Nov 2019 #81

I'm not for M4A OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #84

Funny, when I saw this I thought she meant wrong as in 4 years too late for last run, past his prime Baclava Nov 2019 #92

She would be the last one referring to someone else as "past ones prime". Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #93

She is infinitely closer to her prime... tonedevil Nov 2019 #102

Infinitely? Ridiculous. She is an elderly lady. She is old. So are Biden and Sanders. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #104

She is six years younger... tonedevil Nov 2019 #105

She is by most social measures an elderly lady. In fact, medically so considered. Elderly can be emmaverybo Nov 2019 #107

Can't say she isn't old... tonedevil Nov 2019 #108

😂 LOL emmaverybo Nov 2019 #110

Well said Senator. jalan48 Nov 2019 #94

Do you think Biden should be running in the republican primary? George II Nov 2019 #96

I don't believe he can run in both. jalan48 Nov 2019 #97

I'd ask all the Democrats who have endorsed him. He's one of the most respected and liked emmaverybo Nov 2019 #106

And let it be noted that she has hardly any endorsements, which reflects how she is received by the Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #111

Supporting the Obamacare does not make you a republican Gothmog Nov 2019 #112

Biden defends record after Warren attacks: I'm a 'card-carrying Democrat' Gothmog Nov 2019 #115