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The Velveteen Ocelot

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4. I like Warren a lot, but I don't get why she (and Bernie, too) are proposing plans

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:56 AM

Nov 2019

that haven't a snowball's chance in Hell of getting through Congress. And because they are Senators and not clueless but well-meaning business people with no government experience, they know this. Even if the Dems were to take the Senate it wouldn't happen. Just getting ACA passed was a long, uphill battle and it's still being fought over. It makes no sense to me that candidates would promise something they know they can't deliver, even if people wanted it, which apparently a lot of them don't. I appreciate Warren's attitude of wanting to be bold and innovative, but if her plan is unpopular outside the progressive bubble she won't defeat Trump. I don't give a crap about anybody's health care plan; if Trump is re-elected we won't have the ACA and we won't have Medicare for All and we probably will end up with Medicare for Nobody. Defeating Trump should be the focus, not pie-in-the-sky programs that aren't going anywhere.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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This is one of only a handful of reasons why I support Biden over Warren [View all] beastie boy Nov 2019 OP

'Democrats in Disarray' crazytown Nov 2019 #1

How about DownriverDem Nov 2019 #14

We wertr not in disarray in 2018 tirebiter Nov 2019 #2

What? Elizabeth Warren has CRITICS?!?!?! I don't see them presenting their plans for abqtommy Nov 2019 #3

Warren's plan can only be effective with effective legislation. beastie boy Nov 2019 #6

The fundamental fact is that ANY effective plan needs effective legislative support. The coming abqtommy Nov 2019 #13

I like Warren a lot, but I don't get why she (and Bernie, too) are proposing plans The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #4

Brilliantly stated! As Senators, they know that this will never be passed. Disingenuous. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #5

They need to fix and improve the ACA! True Blue American Nov 2019 #11

They DownriverDem Nov 2019 #15

*Primary* votes. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #16

Just contributed again NBachers Nov 2019 #7

Blessings. WheelWalker Nov 2019 #28

LOL, Politico. Maven Nov 2019 #8

The $20 trillion figure is a red herring. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #9

The $20 trillion figure is a LIE dansolo Nov 2019 #20

The total cost of MFA is over $32 trillion Gothmog Nov 2019 #24

I love the M4A idea but I don't think we can start with that. CousinIT Nov 2019 #10

Agree! True Blue American Nov 2019 #12

Just leaving this response here... JudyM Nov 2019 #17

Hers is a great response. It's all about what we as a nation value and prioritize CousinIT Nov 2019 #18

Great article. Fixing the link to point right to it, below. JudyM Nov 2019 #19

Ah yes, the author of "A Liberal Case for Donald Trump". Great clip but I don't know why Bragman emulatorloo Nov 2019 #29

Excellent reasons, beastie! Cha Nov 2019 #21

Mahalo, Cha! beastie boy Nov 2019 #22

The perfect beautiful blue wave WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #25

You''re Welcome, WA-03.. Mahalo Cha Nov 2019 #30

I agree completely that Warren's health care plan will cause down-ballot damage. K&R! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #23

Pelosi made it clear Friday that M4A is not on the table madville Nov 2019 #26

Some say Warren and Sanders are promoting Medicare for all to get votes. brutus smith Nov 2019 #27

From Harry Reid Gothmog Nov 2019 #31

I 100% agree and have been saying the same. That's why the Dem "establishment" Kahuna7 Nov 2019 #32