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Hoyt

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53. The fastest and easiest way to fix that is more subsidies and a Public Option.

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:20 PM

Nov 2019

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If Public Option is anywhere near as good as we think, people will gravitate to it much quicker than Warren can implement, "Medicare Whether You Want It or Not."

Plus, I think MFA is a general election loser, putting us farther out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden: Insulting those who don't share same approach to reaching goals belongs in the other primary [View all] highplainsdem Nov 2019 OP

When Warren throws it expect push back. Frankly I was surprised by her comment FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #1

What was her exact comment? Can you quote it as said? blm Nov 2019 #26

Here it is beastie boy Nov 2019 #37

She said SHE is just not sure where he's going. Why did you blm Nov 2019 #69

I quoted Warren precisely. Didn't change one letter. beastie boy Nov 2019 #82

You wrote your viewpoint over cherrypicked words. blm Nov 2019 #83

So I no longer changed her words. Good. beastie boy Nov 2019 #84

One candidate wanted to primary Obama and another one is among those desperate to undo his signature Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #2

Well said, and I agree. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #16

Well stated Skya.. thx Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #20

Yeah, the heck with them.. I'll take President Obama Cha Nov 2019 #29

Thanks for saying this, Skya. Obama is a great man and was a great president. I am sticking emmaverybo Nov 2019 #42

Did you support Hilary? wnylib Nov 2019 #68

Hillary was a Goldwater girl is high school peggysue2 Nov 2019 #74

Hillary changed her political views wnylib Nov 2019 #88

Wtf Cailinrain Nov 2019 #79

This! A million times, this! She was on the other side during the Civil Rights fight but expect AA Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #80

Yes Hillary was politically active at wnylib Nov 2019 #89

Hillary was 17 years old OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #87

+ a million!!!! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #76

Warren was criticizing Obama -- and Clinton by association -- right up to 2016 election. Hoyt Nov 2019 #3

I don't have problems with candidates criticizing each other Hoyt within the party, but I wish all still_one Nov 2019 #17

I suggest criticizing Clinton running up to Nov 2016 helped elect you know who. Hoyt Nov 2019 #18

I understand. It sure didn't help, though I think it was Comey's interference, and the media's still_one Nov 2019 #22

You are correct the other stuff was the main reason. I won't criticize after it's clear who will Hoyt Nov 2019 #52

Hillary said that McCain was far more qualified to be Commander-in-Chief than Obama. She emmaverybo Nov 2019 #27

I agree. My point was simply that approach helps no one except the republicans. I don't think this still_one Nov 2019 #30

I agree. Calling out Biden and others in this way is no argument for M4All and really does not emmaverybo Nov 2019 #36

highplainsdem, thanks for this posting. Sloumeau Nov 2019 #4

This... a voice of sanity/reality...thank you Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #21

Neener neener!!! She said it first. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #5

I guess that we didn't read the same OP... Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #7

I read this one. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #9

Thanks for this highplainsdem. Reminds us that we all support the same goals despite emmaverybo Nov 2019 #6

Untrue statement by Joe Biden crazytown Nov 2019 #8

Oh come on, it is clear what was meant...she wants to ditch Obama Care and I am against this Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #12

And why didn't she defend her plan instead of attacking a former Vice President in the Obama Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #15

One has to wonder that. She has all these plans she wants to extol, seems an opportunity missed Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #23

She has...running on MFA is going to hurt her chances in the primary...and I believe we lose the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #25

Yup! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #32

She has over twenty. All very costly investments, financially and politically. So far she is emmaverybo Nov 2019 #44

Maybe she is still miffed at rhe way wnylib Nov 2019 #72

Thanks for setting the record straight. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #39

It's what she said right after what you quoted that makes the statement true. beastie boy Nov 2019 #45

Warren was answering a question about costs - crazytown Nov 2019 #49

Whether it is in response to a question or a stand alone statement, beastie boy Nov 2019 #54

Her statement was in response to the question I quoted. crazytown Nov 2019 #61

Good answer, He can't let her get away with this sort of thing. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #10

That's a great response from Biden! OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #11

And untrue. crazytown Nov 2019 #13

Very sad indeed... but, not unexpected. It tells you who's winning!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #40

Warren, Bernie, and Biden are in a statistical tie in a lot of polling I've seen n/t emulatorloo Nov 2019 #48

Joe is running against Trump. All the other Dems are running against Joe redstateblues Nov 2019 #14

That's about the sum of it peggysue2 Nov 2019 #19

Oh you bad!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #24

This spat is about the direction of the party as a whole. LonePirate Nov 2019 #28

I prefer real progress to pipe dreams. And Biden is more liberal than Hillary Clinton was: highplainsdem Nov 2019 #33

I prefer a party that can win and hold on to power. All Dems want change, but ya gotta win first Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #34

We can put a corpse on the ticket and still win in 2020 against 45. LonePirate Nov 2019 #47

Such complete and utter bullshit dansolo Nov 2019 #38

That still excludes health care for millions of America and very expensive for millions.more. LonePirate Nov 2019 #46

Insinuating that a fellow DU'er doesn't want affordable healthcare because you two have a policy emulatorloo Nov 2019 #50

The ACA is not afforable universal health care. Anybody pushing the ACA is against that. LonePirate Nov 2019 #51

The fastest and easiest way to fix that is more subsidies and a Public Option. Hoyt Nov 2019 #53

It doesn't help when Dems or DUers are pushing Republican and industry lies about MFA. LonePirate Nov 2019 #55

Got it, any policy discussion/difference in implementation is "A Republican Talking Point" emulatorloo Nov 2019 #57

Pushing a solution which does not guarantee affordable, universal health care is simply wrong. LonePirate Nov 2019 #60

So cram it down their throats, as being best for them, and see how quickly people will turn on Hoyt Nov 2019 #63

The choice is affordable health care or expensive health care. That choice is easy. LonePirate Nov 2019 #66

Fine, Sanders can tell voters it's her plan, like it or not. That won't get us far. Hoyt Nov 2019 #71

You have it backwards; public option is the fastest way for the HC system to collapse. MFA saves it! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #75

What Hoyt said. Insinuating your fellow DU'ers are 'bad people' because they have different emulatorloo Nov 2019 #56

Are you saying people against affordable, universal health care are good people? LonePirate Nov 2019 #59

Stop putting words in my mouth I didn't say. And mischaracterizing what I have said. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #62

So it's OK for you to say I am insinuating something but I can't say the same about you? LonePirate Nov 2019 #64

Your basic premise is false. You claimed I made an argument I didn't make. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #67

The latter (like Warren AND Bernie). InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #41

Trump is the status quo now. BTW there's nothing "centrist" about the public option emulatorloo Nov 2019 #43

Joe Biden has spent his life helping elect Democrats across the country and served with honor.. Cha Nov 2019 #31

You nailed Cha!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #35

Joe says Warren is "making it up" on MFA, she hits back and he whines BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #58

I was a fan of Elizabeth Warren until this! Tumbulu Nov 2019 #65

Try reading what she actually said and not the overwrought spin. blm Nov 2019 #70

THIS!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #73

Just thought I'd throw this in there as well, Biden's polling in Iowa is not looking good. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #77

South Carolina will decide who wins this Primary. Take that to the bank. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #81

Don't start none won't be none. /nt tonedevil Nov 2019 #78

Biden defends record after Warren attacks: I'm a 'card-carrying Democrat' Gothmog Nov 2019 #85

Pelosi cautions 2020 Dems over liberal proposals: 'You must win the Electoral College' Gothmog Nov 2019 #86

K&R Scurrilous Nov 2019 #90