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17. I agree that this is a significant problem...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 03:25 PM
Nov 2019

It should be given attention before the trend is in full gear, because the ramifications are going to be substantial.

Another point that comes to mind is the pay-scale leverage that automation will give corporations. When the trade-off is they can either pay employees more or invest in automation that only requires a one-time amount plus operating costs and maintenance, what happens to the already flat-lined pay rates we see? Obviously, the cost of automation will go down over time and the capacity to replace human skills and labor will increase dramatically.

So, that does leave us with a big whole in the circle at some point. Since the consumer is an important part of the cycle, how can providers of services and producers of goods rely on only a smaller percentage of people to support their business?

I see a major impact to our ideas about capitalism and economies brewing here, and it is not a replay of the previous, tectonic shifts we saw with the industrial and information revolutions so far. Not only will the jobs that "replace" the old ones be more technological and specific, (they will not be accessible to all potential labor) there will be less of them. Oh, and mean less and less of them because it does not stop at mere production of goods, etc., it refines itself, eventually as machines repairing themselves or other machines, and onward.

I think everyone knows that this is not just a matter of putting parts together or robots that make fast food, right? The growth of weak AI and the potential of strong AI takes this right up the income chain into white collar professions and services, too. So, it is not just about who's career will be immune, but also for how long.

This is a MAJOR issue and it is going to accelerate dramatically within a short period of time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Yang is correct about the danger of automation and AI andym Nov 2019 #1
I believe it will arrive much sooner than Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #2
What does he propose to do about it? brooklynite Nov 2019 #7
It's not intended to be a replacement for income redqueen Nov 2019 #8
what does he propose to do about it (repeat until answered) nt msongs Nov 2019 #10
To do about what? redqueen Nov 2019 #13
HUMAN-CENTERED CAPITALISM Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #18
The Economic Proposes Policies from his web page. Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #19
Self-driving cars/trucks are still a few years out technologically speaking, Miguelito Loveless Nov 2019 #3
Yang talks about retraining. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2019 #4
This will be allowed until the first, inevitable accident Miguelito Loveless Nov 2019 #16
Interesting topic. Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #5
When you look at the increased revenues created by automation redqueen Nov 2019 #14
At this date, Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #15
It always creates other jobs at the same time treestar Nov 2019 #6
It's true that other jobs are created, but the quantity is fewer redqueen Nov 2019 #11
The self driving truck has to be programmed treestar Nov 2019 #22
No, programmers only need drivers long enough to teach the system. redqueen Nov 2019 #23
The progress is going to happen though treestar Nov 2019 #24
This is exactly why I would never vote for Yang. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #9
How does he want to suffocate innovation and change? nt redqueen Nov 2019 #12
Explain how he is suffocating any innovation? Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #20
I agree that this is a significant problem... Newest Reality Nov 2019 #17
John Nichols and Robert McChesney wrote a book about the impact of automation dgauss Nov 2019 #21
Luxury Communism now ck4829 Nov 2019 #25
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