Democratic Primaries

melman

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119. He did

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:21 PM

Nov 2019

"The other day I was accused by one of my opponents of running in the wrong primary. Pretty amazing. On one level, it is kind of funny.

I have fought for the Democratic party my whole career. I know what we stand for, who we stand with and what we believe. And it’s not just policies or issues. It’s in my bones. That’s not something everyone in this primary can say.

But at another level these kinds of attacks are a serious problem. They reflect an angry unyielding viewpoint that has crept into our politics. If someone doesn’t agree with you — it’s not just that you disagree — that person must be a coward or corrupt or a small thinker.

Some call it the “my way or the highway” approach to politics. But it’s worse than that. It’s condescending to the millions of Democrats who have a different view.

It’s representative of an elitism that working and middle class people do not share: “We know best; you know nothing”. “If you were only as smart as I am you would agree with me.”"

https://medium.com/@JoeBiden/i-have-fought-for-the-democratic-party-my-whole-career-2ca4a2dac271

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Biden rips 'condescending' Democrats ... [View all] left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 OP

I guess he's getting a bit nervous lol. cwydro Nov 2019 #1

Joe's nervous to say the least... it's understandable!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #7

Yes melman Nov 2019 #23

I agree. cwydro Nov 2019 #31

Let's hope EW does not respond treestar Nov 2019 #58

Sure there was, from her perspective. He's the front-runner, but he trails the combined KPN Nov 2019 #69

They are not running with, but against each other. You can add up any candidate pairs, trios, or emmaverybo Nov 2019 #117

Well, I agree that she should not respond, and I hear what you're saying. cwydro Nov 2019 #75

Pardon me, but what? TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #129

Well post 1 implies at least treestar Nov 2019 #141

LOL! Joe nervous? TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #128

I'd imagine they're all nervous. cwydro Nov 2019 #145

Making another dig again? TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #149

Huh? cwydro Nov 2019 #151

You're slyly referring to Beto O'Rourke quitting the presidential race without mentioning his name. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #152

Oh, well, ok. cwydro Nov 2019 #153

So you haven't seen the candidate groups listed on the front page of DU TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #154

Never served in any candidate or primary groups, sorry. cwydro Nov 2019 #155

Okay, I guess that I will have to take your word that you were naive about so many things happening TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #156

Oh that's rich. HerbChestnut Nov 2019 #2

Seriously!! Talk about irony!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #8

Obama said this in a more gentle manner but still he said it. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #20

Indeed. Nancy has also offered some advice, or more accurately warning. M4All or bust, huh? emmaverybo Nov 2019 #121

Showing lack of confidence in your own party's decision making is weak. Magoo48 Nov 2019 #54

It's what center Purists do. MarcA Nov 2019 #118

Joe "give me a break" Biden TCJ70 Nov 2019 #3

A minute? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #10

I'm very leery of words like: LakeArenal Nov 2019 #4

Yup, but of course the Biden bashers are all too willing to believe the hyperbole still_one Nov 2019 #9

Did he direct any of his remarks at fellow Democrats? Magoo48 Nov 2019 #59

Listening to what he said on the news this morning it seemed to me he was attacking other Dems. JudyM Nov 2019 #32

Sanders and Warren have been attacking Biden. So I am not surprised Biden's pushing back. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #34

Yeah but using/validating a key rethug talking point? That's very different, and very detrimental JudyM Nov 2019 #39

Warren insinuated recently that Biden should be running as a Republican emulatorloo Nov 2019 #42

Those statements aren't going to be echoed in republican ads as reinforcing their talking points. JudyM Nov 2019 #49

Trump will portray Biden as a evil socialist/communist emulatorloo Nov 2019 #53

Not sure what you mean... did another candidate say that about Biden? JudyM Nov 2019 #56

RNC will frame any Dem candidate as a socialist. That's their playbook emulatorloo Nov 2019 #61

Ok. This is a different situation: Biden just handed them a video clip for an attack ad. JudyM Nov 2019 #62

It doesn't fit the RNC narrative though. So I personally don't see them using it. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #70

Yes it does melman Nov 2019 #78

Sad to me that it seems like Biden is intentionally using their talking point to attack her. JudyM Nov 2019 #147

Biden sure did!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #109

Warren shouldn't attack Biden then...can't have your cake and eat it too. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Nov 2019 #148

I went to Fox to see how their suffering was progressing after the big loss for Trump last night... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #82

That's a different issue. The issue here is the use of the term "elitist." JudyM Nov 2019 #102

Warren said Joe was running in the wrong primary...she should expect push back. And M4A is Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #124

Biden warned on Oct16 that Warren is conning like Trump blm Nov 2019 #111

All three front runners are throwing punches. I don't like it, but it isn't surprising me emulatorloo Nov 2019 #123

Yeah clickbait headlines are bad. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #47

Joe's... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #5

Umm.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #14

lol. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #107

Yet another (supposedly) Biden supporter newbie MarcA Nov 2019 #120

Calling someone "elitist" sounds Republican to me. JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #6

So much for the pledge!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #11

Sanders and Warren have been attacking Biden. So of course he will push back. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #17

It sure as hell does melman Nov 2019 #18

So I guess you agree with Warren that Biden should be running in the republican primary. George II Nov 2019 #28

Do you? melman Nov 2019 #48

Sorry..... George II Nov 2019 #79

Do you? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #89

No melman Nov 2019 #94

That's how you know you're winning the argument!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #104

When one is posed perhaps a serious answer would be forthcoming..... George II Nov 2019 #101

Hearing that term from him on the news this morning was like a punch in the gut. JudyM Nov 2019 #33

I felt the same this morning. We did not need that on the day we should be celebrating instead. JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #41

Exactly! It deflated the joy, at least for me. JudyM Nov 2019 #45

"Punch in the gut" is right!! Guess if you're Joe, desperate times call for desperate measures. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #97

Sounds almost as Republican as blaming the media for a candidate's poor performance. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #63

That word has been used on Democrats like Biden for years from certain camps. This from 2015... George II Nov 2019 #81

Calling a Democrat a Republican sounds like a cheap shot to me mcar Nov 2019 #87

Agreed! Who is more elisitst than Rs? Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #108

What's Condescening.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #12

It is a show of strength...he is fining his voice...and Warren started it by accusing him Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #26

Pretty obvious... but, had to be expected once Joe started losing his mo'. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #91

Biden noting that some of the EW/BS supporters are unwilling to recognize empedocles Nov 2019 #13

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Nov 2019 #15

Condescending Democrats? BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #16

Sadly nowhere in that article is the word "condescending" or a variation of it anywhere.... George II Nov 2019 #19

Attacking other Dems or the Dem voting base is not a path to victory. LonePirate Nov 2019 #21

Did you say that when Warren attacked Biden last week? George II Nov 2019 #25

I agree and Some other candidates should stop suggesting that if you are not for M4A Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #30

You got that right! Last debate, Warren did not field challenges well from other candidates or emmaverybo Nov 2019 #80

They will use the M4A as a means to take down the ACA...and we will have nothing and to take down Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #83

Biden has said he will protect and build on Obamacare and work against Republican efforts to emmaverybo Nov 2019 #95

This is why he must be the nominee... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #135

Pretending your candidate is innocent of the same action is not a path either. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #65

I freely admit Warren should not have said that. Where's your disapproval of these Biden remarks? LonePirate Nov 2019 #74

Cue the crickets... chirp... chirp... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #112

Not a good look for Joe...he should stick to the issues InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #98

I So LOve It When Dems Kick Other DEms Me. Nov 2019 #22

Yes, esply in front of "deep-pocketed Democratic donors, politicians and real estate executives," InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #99

Frankly I am disappointed in both Warren and Biden on these comments Raven123 Nov 2019 #24

Is this Democrat bashing? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #27

Is this? emulatorloo Nov 2019 #35

Not when you read everything he said, no. n/t whathehell Nov 2019 #37

Appreciate the reply n/t emulatorloo Nov 2019 #40

Is this whataboutism? Yes. Yes it is. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #51

Nah, it's proof that the top three candidates are throwing punches at each other. emulatorloo Nov 2019 #55

I'd pretend holding your own to a lower standard is "whataboutism" as well. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Nov 2019 #38

This is troubling for Bernie. Disqualifying. I'm concerned. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #67

Sure sounds like it HBS. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #90

If courageous leadership promoting substantial systemic change is condescending Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #29

I support the candidate who is leading in the states we need to win in order to take the EC...and Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #46

M4All is not going to,happen. It isn't worth dividing the party over or risking this election. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #138

+1 betsuni Nov 2019 #140

Yeah, well, when you tell Wall St Billionaires whathehell Nov 2019 #36

BINGOOOOOOO!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #100

Yep. I like Biden's personality & I'lll vote for him if he's nominated whathehell Nov 2019 #114

Fuck that.You want to get on someone for "only fairly recently" becoming a Democrat it's not Warren. MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #43

Can't sink any more than Harris did LakeArenal Nov 2019 #72

Why would he sink because he criticizes Warren? I think this notion works the other way around. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #137

Sounds a little hypocritical Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #44

Not what he and by the way Obama said...he said it is elitist to expect all Democrats to agree with Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #52

Do you follow Biden's campaign? Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #60

Obama said Democrats had to be careful about purity Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #84

So you can't. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #157

A little?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #92

Okay then. Autumn Nov 2019 #50

. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #57

Joe is losing it. He talks about being the person who can work with anyone, who knows how to KPN Nov 2019 #64

Yeah, I want someone who works with fellow Democrats on behalf of fellow Democrats... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #96

Telling the other side to fuck off? Great idea! That will accomplish a lot redstateblues Nov 2019 #130

Biden never said condescending Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #115

"Only fairly recently" TWENTY-FOUR YEARS ago???? pnwmom Nov 2019 #66

No kidding. cwydro Nov 2019 #76

ZIIIIIIINNG!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #106

This week's "throw anything at the wall hoping it sticks" routine is late. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #71

I am repulsed by this type of appeal to the rich n/t delisen Nov 2019 #73

Are you surprised?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #93

Somebody get the... polichick Nov 2019 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #85

Ok Joe. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #86

The article doesn't quote Biden Katalino Nov 2019 #88

get em joe evertonfc Nov 2019 #103

Who? The mentioned "deep-pocketed Democratic donors, politicians and real estate executives" InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #105

give me a break evertonfc Nov 2019 #110

Why is Democrats donating to a Democratic candidate a problem? betsuni Nov 2019 #113

Dishonest headline Biden never sad condescending Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #116

He did melman Nov 2019 #119

Thank you for posting this. MarcA Nov 2019 #122

I find nothing wrong with Biden's statement...agree with him. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #126

I agree. It is always a better argument to talk up the positives than to try to shame folks into emmaverybo Nov 2019 #127

My sister says she has started hearing that people are supporting Joe as he can win...fingers Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #133

I kind of agree with him...I am not for M4A and have experienced some of this...as if Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #125

Sorry to say MFA is a General Election loser redstateblues Nov 2019 #131

I agree...and it isn't as good as some claim...have had a terrible time trying to deal with Medicare Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #132

"condescending to the millions of Democrats" Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #134

The attitude described is praised as "refreshing" in other POTUS candidates running as Dems ehrnst Nov 2019 #142

"So, I think he may have a point." melman Nov 2019 #143

Great speech and from the heart PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #136

He speaks from the heart and it goes to the heart. Old saying, when you speak from the heart, emmaverybo Nov 2019 #139

I bet those uber wealthy donors feel the same way Joe..... jalan48 Nov 2019 #146

I agree with Joe Biden on this Gothmog Nov 2019 #150