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Demsrule86

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24. That is completely untrue. And the idea that Trump will be easily beaten in the EC is wrong...
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM
Nov 2019

It is more important this year that we have a nominee who can beat Trump in the EC in the rust belt states...you hate Trump and I hate Trump,I would vote for any nominee...but you make a mistake if you think others in this center left country don't like him or like us less. Many will vote their party too- like him or not.I wish our voters would do this. Vote blue no matter who. One more Scotus pick and progressives might as well go home for the next several decades, the courts will be completely controlled by the right.

Trump has a good chance to win this thing and who the nominee is will determine whether we win or we lose. We came into this race thinking Trump must go but now it has descended into...I want this nominee or that one...even when multiple polls show their chosen candidate may not be the best one in terms of beating Trump. This is madness when we have evil squatting in the White House and our Republic is at risk.

I don't give two fucks about policy right now, where the candidates get their money to beat the crap out of Trump or really anything that usually I would consider in choosing whom I will support. I support Biden partly because I believe he is the only candidate that will beat Trump in the rust belt and multiple polls reflect this. I would vote blue no matter what of course but our chances are limited with other candidates.

We must win in the EC. If we voted directly, Trump would be beaten by any of our fine candidates, but we don't. We must win the EC and that will be accomplished in MI, WI and PA or not and the numbers are too close for my liking.

I would also add, I have never supported any nominee I agree with completely. I adored Obama but I never agreed with him on trade. He was however, my first choice. There are no perfect candidates and we need to understand this. Any Democrat is better than any Republican in any election period. I am always enthusiastic about winning and beating the crap out of any Republican, but this year especially Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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WOW 4% , Save your Money Mike ritapria Nov 2019 #1
Yipee! UncleNoel Nov 2019 #12
My concern DownriverDem Nov 2019 #2
Is that Bloomberg as well? crazytown Nov 2019 #3
More from Morning Consult Poll ritapria Nov 2019 #13
That's a turn up for the books crazytown Nov 2019 #16
Biden 31% Sanders+Warren 38% crazytown Nov 2019 #4
Neither does Warren Xandric77 Nov 2019 #10
"Or Delaney" crazytown Nov 2019 #11
So can Biden add all the lowest tier moderates to his number as well? UncleNoel Nov 2019 #15
Only if they drop out crazytown Nov 2019 #17
And it is very likely their votes will go to Biden as a moderate and not to Sanders and/ or Warren. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #26
Biden has more support than either Warren or Sanders... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #25
That's only true boomer_wv Nov 2019 #32
You do realize that Biden is at 31 and Sanders and Warren combined at 38...just a few more points Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #42
Actually 4% is pretty good at this point, if he keeps exploring it he'll likely pass Harris 4139 Nov 2019 #5
'25% of Democratic primary voters express unfavorable views of Bloomberg crazytown Nov 2019 #6
My sense evertonfc Nov 2019 #7
That's my sense too calguy Nov 2019 #8
This is an unusual election crazytown Nov 2019 #18
That is completely untrue. And the idea that Trump will be easily beaten in the EC is wrong... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #24
x1000! peggysue2 Nov 2019 #34
Thanks peggy given the recent polls, I believe others are coming to the same conclusion. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #35
You are right ritapria Nov 2019 #9
First of all the polls do show Biden will be fine in Iowa...but it is a caucus state thus I put no Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #22
Wow Mike Bloomberg...not a good sign 4% Peacetrain Nov 2019 #14
From Nate Silver Gothmog Nov 2019 #19
It is what some hoped for so they convince themselves that now it is over for Joe...began before Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #21
This is why I find it delusional when people say, "They are trying to push Biden down our throat". Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #45
I agree...it seems there is another candidate that the media, some pollsters and supporters are Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #46
Joe is the best and is in the lead as he has been all along. K&R It is sheer vanity for the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #20
4% and he hasn't entered. That's more than some candidates have now. FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #23
I can't believe that he will pull ahead of Harris. I do not like Bloomberg for president...he Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #27
Joe is my preference but if Bloomberg wins the nomination i'd vote for him in a heartbeat onetexan Nov 2019 #41
I am sorry to see Warren falling behind Sanders in recent polling. comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #28
From what I have read on social media...there is beginning to be a concern with Warren that she Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #29
I would think folks would have learned from 2016 not to trust social media nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #30
Sure...you don't believe everything your read, but when you see long term participants Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #31
Can You? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #33
That is a bit paranoid...you think the pollsters are duped also? Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #38
You specifically mentioned changing attitudes on social media, not polls Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #39
Some of these folks have followed me for years and are basing their opinions on recently Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #40
MFA will only kill us in the general if we acquiesce to fear and egbertowillies Nov 2019 #36
No, let's use our heads and run on the ACA with a public option which is popular and something we Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #37
... Scurrilous Nov 2019 #43
Yet another poll showing Warren & BS trading places. Despite the best efforts of his opponents... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #44
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