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crazytown

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54. State taxes fund public colleges.

Reply to Loki Liesmith (Reply #52)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:56 PM

Nov 2019

It is the same argument.

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Rich kids should pay fees to attend public schools. [View all] crazytown Nov 2019 OP

that is completely twisted logic. mopinko Nov 2019 #1

I think that tax equity would do the same thing. That way, they don't have even more impetus ehrnst Nov 2019 #2

Rich people should buy books and not use libraries. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2019 #3

I think paying their fair share in taxes is a better narrative JDC Nov 2019 #4

They already do PJMcK Nov 2019 #5

And citizens already pay taxes for public college crazytown Nov 2019 #7

How Do You Determine Who Is Rich Me. Nov 2019 #6

The same way Pete would disqualify the wealthy from 'free' college. crazytown Nov 2019 #8

Well Pete is dead wrong on this, as he is on many other issues. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #15

I absolutely agree. crazytown Nov 2019 #53

Should maybe have made your REAL point in the OP ... just sayin' (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #81

I will tell you what happened in GA where they implemented the hope scholarship with no Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #51

So Pointing Out Poor When Dealing With Kids Me. Nov 2019 #11

Pointing out the poor when dealing with college kids crazytown Nov 2019 #12

What Are You Talking About? Me. Nov 2019 #19

I am pointing out the same issues apply crazytown Nov 2019 #22

Discrimination Of This Sort May Sound Good To Some Me. Nov 2019 #24

So why isn't 'a fair tax proposal where everyone pays their fair share' crazytown Nov 2019 #26

It Would Apply Across The Board Me. Nov 2019 #37

Poor folks are barely putting food on the table ...they can't afford to pay... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #62

But Does That Need To Be A Public Statement Me. Nov 2019 #67

There is always a public statement...the thing is it shouldn't be used to shame folks. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #71

But We Know It Is Me. Nov 2019 #73

Kids always know...no way to stop that and making it free for all even those who don't need it will Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #77

But That Is Exactly What NYC Has Done Regarding School Food Me. Nov 2019 #86

Rich kids often don't go to public schools at all. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #9

Like rich kids don't often go to public college. crazytown Nov 2019 #10

Some do. If Daddy can't get them into the Ivy League school he went to, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #16

A question of degree crazytown Nov 2019 #20

I'm not sure what the argument really is. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #23

There I absolutely agree with you. crazytown Nov 2019 #29

They did in Georgia after Hope...and the poor ended up subsidizing them. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #63

My children both attended private school, K through college . . . Journeyman Nov 2019 #13

If you read the followups the CT posted you'll find this is actually an anti-Pete's position post mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #84

We pay for public education because Skidmore Dec 2019 #114

Re-read my post. I voted to continue my contribution . . . Journeyman Dec 2019 #115

Whenever public services are gated by income they become divisive and oppressive. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #14

Like public college? crazytown Nov 2019 #17

I absolutely support universal public college. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #21

Yep crazytown Nov 2019 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author YOHABLO Nov 2019 #18

Twisted and a losing issue...have you considered the general and how we craft a winning message? Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #25

Dear lord no. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #27

All tax payers are contributing to public college. crazytown Nov 2019 #30

That simply isn't true...states have cut funding to the bone for state colleges...and the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #72

In nearly all states that isn't even close to true dsc Nov 2019 #98

But the wealthy pay more taxes in total. crazytown Nov 2019 #101

So talk about right wing talking points dsc Nov 2019 #102

I agree that income-based tuition should not be required to attend a public school. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #34

The real problem, if we are talking about public colleges, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #91

I don't think property taxes are used for higher ed - they definitely aren't in my state. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #92

They/their families (and we) DO pay 'fees,' elleng Nov 2019 #28

And wealthy families pay taxes for public colleges as well. crazytown Nov 2019 #31

Yes elleng Nov 2019 #32

I am just pointing out that the arguments for free education crazytown Nov 2019 #35

The arguments only apply equally if you are advocating for making college compulsory LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #38

No. Completing high school is not compulsory. crazytown Nov 2019 #41

Only the last couple of years, depending on jurisdiction. College is completely optional. LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #42

It's not optional these days if you want a good job. crazytown Nov 2019 #45

So, are you advocating for making college compulsory? If not, then you're just quibbling LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #57

No, I'm arguing the state should pay for the education crazytown Nov 2019 #60

You can't force states to do this...so what is the point? Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #74

Public universities are not funded in the same way as public K-12. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #40

And ... ? crazytown Nov 2019 #44

The point is that public universities are not funded the same way as K-12, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #55

It does not change the argument of whether government crazytown Nov 2019 #59

If public schools are funded by priority and local/ state taxes... aikoaiko Nov 2019 #36

Public ed. includes public college crazytown Nov 2019 #39

Public school is for the public. That includes rich kids. GemDigger Nov 2019 #43

Public college is for the public. crazytown Nov 2019 #47

No they aren't dsc Nov 2019 #99

K-12 GemDigger Nov 2019 #113

Question QualTest Nov 2019 #46

How many "Rich Kids" attend "Public College"? crazytown Nov 2019 #49

No, public school should stay free for everyone. Liberty Belle Nov 2019 #48

Agreed. crazytown Nov 2019 #50

That's not a public school then Loki Liesmith Nov 2019 #52

State taxes fund public colleges. crazytown Nov 2019 #54

No, no they used to...but many states have cut the money sent public colleges...and many have closed Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #64

They do pay fees. They're called taxes. brooklynite Nov 2019 #56

In most states the main funding of schools is the property tax karynnj Nov 2019 #58

The poor pay state taxes too. crazytown Nov 2019 #66

Property taxes are town or city taxes and they are based on assessed value karynnj Nov 2019 #82

No, no,no LiberalBrooke Nov 2019 #61

I agree. crazytown Nov 2019 #65

The arguments for funding public college are the same, eom. crazytown Nov 2019 #68

Most of them do not attend public schools. MineralMan Nov 2019 #69

Most of them do not attend public college. crazytown Nov 2019 #70

That is true, too. MineralMan Nov 2019 #78

They, presumably, already do. bitterross Nov 2019 #75

Their parents are also paying for public colleges through State taxes. crazytown Nov 2019 #76

That's insane. Iggo Nov 2019 #79

This thread is an argument of tuition free public college. crazytown Nov 2019 #80

I know what it is. And it's still insane. Iggo Nov 2019 #83

it would be OK to stop diverting public education $$ to private schools Maine-i-acs Nov 2019 #85

This is trolling Pisces Nov 2019 #87

No, it is a thread exploring the arguments for fee free education crazytown Nov 2019 #88

How about homeschooling households no longer get money for curriculum and p.e. Classes. Pisces Nov 2019 #89

No public funding for 'Liberty' University. crazytown Nov 2019 #90

No, it'd be bigoted discrimination against children of wealthy parents Hortensis Nov 2019 #93

No. Not at all. crazytown Nov 2019 #94

Okay, but encouraging the more prosperous half of Hortensis Nov 2019 #95

Very Well Said Me. Nov 2019 #107

Have to agree LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #96

last I checked public high schools don't have admission requirements dsc Nov 2019 #97

Not everyone can get into the civil service either. crazytown Nov 2019 #100

the civil service favors military vets which actually disfavors the wealthy who are less likely to dsc Nov 2019 #103

Charter School was line item on my real estate tax bill. Furious OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #104

I am completely flabbergasted by how many didn't get your real meaning. aidbo Nov 2019 #105

It was far clumsier a proposal-- not exaggerated or detailed enough to be satire. dawg day Nov 2019 #108

I put an edit in the the OP to make it clear what I was talking about. crazytown Nov 2019 #111

In my kids' public school, there were two families who were very wealthy- dawg day Nov 2019 #106

So you don't understand how property tax works? That's how public beachbumbob Nov 2019 #109

As indicated in the OP crazytown Nov 2019 #110

No. Blue_true Nov 2019 #112

They will just always go to private schools treestar Dec 2019 #116