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karynnj

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13. It worries me a bit that because MSNBC does have Republicans on that someone, some time

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 06:51 PM

Dec 2019

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might have said that. I wish he would have simply strongly denied that he did anything to help Hunter get that job - and if true - say that he had wished Hunter didn't take that job. It is more important that the claim is not true and part of a RW smear that is taking the known fact (known since Hunter took the job) and conflating that it was a conduit to his dad and President Obama.

The facts are that while Hunter did have a job that did create an appearance of conflict of interest, everyone in teh Obama administration and our EU allies was pushing Ukraine to clean up corruption.

I don't think this person could have been won over - I agree he is likely a MAGA person - but others in the crowd might have some misgivings on the issue which will come up again. Anger is a normal reaction, but I think it might have been better to more calmly say that he did not send his son there and that no one in teh Obama administration acted in Burisma's favor.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The guy in Iowa said MSNBC reported that Biden got a job for Hunter [View all] Peacetrain Dec 2019 OP

Lying implies intent. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #1

Nope.. he did not.. he stood there and claimed MSNBC reported this crap Peacetrain Dec 2019 #3

The Ukraine story was on every major media outlet for months. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #5

That is bull.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #7

Of course the story is bull****. That doesn't mean it wasn't covered by every news outlet. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #12

There is no way he was "just uninformed" Peacetrain Dec 2019 #15

Do you have evidence to the contrary? HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #19

Do you? Peacetrain Dec 2019 #20

Sure, all you have to do is go to MSNBC and search for Biden and Ukraine. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #22

Bull hockey.. He came to spew the right wing venom from the bowels of the internet Peacetrain Dec 2019 #23

Trying to claim he's some sort of right wing shill without evidence is divisive. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #26

Oh this is just rich.. now I am the one who is divisive. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #29

Symone Sanders tweeted the guy is a Warren supporter who would vote for Biden in the GE. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #30

Yeah right.. I saw that, and if he is a Warren supporter than I am the Cisco Kid.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #31

LOL.. still trying to protect the MAGAT spewing RW Cha Dec 2019 #52

I believe ALL of our candidates would come on strong if someone was lying about their family. emulatorloo Dec 2019 #53

Aloha, emulatorloo! Cha Dec 2019 #55

Oh please. A guy that shows up at a rally? redstateblues Dec 2019 #58

If you're going to claim he was a plant, then provide evidence. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #60

"Your selling access to the President (Obama)" prove he isn't a plant Peacetrain Dec 2019 #65

None so blind as though who will not see. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #75

He was spouting the Rightie bullshit...yeah, he is a right wing asshat. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #61

The guy was later proven to be a Trumper...and not a Warren supporter. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #71

Yes, the "Ukraine story" was on every major media outlet, but the only one.... George II Dec 2019 #44

He didn't hear anyone on MSNBC say Biden got Hunter the job. He's lying about that. n/t pnwmom Dec 2019 #45

It worries me a bit that because MSNBC does have Republicans on that someone, some time karynnj Dec 2019 #13

Yep, this would have been a much more reasonable way to respond. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #28

Yea you keep repeating this all over the forum. No one is buying it. phleshdef Dec 2019 #18

A lie is also a reckless disregard for the truth. W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #67

Unless you're convinced it's the truth. HerbChestnut Dec 2019 #69

Of course you speculate he's sincere. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #74

"You didn't hear that on MSNBC." "You're a damn liar!" BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #2

You saw it is his eyes.. he just turned on that guy when he Peacetrain Dec 2019 #4

He also told Biden he was too old to run for president.From your link here's the entire interchange: George II Dec 2019 #6

Biden has a wicked sense of humor.. I heard when he told him he was too old to vote for him.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #8

Yeah. Because Biden doesn't have the old demographic. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #46

Do you know what we are referring to? Peacetrain Dec 2019 #49

... emulatorloo Dec 2019 #56

Yes, I do. Thanks for checking. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #73

The guy is 100 percent MAGAt. BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #9

That is what the consensus is here in Iowa Peacetrain Dec 2019 #10

Yes. After finally seeing it, he was a Trumper. R B Garr Dec 2019 #72

I like Biden and I liked Hav Dec 2019 #11

Yep..the right is desperate, and so are some other people.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #14

Biden did great and will tear Trump up in the debates. IluvPitties Dec 2019 #16

This is why Trump is scared of Biden.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #17

Amazing how these uninformed Folks pop up at these events. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #21

I am from a small town in Iowa..there is more than a few on the loose.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #27

Oh how I know. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #37

You will not get an argument from me on that.. have you been to northwest Iowa Peacetrain Dec 2019 #39

I'm guessing he heard it on talk radio. underpants Dec 2019 #33

AM Radio gets down right ugly, Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #43

Since I just actually bought a house underpants Dec 2019 #66

Do understand, Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #70

New Hampton is Chucky Grassley's home town rurallib Dec 2019 #24

Yep.. the red is deep there Peacetrain Dec 2019 #25

Apparently that's not the only thing that's "deep" there. George II Dec 2019 #32

rofl.. I have been laughing all afternoon since we came in and saw that.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #34

Yup. And the county is in Steve King's district emulatorloo Dec 2019 #54

A MAGAt lying about being a Warren supporter - crazytown Dec 2019 #35

Most likely.. I would not doubt it for a second.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #36

I loved this response from Joe crazytown Dec 2019 #40

He does have a wicked sense of humor!! Peacetrain Dec 2019 #41

omg.. that was funny! lol Cha Dec 2019 #57

George and Peacetrain think he's MAGAt crazytown Dec 2019 #62

Yeah, he sounds like one except Cha Dec 2019 #63

'Undercover asset' ! crazytown Dec 2019 #64

Good one, Joe world wide wally Dec 2019 #38

There's a short video on twitter where the guy admitted he was there on a mission..... George II Dec 2019 #42

He's a MAGAt smearing as many Dems as he can. crazytown Dec 2019 #47

Yes, we know he's not a Warren supporter... George II Dec 2019 #48

From Symone Sanders Gothmog Dec 2019 #50

And who got a job for Ivanka and Jared in their administration? SummerSnow Dec 2019 #51

A magat for sure...and a liar...Biden did great...I love the last line...'I know you won't vote for Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #59

Yep, guy claimed he heard an anti-Biden/anti-Obama conspiracy theory on MSNBC... gulliver Dec 2019 #68