Democratic Primaries

Demsrule86

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56. Yes, we have always won with a big tent approach...Dean was very successful with a 50

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:25 AM

Dec 2019

state strategy. It is the only way we win. Look at the Senate...it is not possible to win the senate without moderate to conservative states sending Democratic Senators to Congress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden: Media, rivals wrong that AOC represents direction of party [View all] brooklynite Dec 2019 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #1

Well, he's right but I better Cha Dec 2019 #2

Joe is stuck in a time warp... the Democratic Party has moved on!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #3

Exactly this. If you want to be part of our future get out the way! Joe941 Dec 2019 #4

Bernie's shown Democrats the light his entire political life & lead the way InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #16

No he hasn't. George II Dec 2019 #38

Oh please. Aquaria Dec 2019 #39

No he hasn't. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #44

Hahahaha awesomerwb1 Dec 2019 #81

Suuure he has. And he demonstrates "the light" by making hires like this: George II Dec 2019 #89

n... no, please stop doing this uponit7771 Dec 2019 #134

Who exactly comprises "our"? George II Dec 2019 #73

I ain't moved on. Loki Liesmith Dec 2019 #6

I'm the same Democrat I was 40 years ago, as are most of the Democrats I come across daily. George II Dec 2019 #82

Even if he's right, it seems MBS Dec 2019 #131

Yes it has moved on Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #8

True that!!! rainy Dec 2019 #12

The time warp that's the Electoral college. Win the damn election dem4decades Dec 2019 #14

This does deeper than that. This is like that "gateway drug" comment. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #23

Not a good example JoeDuck Dec 2019 #34

You don't think Kentuckians don't mind voting to protect their healthcare? dem4decades Dec 2019 #48

I'm not sure what you are suggesting. JoeDuck Dec 2019 #142

I can only imagine how Beto's comments about The Mouth Dec 2019 #167

"All politics is local" The Mouth Dec 2019 #130

"Local" is confusing in these parts. JoeDuck Dec 2019 #143

I agree totally duforsure Dec 2019 #53

Propensity to lose one's temper is a sure sign. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #146

"Joe is stuck in a time warp... the Democratic Party has moved on?" Have you seen the Democrats... George II Dec 2019 #69

even obama campaigned on "hope and change".... joe, not so much -n/t Locrian Dec 2019 #88

Yeah, status quo isn't going to excite the base... why, fortunately, Joe won't get the nomination. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #148

The nominee will not be a Democratic Socialist redstateblues Dec 2019 #155

Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #162

The Party hasn't moved "extremely" left. That's an illusion propagated MarcA Dec 2019 #121

Has he always said "man" this often? Tipperary Dec 2019 #141

Odd indeed! But, that's Joe these days... endearing to some. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #149

He's been using that for years, if not decades. George II Dec 2019 #169

+1000 janterry Dec 2019 #201

We're not going to nominate Joe... I have confidence in the Democrat Party InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #205

Just shows twitter is not real life Otto Lidenbrock Dec 2019 #5

Exactly and that's not all.. Cha Dec 2019 #9

Yeah, she's a superstar all right. Just dont endorse me! oldsoftie Dec 2019 #19

My man Gus. He's one of my favorite tweeple. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #40

Good to know, Kahuna.. I don't recall Cha Dec 2019 #41

He's definitely, no malarkey! Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #42

I think I have one more; Ammar Campa-Najjar. Anon-C Dec 2019 #60

Is it only justice Dems who want M4A? Or is it most Americans? redqueen Dec 2019 #25

The dems who switched seats from red to blue in 2018 mostly ran on defending the ACA Otto Lidenbrock Dec 2019 #31

I get that. But does that mean the entire party is moving in the direction of those areas? redqueen Dec 2019 #37

I think a decade from now we will be on that path Otto Lidenbrock Dec 2019 #45

So the party is moving in the direction of AOC. redqueen Dec 2019 #71

We are always going to have to appeal to a variety of voters...extremes on the right and the left Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #106

Not red states - PEOPLE. redqueen Dec 2019 #107

We have to or we will never have senate majority...we must compete in red and purple states. I Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #179

They also campaigned against Lacy Clay and Gretchen Whitmer in Missouri and Michigan.... George II Dec 2019 #85

Justice Democrats take money from the GOP and our revolution has supported independents and Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #180

Their endorsement pages have been removed from their website. On the other hand.... George II Dec 2019 #182

And No, Joe Biden is Not "stuck in a time warp" Cha Dec 2019 #7

With friends like this, who needs enemas? ProfessorPlum Dec 2019 #10

Biden is right.. whether you want to look Cha Dec 2019 #13

Exactly!!! rainy Dec 2019 #15

BOOOOOOOOMMM!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #17

Except that its not possible using the funding plans proposed. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #20

The 2018 midterms seem to verify that the point that Joe was making, that the Ocasio-Cortez faction still_one Dec 2019 #26

Definitely. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #33

That's not what he said - he said "direction of the party" - and he is wrong. redqueen Dec 2019 #96

Your opinion is that he is wrong. Perhaps your opinion is wrong. Is that possible? still_one Dec 2019 #114

Are you saying you think the constant shift to the right redqueen Dec 2019 #116

It is YOU who are saying th Democratic party is shifting to the right, NOT ME. You are the one who still_one Dec 2019 #117

It is established fact. redqueen Dec 2019 #119

BS. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #139

You haven't even been here a month. The vast majority of DU seems to see things differently. redqueen Dec 2019 #145

Sorry to be in the mainstream liberal majority The Valley Below Dec 2019 #150

You're really not. Why don't you talk about how dangerous the devil weed is some more. redqueen Dec 2019 #151

Heavy marijuana smoking by teens shows serious negative impacts The Valley Below Dec 2019 #163

no one is suggesting that mj be made legal for children...i do not know why you keep implying it questionseverything Dec 2019 #206

No. The problem is that CA's legalization scheme has not worked to stop sales to minors. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #207

cali screwed up by making legal weed so expensive that illegal weed is stil available but questionseverything Dec 2019 #208

Don't believe me if that's your choice, but I'm telling the straight truth. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #209

This is classic RW and Russian disinformation directed Hortensis Dec 2019 #144

I'm not arguing about this any longer. redqueen Dec 2019 #147

I'd remove myself from the argument after that own, too. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #170

I don't want you to argue. I want you to learn how shockingly, Hortensis Dec 2019 #178

As far as social issues you have a point. On economic issues we are further to the right. redqueen Dec 2019 #186

Bravo! The Valley Below Dec 2019 #153

I agree, he is totally out of step janterry Dec 2019 #203

I get not promising the moon. I get that. But Americans WANT M4A. redqueen Dec 2019 #29

They don't not if it means workplace insurance goes away...hubs and I will pay far more than what we Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #55

I agree that we can't get there all at once. redqueen Dec 2019 #72

Rationing has to happen whatever plan you select exboyfil Dec 2019 #87

So, we let people die? Sorry not on board. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #93

87% against. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #154

No true. MFA is very unpopular. That's why Warren has backed away from it redstateblues Dec 2019 #156

but it seems people WANT to ignore that to contiue their identity politics/candidate Locrian Dec 2019 #195

I am sick of being told that liberals Bettie Dec 2019 #66

And I'm a liberal who is sick of being called a right-winger because I argue for attainable change LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #125

"Attainable Change" Bettie Dec 2019 #126

No, it means actually accomplishing something LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #127

So, only ask for what Republicans are willing Bettie Dec 2019 #128

Nope. Strawman. LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #129

You got that right!! Incremental change, while little people go bankrupt or die, that's the ticket! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #160

Neither will win the general...thus we get no change of any kind... I would say Sanders has Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #181

Thanks for that. Totally agree redstateblues Dec 2019 #157

We are a party afraid to be our true selves because rainy Dec 2019 #11

DING DING DING!!! WE HAVA WINNA!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #18

I don't really agree. You have to attract all sorts of voters...and AOC doesn't do that. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #58

What you say is true as long as money controls the entire enterprise of our government. Until we rainy Dec 2019 #86

I don't see how money controls ideology...the right sold their Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #95

Fox and right wing radio only exist rainy Dec 2019 #115

Well we better do something because until we win...nothing is going to change and everytime Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #183

Power yields nothing without a fight! rainy Dec 2019 #191

Extremely disappointing. redqueen Dec 2019 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Dec 2019 #28

TRUTH!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #43

What most people want is to expand the ACA by offering a public option. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #59

No, that's where we are now, because of lobbyists and their accomplices redqueen Dec 2019 #74

So what you're really saying is that people have been brainwashed The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #90

Not brainwashed, misled. Lobbyists have successful in influencing enough people redqueen Dec 2019 #94

Can you at least find a poll not funded by Kaiser? redqueen Dec 2019 #164

I picked it only because it was the most recent one, but here's another, done in September The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #165

Thanks. I do know that the media onslaught has been effective. redqueen Dec 2019 #166

And that's no malarkey!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #161

All one has to do is look at the midterms, where it was the "so-called" moderate DEMOCRATS who still_one Dec 2019 #22

Progressive Democrats running in competitive House districts had a bad night on Tuesday Cha Dec 2019 #30

Appreciate the specifics Cha +++ still_one Dec 2019 #35

Yes. Just because the industry has been working with its friends in Congress redqueen Dec 2019 #36

Well we can't fix anything unless we win elections. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #64

I agree - I agree M4A can't be the initial goal - but it MUST BE the long term goal. redqueen Dec 2019 #78

Not M4A...how about a new plan that fits this country...some sort of universal coverage. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #97

WE ARE A PARTY DETERMINED to BEAT trump.. Cha Dec 2019 #24

Pete understands the urgency of the climate crisis in comparison to IndyOp Dec 2019 #27

Joe was the first to address the climate and has actually passed legislation...what exactly has Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #98

I love Warren and Sanders. But I agree with Joe. CousinIT Dec 2019 #32

Joe's 100% correct. RelativelyJones Dec 2019 #46

I think Joe's wrong... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #47

I think you're wrong. Cha Dec 2019 #49

I agree with Joe Biden on this Gothmog Dec 2019 #50

He is right...AOC can only win in a very blue blue district...doubt she would win a statewide race Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #51

He said that out loud. dchill Dec 2019 #52

The party has both factions as members. MineralMan Dec 2019 #54

Yes, we have always won with a big tent approach...Dean was very successful with a 50 Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #56

There are a lot of inexperienced people out there who have MineralMan Dec 2019 #63

I agree...we must stand together and accept diverse views...the Democratic party is Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #70

I don't have as much energy as I once did. MineralMan Dec 2019 #76

So...true. And I am optimistic...this primary is certainly not as bad as the Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #100

We'll see. Right now, there are too many candidates, so there can't MineralMan Dec 2019 #101

I am hoping Biden wins decisively...and we have a nominee sooner rather than later. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #105

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #118

Yes, Political Realities. MineralMan Dec 2019 #120

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #122

OK. So what's your plan? MineralMan Dec 2019 #123

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #132

Joe is whistling past the graveyard. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #57

What makes you think younger voters support AOC? Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #61

I don't see AOC as a bridge builder who can put any sort of winning comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #124

Yes... and that's no malarkey!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #135

He's right, as the 2018 elections demonstrated LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #62

The party has moved on. The electoral college swing states have moved little. Politicub Dec 2019 #65

In my opinion we cannot keep the status quo. Whoever is elected needs to make some major vsrazdem Dec 2019 #67

Joe Biden- If we move too far left, we will lose to Trump Gothmog Dec 2019 #68

VP Biden is right Baked Potato Dec 2019 #75

We need Young people to show up in droves and organize ritapria Dec 2019 #77

Young people don't turn out in droves. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #83

OK lunasun Dec 2019 #188

I'm with Joe. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #79

Totally agree with Joe Biden. democratisphere Dec 2019 #80

Democrats are center left and what works in liberal areas beachbumbob Dec 2019 #84

Biden's right. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #91

Come on Man!!! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #92

The party is now so far right that Nixon's positions are more liberal than many Dems. redqueen Dec 2019 #99

I'm worried! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #102

We are as clear as can be. We support liberal democracy. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #103

You mean the GOP talking point about Bernie being a (get your fainting couch under you)... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #108

Are you calling the self-description by BS of himself a Republican talking point? The Valley Below Dec 2019 #109

Both can be true: Bernie's description of himself can be easily made into a false... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #110

You seem to be the only one of us two who watches FOX. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #111

Sorry! But this is the Primaries. It gets rough sometimes. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #112

There is no good excuse for you making personal insults Joe. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #113

Ain't that the truth. Sad that it's the MO of some on this site redstateblues Dec 2019 #159

Sorry Joe. The moniker that Bernie has chosen is a millstone redstateblues Dec 2019 #158

Whistling passed the graveyard redstateblues Dec 2019 #187

Let me know how you feel when we all celebrate President Sanders' election! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #190

Bernie could win the General but his problem is redstateblues Dec 2019 #200

You're not the only one who's worried Joe!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #189

Ah yes. Nixon's so progressive positions... Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #171

Facts and reality get in the way for some people still_one Dec 2019 #172

LMFAO - I'll pass on replying to your bait or your insults. redqueen Dec 2019 #173

Nothing progressive about Nixon's racist stances. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #174

No kidding. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #176

Reductio ad absurdum. redqueen Dec 2019 #185

You said today's Democrats were way to the right of Nixon. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #193

lol no I didn't redqueen Dec 2019 #194

lol now you lying... Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #196

Yeah - read that again - I said POSITIONS redqueen Dec 2019 #197

lol nice save. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #198

That is ridiculous. Positions change over time. Or they should. redqueen Dec 2019 #199

Stop backtracking... Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #204

Thanks for de-bunking the BS. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #175

Moderate Dems made almost all of the gains in 2018. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #104

is that in overall numbers, or as a percentage? ProfessorPlum Dec 2019 #133

Biden's right. And he's pushing back against GOP ratfuckery. Scurrilous Dec 2019 #136

It was only natural that some in the party moved to the left in reaction to Trump maximusveritas Dec 2019 #137

It is what Susan Sarandon hoped for when she ratfucked our party. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #140

If the MSM would listen to Joe they just might learn something. oasis Dec 2019 #138

I agree with Joe Gothmog Dec 2019 #152

That's not useful rhetoric. It's divisive and way too simplistic. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #168

AOC won't gain any votes for us in PA, Michigan or Wisconsin. nt doc03 Dec 2019 #177

Even if she doesn't Turbineguy Dec 2019 #184

Joe is right. Thank goodness for his honesty. R B Garr Dec 2019 #192

Joe is right about this redstateblues Dec 2019 #202