Democratic Primaries

tonedevil

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85. I do not support Sanders...

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:29 PM

Dec 2019

in his campaign to become the Democratic nominee for President in 2020. I am quite ambivalent about Shawn King he has said things I thought quite profound and things that I have thought moronic. I am loath to be aggressive in my remarks regarding African Americans as I see what could be the dictionary picture of white male privilege when I look in the mirror. That said, antisemitic and homophobic remarks, which is what I am understanding is the case with Sanders' former staffer, should not be acceptable regardless one's own ethnicity.
Trying to delegitimize someone being upset, outraged, or whatever their emotion is because they refuse to couple your outrage to thier's is not reasonable in the least. The former staffer is not something I am going to spend time on sorry if that doesn't suit you. For me the Bloomberg stupidity isn't that important, it's people on DU acting like there isn't a history of white people being in wonder at the sight of an articulate, well spoken, or clean Black Person.

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I'm just not in the mood to explain why Bloomberg calling Cory Booker "well-spoken" is a problem [View all] StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP

I don't know but I would rather have Cory Booker than Bloomberg any time, anywhere. nt Grasswire2 Dec 2019 #1

Yup. No Bloomberg and no Tulsi. Blue_playwright Dec 2019 #98

UGH. I'll pass. ancianita Dec 2019 #2

For most of us, you don't need to explain. bitterross Dec 2019 #3

He's putting Booker in his place. dchill Dec 2019 #18

Agreed... these "articulate, bright and clean" type comments have no place in Democratic politics. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #107

It is unfortunately a waste... tonedevil Dec 2019 #4

+1 MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #5

Take out the wypipo JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #7

Having already seen the... tonedevil Dec 2019 #15

Yeah JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #16

Meh, I've been called "wypipo" The Mouth Dec 2019 #10

What about George Wallace 1972? Wabbajack_ Dec 2019 #56

Yep The Mouth Dec 2019 #64

AFAIC wryter2000 Dec 2019 #78

I've been called worse. The Mouth Dec 2019 #93

Spot on, as usual... sad but true. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #87

If they have to tell me JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #6

Well squirecam Dec 2019 #8

Booker never said he was "outraged" StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #13

Where squirecam Dec 2019 #17

Where did I get "angry black man" from you describing a black man as "outraged"? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #21

Dude... squirecam Dec 2019 #26

How does Shaun King being pissed off about something mean that Cory Booker "outraged" over it? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #33

Right.... squirecam Dec 2019 #37

Welcome back! ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #14

.. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #22

Why are you bringing Gordon, whoever that is, and Shawn King into this? pnwmom Dec 2019 #40

If squirecam Dec 2019 #45

Why not post your own OP on this separate issue? Most people aren't up on the latest pnwmom Dec 2019 #48

Because squirecam Dec 2019 #54

So post more in that one, rather than complaining in this one. nt pnwmom Dec 2019 #59

So squirecam Dec 2019 #65

It's possible to show outrage about two different issues each on their own thread. Chemisse Dec 2019 #97

I've said squirecam Dec 2019 #101

The problems rests on the proposition that anyone who calls a black person "well-spoken" The Valley Below Dec 2019 #9

The proposition is not at all inaccurate. /nt tonedevil Dec 2019 #11

Well squirecam Dec 2019 #12

I believe Bloomberg meant it as a sincere compliment. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #19

Well squirecam Dec 2019 #20

I don't mean to be obtuse... tonedevil Dec 2019 #24

There are threads... squirecam Dec 2019 #31

What in the hell does Shaun King or this Gordon person have to do with my OP about how calling black StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #35

I see.... squirecam Dec 2019 #38

No. Several people have told you that Gordon and Shawn King have ZERO to do with the OP. pnwmom Dec 2019 #42

I understand who you are talking about now... tonedevil Dec 2019 #41

You squirecam Dec 2019 #43

I will assume that Gordon's Tweets are 100% wrong... tonedevil Dec 2019 #46

Yes squirecam Dec 2019 #49

When I look up... tonedevil Dec 2019 #57

Bloomberg squirecam Dec 2019 #62

Have you noticed... tonedevil Dec 2019 #66

Yes squirecam Dec 2019 #67

You are going to need to let us know the standard... tonedevil Dec 2019 #68

How about Any? squirecam Dec 2019 #70

I do not support Sanders... tonedevil Dec 2019 #85

If squirecam Dec 2019 #88

This particular thread... tonedevil Dec 2019 #94

Well I'm 49 squirecam Dec 2019 #103

It's painful to see... tonedevil Dec 2019 #106

My thought is squirecam Dec 2019 #109

Bingo wryter2000 Dec 2019 #80

You are spot on. paleotn Dec 2019 #86

Bloomberg apologized, but here is the exact quote still_one Dec 2019 #23

The context puts it into even sharper focus StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #25

I was thinking the context is even more damning ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #28

He squirecam Dec 2019 #32

Wow. Bloomberg Is . . . DarthDem Dec 2019 #27

A gilded turd is still a turd ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #30

No explanation needed sarisataka Dec 2019 #29

Isn't there a thread from 2007 Doormouse Dec 2019 #34

How did you get to know that? I was here then and I never saw it. marble falls Dec 2019 #116

I get it. Faux pas Dec 2019 #36

"Vernon can READ!" StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #39

It's simple -- when's the last time someone said this about a white person? lettucebe Dec 2019 #44

You got it StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #47

You mean they didn't call Reagan The Great Well-Spoken Guy? BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #51

I applaused your yeoman's effort. rogue emissary Dec 2019 #50

It's only racist evertonfc Dec 2019 #52

Can I please just shake my head at the idea this needs to be explained yet again? greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #53

If people didn't understand why it was bad to call Obama "articulate" Salviati Dec 2019 #55

I can't keep up with this . . moreland01 Dec 2019 #58

Actually Obama is amazingly and notably articulate. Chemisse Dec 2019 #99

There's a difference between being articulate and being eloquent StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #105

Very good point. Chemisse Dec 2019 #111

I don't explain/talk about black things on DU outside of the Afam forums anymore. SaschaHM Dec 2019 #60

... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #63

Maher is a total asshole on many levels wryter2000 Dec 2019 #82

*mile redqueen Dec 2019 #113

Given Bloomberg's history Curtis Dec 2019 #61

Chris Rock will explain: Marthe48 Dec 2019 #69

Well that certainly describes the issue for anyone who is confused - LOL! n/t Chemisse Dec 2019 #100

I never forgot it Marthe48 Dec 2019 #108

You don't have to explain and I don't blame you. BeckyDem Dec 2019 #71

I see it very much like birtherism loyalsister Dec 2019 #72

The implied end of that sentence is "...for a black man." dlk Dec 2019 #73

I translate into "house negro". n/t. Scruffy1 Dec 2019 #74

You mean people actually are asking why? mcar Dec 2019 #75

Oh mercy, he did? It's condescending and patronizing, like calling President Obama "articulate mahina Dec 2019 #76

Don't forget "clean." cwydro Dec 2019 #83

So insulting mahina Dec 2019 #91

Seems to be a lot of silent folks here regarding this issue. cwydro Dec 2019 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Dec 2019 #110

I'll just bet he's clean, too wryter2000 Dec 2019 #77

Yikes..talk about out of touch. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #79

because there is an unspoken phrase that always appended to the phrase he used lapfog_1 Dec 2019 #81

I admit the responses to my OP about this... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #84

Oh, dear lord. paleotn Dec 2019 #89

It's the non hateful racism lunatica Dec 2019 #90

I think calling someone "well spoken" is... Mike Nelson Dec 2019 #92

white supremacy. yes its that simple and its deep. one party banks on it. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #96

I don't have the breath. Lunabell Dec 2019 #102

Booker A Rhodes Scholar with a law degree from Yale! madaboutharry Dec 2019 #104

No, I can't. Well I CAN, but I won't. Because Google exists. And if you give the slightest of fucks redqueen Dec 2019 #112

White people, why are you working so hard to explain away the actual lived experience of black WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2019 #114

It's maddening, isn't it? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #115

Just watched Howard Stern Interview of Hillary treestar Dec 2019 #117

At some point, we're going to have to believe everyone is equal... TCJ70 Dec 2019 #118

How is this any worse then when Biden said about obama.... Joe941 Dec 2019 #119