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calimary

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292. I'm only gonna vote for him if I have to.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:00 AM
Dec 2019

I took the Indivisible Pledge. Whoever winds up as our nominee gets my vote. Even him. I will do so reluctantly, but so be it.

I won’t run off with some pie-in-the-sky independent and I sure as shit ain’t votin’ for the Orange Turd.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Aren't we all. Squinch Dec 2019 #1
Oh, yes. nt Hortensis Dec 2019 #101
Yet there are so many more significant things that contributed to her loss. thesquanderer Dec 2019 #212
Right. A large contingent booing at the convention had no effect on public perception at all. Squinch Dec 2019 #213
I didn't say zero impact. But compared to some of those others? thesquanderer Dec 2019 #214
You might have footing if it wasn't lost by a razors edge. But I don't think you do. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2019 #280
Razor's edge means that perhaps any ONE of those many things could have made a difference. thesquanderer Dec 2019 #291
I was at the convention Gothmog Dec 2019 #329
She's right, and I'm glad she is calling it out. R B Garr Dec 2019 #2
absolutely, and stay tuned for it happening again...and maybe worse Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #127
I have a feeling we are headed to a similar situation in 2020. honest.abe Dec 2019 #3
if sanders is held to under 300 delegates, then the next national convention may be okay Gothmog Dec 2019 #35
Yeah, that is my hope that Biden wins so decisively that Bernie and his supporters give in. honest.abe Dec 2019 #40
Not a chance to ending graciously. Not them. Hortensis Dec 2019 #112
Well then let's hope this will be the case Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #54
Hasn't Sanders forced changes in the process? question everything Dec 2019 #87
Yes. We had to make sure illicit requests for superdelegates Hortensis Dec 2019 #120
the whole idea of the Superdelegates The Mouth Dec 2019 #152
All Sanders' current ideas are mainstream Democratic, Hortensis Dec 2019 #166
In fact most of them have been mainstream Democratic ideas for decades. George II Dec 2019 #227
Yes. That Democrats have instead always fought progressivism Hortensis Dec 2019 #230
These are the current rules that are now in effect Gothmog Dec 2019 #162
It's even more important that they are not in the building. Renew Deal Dec 2019 #184
Yes! He's already publicly stated he "wasn't sure" if he would endorse EW should she win the nom Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #48
Source? nt redqueen Dec 2019 #113
Oh no, Kasper, to Warren supporting Sanders. Big no. Hortensis Dec 2019 #137
The Bernie resentment of Hillary's win helped the Russians influence his supporters Darwin2019 Dec 2019 #71
Russia used sanders to help trump win Gothmog Dec 2019 #330
"They wont go quietly." redqueen Dec 2019 #114
Yeah, and one would think they, the Bernie supporters, as "fellow Democrats", would do the same. honest.abe Dec 2019 #126
12% of Bernie's supporters (all if not most were Repubs) voted for Trump. redqueen Dec 2019 #131
Its not just the number of Bernie voters who switched to Trump. honest.abe Dec 2019 #138
"Might" - it is poor strategy to actively alienate voters now redqueen Dec 2019 #143
Ok how about very good possibility? honest.abe Dec 2019 #168
Even if he does the exact same thing redqueen Dec 2019 #180
I dont know why you keep bringing up Hillary and Obama 2008?? honest.abe Dec 2019 #204
Because it makes no sense to me to hold Bernie to a higher standard. redqueen Dec 2019 #207
There is no comparison so there is no standard. honest.abe Dec 2019 #209
Thank you!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #306
... lapucelle Dec 2019 #176
Seemed or Seems like many Sanders supporters are Pro-Bernie MarcA Dec 2019 #196
I'm very suspicious of those numbers. I don't know a single HRC supporter who didn't vote for Obama LisaM Dec 2019 #254
Whatever the reason, it shows how ridiculous all the continuing effort to blame Bernie is. redqueen Dec 2019 #258
She has an opinion, she was asked about it, and she gave an answer. ehrnst Dec 2019 #279
Which is why it's smart not to give them the ammo, redqueen Dec 2019 #284
Well, if one considers a woman speaking her mind about a man when asked "ammo," ehrnst Dec 2019 #324
The national press secretary for the BS campaign lapucelle Dec 2019 #177
Hopefully not, since it is not just two people treestar Dec 2019 #232
Oh God here we go again redqueen Dec 2019 #4
She was asked a question and she answered it. She didn't bring it up herself. George II Dec 2019 #6
She didn't have to answer it that way. redqueen Dec 2019 #7
she answered truthfully... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #12
It's what they did before. It's what they'll do again. redqueen Dec 2019 #21
disagree... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #25
I'm discussing another possible mistake by Clinton. redqueen Dec 2019 #151
He won't be the nominee. Not even close. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #215
Other Democratic politicians are praised for negative statments about other Democratic politicians ehrnst Dec 2019 #270
It depends? redqueen Dec 2019 #276
I see? ehrnst Dec 2019 #278
Ha true. For some people, Hillary criticizing Bernie over this is fine and dandy. redqueen Dec 2019 #283
No, not really. ehrnst Dec 2019 #325
+10000 BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #285
Six of one, half dozen of the other. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #326
Apparently she's supposed to keep her mouth shut about what she observed in the last election. ehrnst Dec 2019 #268
You think she should have lied? LisaM Dec 2019 #26
Clever politicians customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #34
She's not a candidate. LisaM Dec 2019 #130
The "other" candidates customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #145
To those who think she should disappear, any public utterance is "putting herself in the spotlight." ehrnst Dec 2019 #282
NO.. it does NOT sound "whiny".. not to those who appreciate Cha Dec 2019 #139
Faux Snooze customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #156
You Don't Get It. I don't give a shite about faux. I care about Cha Dec 2019 #163
Yes, it's true customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #167
Yes.. It's the Truth and it helps out the Democratic Party Cha Dec 2019 #174
Those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #272
I would posit that there are Dem politicians who are expending far, far more energy ehrnst Dec 2019 #271
Best thing to do is to rationalize being disingenuous. Spot on job! LanternWaste Dec 2019 #229
"Whiny?" Really? DU is full of posts praising Democratic politicians who seek out the spotlight ehrnst Dec 2019 #269
It was a long, involved interview. Why was only that line lifted from it? George II Dec 2019 #28
because The Hill does this to Democrats. yes. they do. riversedge Dec 2019 #57
So true... same can be said about Hillary's mulling a THIRD run, BASED ON HER OWN WORDS. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #60
Well one poll I saw had 91% of respondents AGAINST her jumping in. redqueen Dec 2019 #72
You never legitimately heard about it to begin with. StevieM Dec 2019 #77
This is why so many people hate politicians. redqueen Dec 2019 #80
You are chosing to intrepret her words in a way that allows you to criticize her. StevieM Dec 2019 #91
I'm highlighting what makes her answer unclear. Noncommittal. redqueen Dec 2019 #106
"that is absolutely not in my plans" TwilightZone Dec 2019 #115
Only if you ignore all the other words around that phrase. redqueen Dec 2019 #117
It's no different in context. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #140
We know how the press works. So does she. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #153
They're you go again... citing facts... Hillary's own words!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #144
And she has some doozies. But surely none of that contributed to her loss. redqueen Dec 2019 #155
LOL!! Of course, it's ALWAYS Bernie's fault!! Who else could be responsible?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #159
I have said many times that I don't blame Bernie or Hillary for our loss. StevieM Dec 2019 #172
Oh please. Full blown CDS. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #216
She's a brilliant, accomplished woman with LOTS to say, and she's free to do whatever she wants. George II Dec 2019 #83
Are you really still on this? StevieM Dec 2019 #89
How should she have answered it? mcar Dec 2019 #82
'All that is in the past, there's no reason to rehash issues from past elections. redqueen Dec 2019 #84
She's issuing a warning mcar Dec 2019 #88
And if she didn't say anything, people would be demanding to know "Where is Hillary?!" StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #97
She's a woman in the public eye - damned if she does, damned if she doesn't mcar Dec 2019 #99
A warning about what? redqueen Dec 2019 #104
That it might happen again mcar Dec 2019 #105
And do you really think Bernie's supporters not voting for Hillary redqueen Dec 2019 #108
Yes mcar Dec 2019 #118
+1! honest.abe Dec 2019 #128
Note the goalposts were moved mcar Dec 2019 #133
12% of Bernie's supporters (all if not most were Repubs) voted for Trump. redqueen Dec 2019 #129
Moving the goalposts mcar Dec 2019 #132
I'm not agreeing that it was. I just addressed what you provided redqueen Dec 2019 #136
I gave you facts mcar Dec 2019 #141
I quoted them. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #154
Thank you for the FACTS, mcar.. time to move Cha Dec 2019 #169
I feel like facts are important, Cha mcar Dec 2019 #188
Yes. To this day you have them claiming the DNC rigged treestar Dec 2019 #233
Sanders doesn't deserve all the blame. Donna Brazile flat out said it was rigged. redqueen Dec 2019 #235
... lapucelle Dec 2019 #178
Hillary's not allowed to talk StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #61
Reductio ad absurdum. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #73
And, tell the TRUTH! Cha Dec 2019 #170
Asked and Answered with the Truth. And, that Cha Dec 2019 #8
Disagree. redqueen Dec 2019 #10
I appreciate that Hillary spoke the truth. Cha Dec 2019 #13
Me too!! Voters need to be aware! Especially since we may be headed in the same direction Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #51
Yes, not the time for sweeping anything Cha Dec 2019 #56
A better way is possible? mcar Dec 2019 #85
The same standard as Buttigieg redqueen Dec 2019 #103
And that is how many of us remember it PatSeg Dec 2019 #15
Of course! Speaking of "Divisiveness". Cha Dec 2019 #23
+1 JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #27
I view this as much different than the Gabbard comments. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #33
Obviously not... why the divisiveness? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #47
Yes... even though it doesn't. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #203
Ha! That's exactly what I said when BS announced he was running again! Amimnoch Dec 2019 #224
I have no trouble with Hillary's comments Gothmog Dec 2019 #331
what is the point of regurgitating these fractious right wing hit pieces? getagrip_already Dec 2019 #5
To not to repeat the same mistakes made in 2016. honest.abe Dec 2019 #9
This kind of thing INCREASES the likelihood of a repeat. redqueen Dec 2019 #11
and thats why he should drop out.... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #17
That won't help. redqueen Dec 2019 #63
I dont see it that way. honest.abe Dec 2019 #20
Clinton's comment will be used to peel off Dem votes. redqueen Dec 2019 #65
Precisely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #147
Only if sanders is the nominee Gothmog Dec 2019 #201
Then he should get his supporters in line. StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #66
Herding cats redqueen Dec 2019 #74
I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Dec 2019 #275
Hearsay is dangerous. redqueen Dec 2019 #277
sanders refused to try to control his delegates and so DNC had to use Sarah Silverman/Al Franken Gothmog Dec 2019 #298
Nothing from thad link backs your assertion. redqueen Dec 2019 #299
I was at the convention and I know what I saw Gothmog Dec 2019 #300
I live in a red area and the 'real democrats' here redqueen Dec 2019 #302
Which state convention? Gothmog Dec 2019 #304
2016 redqueen Dec 2019 #311
The facility was terrible and there were a ton of issues Gothmog Dec 2019 #315
Gothmog was there mcar Dec 2019 #305
He literally just said that someone told him Bernie did something. redqueen Dec 2019 #313
Are you a member of the bar? Gothmog Dec 2019 #314
. redqueen Dec 2019 #316
So you are not a member of the bar Gothmog Dec 2019 #317
You heard someone say Bernie said something. redqueen Dec 2019 #318
If you were a member of the bat, you would know how amusing this objection is Gothmog Dec 2019 #319
The hearsay objection does not apply Gothmog Dec 2019 #332
Riiight.. BS hired jill stein pushers and voters for his top Cha Dec 2019 #86
Tell me, Cha - why is Bernie held to a higher standard? redqueen Dec 2019 #164
I don't hold BS to a "higher standard". Cha Dec 2019 #171
Nice try. No one has been held to a higher standard than Hillary Clinton. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #219
Amen Gothmog Dec 2019 #301
Yep mcar Dec 2019 #157
+1 betsuni Dec 2019 #158
Exactly, honest.abe. It's the truth and some Cha Dec 2019 #16
It really scares me that it might happen again... honest.abe Dec 2019 #31
I know.. it's always Cha Dec 2019 #38
+1000 Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #59
Yep mcar Dec 2019 #90
Point 1: A. Clinton interview is newsworthy... brooklynite Dec 2019 #14
there are links to the full article in rolling stone. just post that. getagrip_already Dec 2019 #22
I guess I could have gone with the NBC News version... brooklynite Dec 2019 #36
Is this real Cole483rn13 Dec 2019 #18
Are you serious with this? tymorial Dec 2019 #24
If he's the nominee we have 4 more years of Trump to look forward to. djg21 Dec 2019 #49
Opinions obviously vary on that. LesterT Dec 2019 #181
He was not the nominee in 2016 mcar Dec 2019 #189
That's True. LesterT Dec 2019 #191
4 million voters thought differently mcar Dec 2019 #192
Obviously I disagree. LesterT Dec 2019 #195
uh huh.. Cha Dec 2019 #262
Hmm. LesterT Dec 2019 #263
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #264
Hmm. LesterT Dec 2019 #265
Wrong answer. nt greyl Dec 2019 #266
NO Excuses! Cha Dec 2019 #41
Was it Jane Sanders who said on election eve, "The important thing oasis Dec 2019 #110
So helpful in the most important election of our lives Cha Dec 2019 #119
Not much of a ringing endorsement of Hillary from the camp oasis Dec 2019 #135
Yeah.. Cha Dec 2019 #142
Did you even watch the convention... radical noodle Dec 2019 #52
I was there Gothmog Dec 2019 #199
It was disgraceful! radical noodle Dec 2019 #238
It was not a fun experience Gothmog Dec 2019 #333
He should have supported her like Hillary did for Obama in 08 Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #64
Agreed Gothmog Dec 2019 #335
My wife listened to the interview today in bits and pieces tymorial Dec 2019 #19
Good to know.. thanks, tymorial! Cha Dec 2019 #32
I want to watch this interview Gothmog Dec 2019 #42
I listened all morning sobenji Dec 2019 #79
I'm with her! NT TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #29
Hillary's remark was harmless ritapria Dec 2019 #30
me too... samnsara Dec 2019 #37
I was a delegate to the National Convention Gothmog Dec 2019 #39
Your stories of what happened are chilling, Gothmog mcar Dec 2019 #92
The conduct of the sanders delegates at the convention hurt the Clinton general election effort Gothmog Dec 2019 #200
Why is Hillary still re-hashing the last election? JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #43
Hillary was asked a question by Stern and told Cha Dec 2019 #45
Hillary is still fighting the last election. We don't even want DUers to keep it up. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #53
Hillary tells it like it is when asked a question by Stern. Cha Dec 2019 #62
+1 Kurt V. Dec 2019 #76
If she posts her complaints here you can alert on them... sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #187
Fuck that. She should do whatever the fuck she wants. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #217
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Dec 2019 #273
Lol. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #312
Would be nice!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #50
Good question. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #67
Because he's making the same noises this time! Says he doesn't know if he will support EW if Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #70
When did he say that? Source? nt redqueen Dec 2019 #75
+1 JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #96
Not sure about Bernie, but of course some of his supporters say that. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #218
She shouldn't have answered the question? mcar Dec 2019 #95
Hillary should have made a positive statement about all our candidates instead. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #100
Why? mcar Dec 2019 #102
It's not my job to "whitewash" her statement. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #109
It's not her job to whitewash his behavior. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #240
... mcar Dec 2019 #123
Hillary thanks you for the mansplanation, but StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #111
Some just can't stand not being able to silence her. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #220
No! She has more voice than you and I ever will. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #241
"Maybe. But that is pure speculation." LanternWaste Dec 2019 #242
True. Thanks! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #246
Telling her what she should say with that voice is the same as trying to silence her. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #247
Here is a good reason Gothmog Dec 2019 #334
How weird... Mike Nelson Dec 2019 #44
Things like that reveal more about the endorser than the endorsee, no matter who he (or she) may be. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #46
Beyond disappointed liberal N proud Dec 2019 #55
Yes, Sanders' slow begrudging endorsement is why Sander is still on my S---List Darwin2019 Dec 2019 #58
She is 100% correct mcar Dec 2019 #68
this really pisses me off. not to mention her utter lack of cognition about what happened Kurt V. Dec 2019 #69
Lack of cognition? redqueen Dec 2019 #78
no. not if she is blaming sanders for her lose. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #81
I don't blame Sanders, the Russians or Hillary. StevieM Dec 2019 #98
It was a combination.. how can Cha Dec 2019 #148
I don't disagree that she told the truth. StevieM Dec 2019 #165
Her "lose"? BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #286
Aren't you a big deal.. telling "Hillary to stfu".. Cha Dec 2019 #94
I'm a bit partial to sanders so i might have been harsh. but a howard stern interview? lol. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #289
Did you just tell our most recent Democratic nominee to STFU? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #116
Why yes he did.. he must be so proud of himself. Only Cha Dec 2019 #125
i don't do cult of personality. how many times i gotta say this? Kurt V. Dec 2019 #290
"her utter lack of cognition about what happened with the Russian crap" betsuni Dec 2019 #122
What on earth are you talking about? TwilightZone Dec 2019 #124
Away with your STFU mcar Dec 2019 #160
There it is. "STFU". MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #221
so thick you could cut it with a knife... quickesst Dec 2019 #93
It will happen again. betsuni Dec 2019 #107
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #121
his external supporters and paid goons will try and do it again, all the signs are there Celerity Dec 2019 #161
Quick complaining and living in the past. Joe941 Dec 2019 #134
Hillary was asked a question by Stern and told the TRUTH.. Cha Dec 2019 #146
Stop refighting the 2016 primary, Hillary. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #149
Hillary was commenting on the 2016 GENERAL election. nt oasis Dec 2019 #173
No, she wanted him to endorse her sooner -- during the primary. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #175
"I hope he doesn't do it again to whoever gets the nomination" oasis Dec 2019 #179
If that were true then she should have been fine with Bernie's endorsement aikoaiko Dec 2019 #182
He endorsed her before her convention but after all the primaries played out karynnj Dec 2019 #257
Thank you for the explanation. oasis Dec 2019 #260
No, she wanted him to endorse her after the primary. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #183
But the last primary election was held on June 14th so the primaries were over. betsuni Dec 2019 #190
Sure, but the convention wasn't until 7/25 and he endorsed on 7/12 aikoaiko Dec 2019 #193
She wanted him to recognize her victory, the same way he recognized Obama's LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #281
Yep. He sat on his ass for a month. calimary Dec 2019 #293
Do whatever the fuck you want Hillary. You've earned it. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #222
I'm sure picking at old scabs will help us in 2020. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #250
Scabs would assume there was healing. As long as Trump is in office there will be no healing. n/t seaglass Dec 2019 #256
Do you know how interviews work? BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #287
He hurt all of us Hillary, thanks for reminding us. nt BootinUp Dec 2019 #150
Bernie endorsed her 2 weeks before the convention. CentralMass Dec 2019 #185
She clinched the nomination on June 6th TwilightZone Dec 2019 #186
Which was way too late. honest.abe Dec 2019 #210
The primary was effectively over in March...nt SidDithers Dec 2019 #211
Way too little too late. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #223
These are some sour grapes n/t Devil Child Dec 2019 #194
I hope sanders doesn't respond. JudyM Dec 2019 #197
I share your hopes JudyM, nothing good comes from refighting the '16 primaries Devil Child Dec 2019 #198
Big time. Par for the course though Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #225
Why on earth would Hillary Clinton want to participate in an interview with Howard Stern? democrank Dec 2019 #202
Because he has a huge national audience. djg21 Dec 2019 #205
Being able to ignore misogynists doesnt make them magically not misogynistic redqueen Dec 2019 #206
I hope people saw the ENTIRE interview this morning or the extended excerpts.... George II Dec 2019 #208
+1 MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #226
If Sanders had given Clinton his immediate and enthusiastic support and urged his supporters to Doodley Dec 2019 #228
Or not. Many of his supporters who voted Trump were republicans. redqueen Dec 2019 #231
Oh come on! The margin of victory was less than 2% in six states. Doodley Dec 2019 #234
Hillary had less influence over her McCain voters - so again, redqueen Dec 2019 #236
The only standard is Democratic candidates should lose gracefully and unequivocally back the winner. Doodley Dec 2019 #239
This +1 LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #244
Agreed LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #243
No. That would require ignoring the previous 30 years of history booley Dec 2019 #321
I'm still fuming over it. grossproffit Dec 2019 #237
Every time I see or hear about Bernie I puke a little bit in my mouth. fleabiscuit Dec 2019 #245
+1 this! MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #248
I hear ya, flea.. Cha Dec 2019 #261
Past is prologue, unless we learn from it. I hope very much that Sanders learned about unity... Hekate Dec 2019 #249
I doubt it. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #251
Probably a big factor in Wisconsin underpants Dec 2019 #252
Need to make sure THIS BS doesn't happen again! democratisphere Dec 2019 #253
I am, too. I haven't forgotten, Bernie. calimary Dec 2019 #255
Thare are a large number of real democrats who will not forget or forgive Gothmog Dec 2019 #274
I'm only gonna vote for him if I have to. calimary Dec 2019 #292
I will vote for the nominee of the party Gothmog Dec 2019 #308
I'm not 'disappointed' NYMinute Dec 2019 #259
I agree with her assessment, and admire her restraint. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #267
he did 17 rallies for her in 10 days, went to states she took for granted booley Dec 2019 #288
Bernie Sanders was a man who ran a bad campaign who lost and tried to have a brokered convention. boston bean Dec 2019 #294
She took no state for granted. StevieM Dec 2019 #295
Wisconsin booley Dec 2019 #320
At the high end, maybe 12% of Sanders supporters voted Trump, almost a quarter of Clinton supporters Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #296
It is true that some Hillary Clinton supporters ended up voting for McCain in 2008 Sloumeau Dec 2019 #323
In the the same article I linked, it showed the same pattern, apparently over half the Sanders... Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #328
It's ironic we arent suppose to relive the 2016 debacle, but... Joe941 Dec 2019 #297
So am I... Pachamama Dec 2019 #303
This is exactly why I am so anti-Bernie this time around, after voting for him in 2016. Chemisse Dec 2019 #307
We shouldn't even be in that position; he should not have been allowed to run as a Democrat LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #309
Exactly. He should have stayed out this time and worked quietly to help MH1 Dec 2019 #310
I'm still disappointed as well, Hillary. Sloumeau Dec 2019 #322
I don't think an endorsement by Sanders would have gained her any votes doc03 Dec 2019 #327
If it had come right after the primaries, with a genuine effort to get behind the candidate, LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #336
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