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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:21 PM Dec 2019

If any media outlet is surprised at Bernie's support in states such as Kentucky... [View all]

...they must have slept through 2015-2016. Or they're just stupid.

In general in 2016, Sanders did best in states with less diversity. The 2016 Democratic Primary in Kentucky was incredibly close (probably the closest contest of all) in spite of taking place well after the race had been decided back on Super Tuesday. Leave it to members of the MSM to take reality and flip it on its head. To suggest that Sanders having a "surprising" level of support in a state such as Kentucky is proof that he's a serious contender is the exact opposite takeaway one should possess. "Hi, I'm a member of the media and it's my job to get you, the viewer, to believe the exact opposite of what's real." Ugh.

Sanders is at his ceiling of support. He has a loyal and substantial following, but it's not going to grow much, if at all. He's a known quantity. After New Hampshire, the race is basically over for Sanders.

The main thing Sanders is accomplishing is shrinking the electorate. He's locked up a large, cult-like following, which means the rest of the field is competing for the remaining 80-85% of the electorate. That's 1 of 2 factors that's had a major impact on this race. The other is the size of the field--most people aren't inclined to bother distinguishing between 20+ candidates they've never heard of, which is to the benefit of those with the most name recognition. Had the field never been larger than 7-8 candidates and had Sanders not run, we'd be looking at a totally different dynamic--and probably a much different result.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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I'm not worried about states after New Hampshire JonLP24 Dec 2019 #1
I'm not a big Biden fan but he's a serious contender. Sanders isn't and never was. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #2
We will see JonLP24 Dec 2019 #3
Shrinking the electorate and setting us up to lose. MH1 Dec 2019 #4
Time will tell. I would hope he'll drop out (and endorse the nominee) sooner this time around. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #5
Well there are quite a few behind him and I don't see them dropping out anytime soon. vsrazdem Dec 2019 #9
I'm not talking about dropping out now. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #10
I guess you should direct that at Mayor Pete then. vsrazdem Dec 2019 #12
I've said that I think Buttigieg's alienation of Black folks will doom his campaign. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #13
IMO it will not be Buttigieg. He has been running for another job ever since he was elected Mayor. vsrazdem Dec 2019 #14
He's been mayor for 7 years. That's quite a while. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #15
Spot on. I'd rec your response if i could. -nt. Amimnoch Dec 2019 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #6
Sanders undoubtedly has a good deal of support in Kentucky. Here are the 2016 primary results: Garrett78 Dec 2019 #8
K&R NYMinute Dec 2019 #11
Sometimes, yes. In this case, I think it's just CNN being ignorant. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #19
K&R betsuni Dec 2019 #16
of course... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #17
No, it isn't growing, and that's the point. KY is precisely the type of state... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #18
His support IS growing! floppyboo Dec 2019 #21
and just gotta add this bit about older demographics: floppyboo Dec 2019 #22
more #'s 4 U: floppyboo Dec 2019 #23
Even if an increase in youth turnout went 100% to Sanders, which it wouldn't... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #24
... NYMinute Dec 2019 #20
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