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In reply to the discussion: A compilation of oppo research on Bernie Sanders [View all]Gothmog
(175,340 posts)20. The material above is not the trump oppo file
Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long gameattacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of colorfor example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for herClinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
The OP may be stuff that the Clinton campaign had but did not use against sanders
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Some amazing, and surprising, little nuggets in that document. A must read....
George II
Dec 2019
#1
I don't think anybody is stopping oppo research on any of the candidates you mention...
George II
Dec 2019
#7
It's called the "Bernie Standard," which, as the name implies, doesn't apply to other candidates...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#51
As in, Steve Bannon's folder on him was allegedly four volumes, each several inches thick (nt)
Recursion
Dec 2019
#14
With videos of a number of lectures by sanders that would make great attack ads
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#17
If sanders was the nominee, trump would run ads using this and other oppo on sanders
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#99
Yup. And being able to say "I told you so" would be absolutely no consolation.
SunSeeker
Dec 2019
#36
More importantly, Mack didn't compile that Sanders document. It came from the 2016 Clinton campaign.
thesquanderer
Dec 2019
#15
Those ads will lose their punch when juxtaposed to ads with Trump and Putin
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 2019
#28
Thanks for posting -- some people are deluded into a cult like blind following nt
NYMinute
Dec 2019
#27
This material is only the material gathered by the Clinton campaign three years ago
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#33
So not true! Joe would lose @least 40+ states which is why Bernie's the 1 keepin Dolt45 up at night
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#52
Well it's good to know we can now go back any number of years in vetting Joe under this new standard
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#54
Biden has quite likely been vetted more than any other candidate this cycle.
TwilightZone
Dec 2019
#67
So all family is fair game in vetting candidates?? That's the standard now?!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#56
Based on the number of mentions, it's clear the candidate whom they most fear will win is Bernie!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2019
#63
The information in this memorandum was gathered in 2016 but not used because sanders was no threat
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#104
LOL-that is because this is oppo gathered by the Clinton campaign during the 2016 race
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#103
I wish we could concentrate on beating Trump rather than trying to take down
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#87
Some of this stuff is really old - how far should we go back when we vet someone?
FM123
Dec 2019
#92
This material was used at the time to discourage sanders supporters from voting
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#141
Somebody is verrrrry afraid of Bernie Sanders and his strong base of supporters
StrictlyRockers
Dec 2019
#95
Bernie's enthusiastic supporters can only vote once, and there aren't enough of them...
NurseJackie
Dec 2019
#120
I really wish that Hillary Clinton had not taken a kid gloves approach with sanders
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#101