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UPDATE! Fred Guttenberg: "I absolutely cannot support @BernieSanders [View all]	Cha	Dec 2019	OP
Mahalo, Fred Guttenberg..	Cha	Dec 2019	#1
+10000	Pachamama	Dec 2019	#103
Mahalo to you, Pachamama!	Cha	Jan 2020	#146
Happy New Year Cha!	Pachamama	Jan 2020	#154
Excellent wish for	Cha	Jan 2020	#157
Needless to say, he presses the issue. 😂	TheBlackAdder	Jan 2020	#191
Right	Cha	Feb 2020	#238
Good points. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2019	#2
Mr Guttenberg is determined..	Cha	Dec 2019	#4
Mr. Gutenberg is correct. That is indeed a RW/NRA gun lobby talking-point.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#6
Fred Guttenberg has called out Sanders before..	Cha	Dec 2019	#14
Apparently Fred Gutenberg is making a lot of BS supporters a little testy...	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#16
A little?	ehrnst	Dec 2019	#136
To be honest with you... a different word came to mind...	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#137
I'm not a Bernie supporter	The Mouth	Dec 2019	#140
Many people share your feelings.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#141
I don't care if they do or not	The Mouth	Jan 2020	#144
The more who care and share... the better odds we have that Trump won't pick any more USSC justices.	NurseJackie	Jan 2020	#167
Fred Guttenberg is talking about the Primary.	Cha	Jan 2020	#175
Good	The Mouth	Jan 2020	#176
Maybe reread his tweet. He is not supporting Bernie in the primary.	emmaverybo	Jan 2020	#226
That's too bad.. I stand with Fred Guttenberg.	Cha	Jan 2020	#148
In case anyone didn't know who Fred Guttenberg is:	George II	Dec 2019	#3
More from Fred Guttenberg on Sanders..	Cha	Dec 2019	#5
The families and friends of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting were also disrespected by Sanders	George II	Dec 2019	#10
I remember that.. unthinkable what	Cha	Dec 2019	#15
Disqualifying.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#22
An update from FG.. which comes as no surprise whatsoever..	Cha	Jan 2020	#158
Yes, not surprising whatsoever.	George II	Jan 2020	#159
In fact.. PREDICTABLE.	Cha	Jan 2020	#162
Those comments were crude and woefully ill-informed. He's sidestepping.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#60
Tone deaf.	Cha	Dec 2019	#71
Jaime.	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#8
Beautiful family, she! Thank you so much for their pic!	Cha	Dec 2019	#38
Fred sure wishes we didnt know who he is, as in if this didnt happen in the first place his	Eliot Rosewater	Dec 2019	#46
Amen.	George II	Dec 2019	#49
Exactly	Cha	Feb 2020	#239
Cha, thanks for posting this.	Sloumeau	Dec 2019	#7
...	Cha	Jan 2020	#150
I Fixed the "Chambi". I have no idea where that came from. I blame possessed autocorrect. :) eom	Sloumeau	Jan 2020	#151
It's quite alright. I	Cha	Jan 2020	#155
Sirota is being an asshole again.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#9
Reality is starting to set in with some in the Sanders campaign leadership team	BannonsLiver	Dec 2019	#21
I wish!	Cha	Jan 2020	#188
+1	Cha	Feb 2020	#233
Fred Guttenberg..	Cha	Feb 2020	#252
Yes, Fred Guttenberg does have excellent reasons	Cha	Jan 2020	#178
I am shocked to see David Sirota accusing Guttenberg of hating Bernie.	Sloumeau	Dec 2019	#11
yeah.. that's the only go to they have.. when	Cha	Jan 2020	#180
Remind me again why i would support a candidate who hires Briana Joy Gray and David Sirota?	still_one	Dec 2019	#12
This.	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#13
Mahalo for the pic of Jaime & her father, Fred.. here's an update	Cha	Jan 2020	#164
This is disgusting.	sheshe2	Jan 2020	#165
And this is why I can't support you, Fred Guttenberg.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#17
That sounds punitive nt	Cary	Dec 2019	#18
Punitive isn't the word I'd have chosen... but it's safe.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#19
Is Guttenberg running for something?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#23
No, but he's pushing for gun control laws.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#25
Bernie Sanders and the Brady Bill... a review.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#28
Bernie supports nearly all of what Guttenberg supports these days.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#35
Define "nearly"	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#39
I don't have much time for this, but here you go.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#55
I trust Fred Guttenberg to know what he's talking about..	Cha	Dec 2019	#77
trust through tweets.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#78
Keep laughing.. Fred Guttenberg is exaclty right about BS..	Cha	Dec 2019	#118
As absurd as mistrust through tweets	LanternWaste	Jan 2020	#161
thank you!	Cha	Jan 2020	#207
"Nearly"?	Cha	Jan 2020	#217
Very glad he has evolved.	betsuni	Dec 2019	#119
But rogan says BS is "insanely consistent".	Cha	Jan 2020	#213
People who say that don't want to think of Bernie as a politician.	betsuni	Jan 2020	#215
Or the dreaded "Establishment"	Cha	Jan 2020	#225
I trust Fred Guttenberg on this.. not BS.	Cha	Jan 2020	#189
He's a guy expressing his opinion. He is free to do that.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#29
Of course he can. So can I about his opinions and politics.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#32
Sure, but he doesn't deserve to be trashed by a dishonest, vindictive bombthrower	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#33
Exactly.	Cha	Feb 2020	#243
So you would punish him for not being for Bernie Sanders	Cary	Dec 2019	#34
Its not that he doesn't support Bernie, its the framing that Bernie is opposed to gun safety laws	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#36
I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you did not refute my summary	Cary	Dec 2019	#123
You don't have to give me the benefit of the doubt.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#124
I don't have to do anything	Cary	Dec 2019	#129
Fred Guttenberg knows BS' record.	Cha	Jan 2020	#212
I CLEARLY see the difference aikoaiko... so do others. The problem is, this involves Bernie...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2020	#202
Fred Guttenberg doesn't want Sanders to be the nom.. I agree.	Cha	Feb 2020	#248
Fred Guttenberg doesn't like BS' past	Cha	Feb 2020	#230
Express away.. I'll take Fred Guttenberg's opinion	Cha	Jan 2020	#193
Who famously said:	George II	Dec 2019	#45
That's probably why he didn't say that death in VT is not the same thing as death in LA or Chicago	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#68
"Guns in Vermont Are Not the Same Thing As Guns in Chicago or Guns in Los Angeles"	Cha	Jan 2020	#192
Bernie has not always been good on guns...why wouldn't Guttenberg be honest? And the GOP	Demsrule86	Dec 2019	#65
Thank you.	Paka	Dec 2019	#81
if bernie wants to point to one staged pic from 50 year ago to prove	mopinko	Dec 2019	#111
+1	betsuni	Dec 2019	#115
There are 2 falsehoods in your post. Guess which ones	scipan	Dec 2019	#125
are you calling me a liar?	mopinko	Dec 2019	#135
You posted something that is not close to accurate.	Hassin Bin Sober	Dec 2019	#138
No there are NOT.	Cha	Jan 2020	#218
+1	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#127
Then I guess we can forget dad, he only lost his baby girl.	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#37
Yes I do support gun control, but I wouldn't do it by smearing Bernie as anti-gun safety.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#41
Fred Guttenberg does Not "smear" BS..	Cha	Dec 2019	#50
I keep waiting for that old worn-out chestnut: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#51
Good for Fred Guttenberg calling out BS for his avoiding	Cha	Dec 2019	#61
Everyone who is serious about reducing gun violence is also talking about mental health treatment	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#52
But that's Not all they should be	Cha	Jan 2020	#149
And Bernie isn't only talking about mental health in the context of gun violence.	aikoaiko	Jan 2020	#153
BS did then and that was Fred	Cha	Jan 2020	#156
I do not see a smear.	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#53
Where's the smear? He said only that he won't support Bernie	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#59
The smear is that Bernie doesn't care about gun safety.	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#64
BS' voting record is open to the public	Cha	Jan 2020	#206
That's exactly true!	Cha	Dec 2019	#116
Not supporting BS's stance on gun control	MontanaMama	Dec 2019	#105
Yes!	betsuni	Dec 2019	#109
This message was self-deleted by its author	aikoaiko	Dec 2019	#114
They blow it up with their accusations..	Cha	Dec 2019	#117
Precisely, MontanaMama..	Cha	Feb 2020	#253
"They can't stop us"??? Who the eff is THEY?	MontanaMama	Feb 2020	#254
yeah.. not good	Cha	Feb 2020	#255
Someone recently told me...	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#44
Sigh	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#128
Good time to kick this	Cha	Feb 2020	#234
Is Fred Guttenberg running for office?	TexasTowelie	Dec 2019	#43
And, this is WHY I Do Support Fred Guttenberg FOR	Cha	Dec 2019	#48
I'm guessing Fred Guttenberg doesn't care.	Cha	Jan 2020	#179
We Support Fred Guttenberg.	Cha	Jan 2020	#196
Imagine being a speechwriter/journalist who doesn't know	pnwmom	Dec 2019	#20
Oh, he knows. He just doesn't care.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#24
"I absolutely cannot support @BernieSanders"	myohmy2	Dec 2019	#26
Guttenberg isn't posting on DU. He opposes Sanders as a primary candidate,	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#30
That's not what he said.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#31
Thank you!!!	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#42
Yeah, you "think" on that and get it Straight what Fred	Cha	Dec 2019	#57
"Yeah, you "think" on that..."	myohmy2	Dec 2019	#97
Keeping thinking..	Cha	Dec 2019	#98
False premise	LongtimeAZDem	Jan 2020	#169
Yes, but haven't you heard?! When it comes to BERNIE, an entirely different standard applies!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2020	#204
I stand with Fred	handmade34	Dec 2019	#27
Kind of a silly place to be standing...	Chicago1980	Dec 2019	#87
That makes 2 of us.	orangecrush	Dec 2019	#40
I disagree with Bernie on some gun issues.	Tiggeroshii	Dec 2019	#47
Fred Guttenberg wants what's	Cha	Jan 2020	#143
DU rec...nt	SidDithers	Dec 2019	#54
"By the way, remind me again, is Bernie a Democrat or an independent?"	PJMcK	Dec 2019	#56
Well... there's this.	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#63
Nothing else is needed	Zeus69	Dec 2019	#89
Oh, there's more. There's a clip (a debate? a town-hall?) where he's...	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#95
Thanks for posting this, Cha! K&R!	highplainsdem	Dec 2019	#58
Bernie has been fighting the good fight for over 50 years	ritapria	Dec 2019	#62
+1	Paka	Dec 2019	#85
Wow all the Bernie bashers together in one thread!	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2019	#66
NO.. all those Supporting Fred Guttenberg's Fight For	Cha	Dec 2019	#73
So, Mr. Guttenberg,	guillaumeb	Dec 2019	#67
Ask him again if he actually becomes our party's nominee...	NurseJackie	Dec 2019	#72
fred is a one issue activist. Understandably so. he's a hero of mine which is very few.	Kurt V.	Dec 2019	#69
Because a person has an issue that they see as most important doesn't	Blue_true	Dec 2019	#99
Exactly. So no one can dismiss it .. as	Cha	Dec 2019	#107
Cha, you seem to be fully aware of the double standard that is used	Blue_true	Dec 2019	#133
Fred Guttenberg most certainly is	Cha	Dec 2019	#108
K&R! nt	TexasTowelie	Dec 2019	#70
gee, another trumpster's opinion, who cares? nt	yaesu	Dec 2019	#74
The guy loaths Trump.	Blue_true	Dec 2019	#100
I hope he would support Bernie over...	JoeOtterbein	Dec 2019	#75
That's Not what he's saying.. this is the Primary.	Cha	Dec 2019	#76
This is from Fred's tweet:	JoeOtterbein	Dec 2019	#79
Too bad.. Fred Guttenberg is telling why he doesn't BS	Cha	Dec 2019	#82
I have no clue how you are reading that as a threat.	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#131
Yeah, that wasn't a nice way to describe	Cha	Dec 2019	#132
IKR?!	sheshe2	Dec 2019	#134
Perfectly said, she!	Cha	Jan 2020	#142
Only if sanders is the nominee	Gothmog	Dec 2019	#94
Distortion much.	Blue_true	Dec 2019	#101
Hope youre right, but then its Bernie we're talkin bout;would be a shame, but not a surprise if PUMA	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2020	#205
Okay...	Rob WA	Dec 2019	#80
The kind of bullshit argument we don't need.	Chicago1980	Dec 2019	#83
Fred Guttenberg is talking about the Primary..	Cha	Dec 2019	#96
This is the Primary! IT's Not Fred Guttenberg	Cha	Jan 2020	#199
You can't win them back. You can't. So stop saying that Bernie can.	paleotn	Dec 2019	#84
Please someone fill me in on what and which GOP voters Bernie can woo? Every puke I know is hair on	UniteFightBack	Dec 2019	#86
The First of Many	McKim	Dec 2019	#88
Parkland was totally negligent.....stop blaming Bernie Sanders!!	skh500	Dec 2019	#90
I strongly disagree	Gothmog	Dec 2019	#93
Bernie needs to answer for his past votes on gun legistlation.	Blue_true	Dec 2019	#102
Shame on you.. Fred Guttenberg did NOT say	Cha	Dec 2019	#110
Well, yeah, he kind of did:	LongtimeAZDem	Jan 2020	#171
I truly admire and respect Fred Guttenberg	Gothmog	Dec 2019	#91
GRRRRR	Me.	Dec 2019	#92
There are certainly reasons to not support Bernie	TheFarseer	Dec 2019	#104
Fred Guttenberg does his homework..	Cha	Dec 2019	#106
K&R	betsuni	Dec 2019	#112
I'm with Fred. n/t	Tarheel_Dem	Dec 2019	#113
K&R	brer cat	Dec 2019	#120
With various possible reasons and not recognizing his name,	Hortensis	Dec 2019	#121
David Sirota just loves to be spanked n/t	PhoenixDem	Dec 2019	#122
sirota is a divider..	Cha	Dec 2019	#130
..	Cha	Jan 2020	#183
Yeah, well, neither can I... in the primary.	LakeArenal	Dec 2019	#126
As will I; though if it comes to that, we'll likely lose the whole thing	LongtimeAZDem	Jan 2020	#170
Fuck. You. Fred.	The Mouth	Dec 2019	#139
Really?	MrsCoffee	Jan 2020	#145
I am presuming he means in the GENERAL election	The Mouth	Jan 2020	#147
I understand and support Fred Guttenberg	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#152
Fred is not alone.	R B Garr	Jan 2020	#160
A response from Fred Guttenberg	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#163
Don't see too many lectures in here.	redqueen	Jan 2020	#166
I really think that the attacks on Mr Guttenberg are inappropriate	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#168
Mahalo, Goth..	Cha	Jan 2020	#172
Hey Cha	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#173
As do I.. a grieving father who puts	Cha	Jan 2020	#174
Jesus- Fred! will you please just STOP!	James48	Jan 2020	#177
No, I do NOT want Fred Guttenberg to stop	Cha	Jan 2020	#181
I would hope that if Bernie gets the nomination that he will change his mind.	totodeinhere	Jan 2020	#182
Quibbles?	The Valley Below	Jan 2020	#184
K	Cha	Jan 2020	#185
K&R	RandySF	Jan 2020	#186
Who is surprised that sanders supprters are attacking this fine man	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#187
His choice, just as it's my choice to disregard anything Guttenberg has to say...	Devil Child	Jan 2020	#190
Is Stein-supporting Sirota the right person to kvetch about	tishaLA	Jan 2020	#194
If he means in the primary, that's his right	The Mouth	Jan 2020	#195
I love this ad	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#197
Thank you for this, Goth	Cha	Jan 2020	#198
I really admire Fred Gutenberg	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#200
I would definitely vote for Bernie in the General -	OhZone	Jan 2020	#201
It concerns me that he's the GOP choice for Dem candidate.	ehrnst	Jan 2020	#203
Bernie's from Vermont	democrattotheend	Jan 2020	#208
We all know that.	Cha	Jan 2020	#209
The attacks by sanders supporters on this man disgust me	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#210
Yep. And that feeling is growing fast.	Amimnoch	Jan 2020	#211
Mahalo, Amimnoch.. I just Updated the OP	Cha	Jan 2020	#221
Thanks for that update! They're dowright insulting imo.	Amimnoch	Jan 2020	#222
Threats?	Cha	Jan 2020	#224
So he'd vote Trump over Sanders or not vote at all?	Gore1FL	Jan 2020	#214
K&R	Scurrilous	Jan 2020	#216
Fred Guttenberg-sanders is again showing that dealing with gun violence is not a priority.	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#219
omg.. I should UPDATE OP..	Cha	Jan 2020	#220
You are welcomed	Gothmog	Jan 2020	#223
I feel the same.. as a parent.	Cha	Jan 2020	#227
My heart bleeds for this man	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#228
I know, Goth.. Thank you so much for	Cha	Feb 2020	#229
When I saw that it was this father who spoke out, I knew why	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#231
Mahalo, Cha! It's me AgadorSparticus. Hope you have been well.	Vivienne235729	Feb 2020	#232
Aloha!	Cha	Feb 2020	#237
I am also glad that Biden discusses sanders' sad record	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#235
He's right, you know? I feel the same way. Fred speaks for me.	NurseJackie	Feb 2020	#236
These attacks by sanders supporters are sad	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#240
JHC.. I didn't know they went that far.	Cha	Feb 2020	#241
Understandable	Bradical79	Feb 2020	#242
Here is another reason to not support sanders	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#244
Wow.. this needs to go Viral!	Cha	Feb 2020	#245
I am pissed by this stunt	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#246
It's a stupid stunt.. Retweeted Fred's tweet..	Cha	Feb 2020	#247
Has sanders condemned this stunt yet?	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#249
I support Fred's incredible advocacy to #EndGunViolence !	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#250
Thank you..	Cha	Feb 2020	#251
Fred is worried about down ballot candidates	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#256
Excellent info... Thank you, Fred..	Cha	Feb 2020	#257
+1	dalton99a	Feb 2020	#258
Fred has some good comments here	Gothmog	Feb 2020	#259
Thank you, Fred.. Retweeted!	Cha	Feb 2020	#260
Fred Guttenberg endorses Joe Biden	Gothmog	Mar 2020	#261
Oh Wow.. this should be an OP	Cha	Mar 2020	#262

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