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Showing Original Post only (View all)How Negative Is Sanders Willing to Go? [View all]
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or example, the Sanders campaign sent out an edited transcript of something Biden said about Social Security, claiming that he agreed with former Republican Speaker Paul Ryan. Politifact rated that statement false. Here is the part of the speech they left out.
Now, I dont know a whole lot of people in the top one-tenth of 1 percent or the top 1 percent who are relying on Social Security when they retire. I dont know a lot of them. Maybe you guys do. So we need a pro-growth, progressive tax code that treats workers as job creators, as well, not just investors; that gets rid of unprotective loopholes like stepped-up basis; and it raises enough revenue to make sure that the Social Security and Medicare can stay, it still needs adjustments, but can stay; and pay for the things we all acknowledge will grow the country.
Since the campaign got caught in that lie, Sanders supporters have attempted to claim that Biden has been advocating for cutting Social Security for 40 years. As is often the case with disinformation, that is based on a half-truth. To solve a budget impasse in 1995, Biden supported a freeze on all federal spending, including cost of living adjustments to Social Security. Then there was his support for an Obama proposal to change the way cost of living increases were calculated, including both the income tax tables and Social Security. But the Sanders campaign turned those positions into an accusation that Biden attempted to slash Social Security.
An honest look at the totality of Bidens position on Social Security would come from listening to Jared Bernstein, a progressive economist who served as an advisor to the former vice president.
.....Some of us spoke up when Sanders hired David Sirota because his modus operandi was obvious to anyone who knew his history. Sirota has a reputation of being a ruthless attack dog. The campaign had to know that when they hired him. But now it seems that Sirota went too far with his attacks and his boss has been forced to apologize.
It is clear that the Sanders campaign will rely on attacks against his opponents. But this latest incident demonstrates that they are still struggling with where the boundaries are for those negative attacks. It is good to know that, at least for the candidate himself, accusing Biden of being corrupt is outside the boundary.
Now, I dont know a whole lot of people in the top one-tenth of 1 percent or the top 1 percent who are relying on Social Security when they retire. I dont know a lot of them. Maybe you guys do. So we need a pro-growth, progressive tax code that treats workers as job creators, as well, not just investors; that gets rid of unprotective loopholes like stepped-up basis; and it raises enough revenue to make sure that the Social Security and Medicare can stay, it still needs adjustments, but can stay; and pay for the things we all acknowledge will grow the country.
Since the campaign got caught in that lie, Sanders supporters have attempted to claim that Biden has been advocating for cutting Social Security for 40 years. As is often the case with disinformation, that is based on a half-truth. To solve a budget impasse in 1995, Biden supported a freeze on all federal spending, including cost of living adjustments to Social Security. Then there was his support for an Obama proposal to change the way cost of living increases were calculated, including both the income tax tables and Social Security. But the Sanders campaign turned those positions into an accusation that Biden attempted to slash Social Security.
An honest look at the totality of Bidens position on Social Security would come from listening to Jared Bernstein, a progressive economist who served as an advisor to the former vice president.
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.....Some of us spoke up when Sanders hired David Sirota because his modus operandi was obvious to anyone who knew his history. Sirota has a reputation of being a ruthless attack dog. The campaign had to know that when they hired him. But now it seems that Sirota went too far with his attacks and his boss has been forced to apologize.
It is clear that the Sanders campaign will rely on attacks against his opponents. But this latest incident demonstrates that they are still struggling with where the boundaries are for those negative attacks. It is good to know that, at least for the candidate himself, accusing Biden of being corrupt is outside the boundary.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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The way it looks now, there will be four losses for that candidate before Super Tuesday, when.....
George II
Jan 2020
#15
Biden has vowed to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid way back in his campaigning,
emmaverybo
Jan 2020
#3
Agree with your distaste for sanders. I admire your willingness to leave the dem party
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#6
Agree on the BS character problem. Fear that BS is a 3rd Party threat - given his character.
empedocles
Jan 2020
#36
I Guess By Your Logic, Bernie Is Pro-Gun, Anti-Immigrant, Pro-Russia and Pro-F-35
TomCADem
Jan 2020
#10
Add to that list his vote against CHIP. Children's Health Insurance Program
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#18
Why ask that, isn't the issue "cutting" Social Security? Back when Obama was considering...
George II
Jan 2020
#13
Sorry, I did answer the question, you're just not satisfied with the (true) answers.
George II
Jan 2020
#22
Why don't you fucking attack the motherfukkking republikkkans who were holding up the budget
NBachers
Jan 2020
#26
Hopefully he won't release a photo of Obama in a turban like someone did a number of years back
Quixote1818
Jan 2020
#23
I just wish it would stop on all sides. As if fearing Trump prevailing were not bad enough....
hlthe2b
Jan 2020
#34
No. The campaign staff (of multiple candidates) launching lie campaigns is not about defeating Trump
hlthe2b
Jan 2020
#46