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ehrnst

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87. Jeez, OK... it's wrong...,. but look over THERE!!!!...Furious diversion and rationalizing...
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jan 2020

More false equivalencies, and "jeez. lighten up" accusations that those who think the video in the OP is disgusting are simply "faking" "faux woke outrage."

See the thing is, we're talking about one specific personality, Joe Rogan who makes a living spewing misogynist and racist material, and a specific politician who has presented himself as "THE" social justice candidate, "THE" woke candidate who has not simply "tolerated" that misogynist's support but presented it as "evidence" that he can "appeal" to that audience.

Yeah, tell us about MoveOn being 'centrists' displaying "faux woke outrage..."

Aren't you glad to know that you're totally with Richard Spencer with 'splaining that Rogan's particular appeal is "mainstream?"




What mindset does one have to be in to enjoy that material? "Shoot a woman in the "c....t" and the commentary on why HRC isn't appealing enough for a blow job.

Again - is that why so many Sanders supporters want to somehow minimize the content of this video?

See that's where you actually divide the hack hate mongers like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Joe Rogan from satirists or from the artists who use profanity to hold a mirror up to society - Pryor, Kinison, Bill Hicks. What mindset do you have to be in to find their work? At least Glenn Beck and Howard Stern have stated that they now regret what complete hateful assholes they have been in the past. Rush and Rogan, not so much.

But interestingly, Bernie didn't simply "ignore" Martin Skrelli's support of him, and made a very public deal about returning Skrelli's campaign donation. Why do you think he chose to deal with Skrelli so differently?

You still haven't explained how your dismissal of "faux woke outrage" applies to the Sanders supporters who didn't fall in line and praise Sanders's endorsement of Cenk, and by extension Cenk... and convinced Sanders to backpedal and retract his endorsement, as well as Cenk frantic announcement saying that he was 'rejecting all endorsements" to cover for the two that were retracted from progressive male politicians.

If you have to bend over backwards and use a litany of rhetorical fallacies (false equivalencies, false dilemmas, attacking strawmen) to defend your point, perhaps your point needs re-examining.
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Sanders must truly be desperate to celebrate this guy. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #1
He's desperate to do well in Iowa and NH before he slams into Biden's firewall in SC. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #6
The candidate that I vote for will have more character and integrity. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #10
Most of us do.. Thankfully! Cha Jan 2020 #25
Indeed. Thank you for putting it so eloquently. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #42
Nope, can't attack Joe's Bro's. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2020 #2
Omg.. what a fucking shite for brains.. joe rogan Cha Jan 2020 #3
I'd call Rogan a pig, but that would insult pigs. He's a vicious bigot who finds bigotry funny. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #4
Pigs are exponentially smarter than joe rogan. Cha Jan 2020 #11
No kidding. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #12
.. Cha Jan 2020 #27
Funny thing. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #28
Lulu? Love the name! And pet pigs can be very cute. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #29
No. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #30
OMG. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #31
I had heard the name but knew nothing about him.... until now. GemDigger Jan 2020 #5
First comment in tweet thread: "There's a million of these." betsuni Jan 2020 #7
There literally are NCProgressive Jan 2020 #9
Like what AOC said the other day, "some folks run as if the internet doesn't exist." betsuni Jan 2020 #15
Oh, but someone objectionable endorsed Hillary once mcar Jan 2020 #8
The Difference between Joe Biden and BS.. Cha Jan 2020 #13
+ a million NT Rorey Jan 2020 #53
Mahalo, Rorey! Cha Jan 2020 #71
That's really awful language. Haven't heard anything like it since I was last in a comedy club... DanTex Jan 2020 #14
Stop trying to cover for rogans vile asshole Cha Jan 2020 #16
It is like Rush Limbaugh's "entertainer" defense. NCProgressive Jan 2020 #17
"the rush limbaugh" defense.. They keep grasping at straws that Cha Jan 2020 #22
No cover! Like I said, awful language that reminds me of the last comedy club I went to. DanTex Jan 2020 #18
That's right.. your attempt is Not working. Cha Jan 2020 #19
Comedy clubs should be canceled! Comedians too! DanTex Jan 2020 #20
Don't stawman me. Cha Jan 2020 #21
I'm agreeing with you. Comedy about world leaders having oral sex is just vile. DanTex Jan 2020 #23
No you're NOT. Cha Jan 2020 #24
Your statement is also specious with a sardonic twist NCProgressive Jan 2020 #35
Not "comedy".. Vile Sexist utterings from a misogynist Cha Jan 2020 #99
I'd say it was the false dillema fallacy.. ehrnst Jan 2020 #80
Gaslighting! Yeah, you gotta brush up on your Cha Jan 2020 #83
DUH-OH! ehrnst Jan 2020 #88
That's why I made this OP.. Cha Jan 2020 #89
And we have the false dillema fallacy. ehrnst Jan 2020 #77
I've never heard language this vile toward a woman even in a comedy club. showblue22 Jan 2020 #97
I have asked several people here this question. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #32
I think the word is situational ethics BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #68
And different standards for one candidate than the others. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #82
I haven't seen the video you are talking about, but the one's I've seen I find offensive. DanTex Jan 2020 #79
Yes... talking about "shooting a woman in the C...t" is so mainstream in comedy, isn't it? ehrnst Jan 2020 #81
Jeez, I'm just saying I haven't seen that one video. I've seen comedians say some pretty wrong stuff DanTex Jan 2020 #86
Jeez, OK... it's wrong...,. but look over THERE!!!!...Furious diversion and rationalizing... ehrnst Jan 2020 #87
I said it's wrong. And I said I didn't see that other video, which is true, I haven't. DanTex Jan 2020 #90
"That other video" the one in the OP above? ehrnst Jan 2020 #91
The one in the OP about Hillary I've seen. The one joking about shooting women I haven't. DanTex Jan 2020 #92
No, the standard is embracing the support. Bernie shunned Skrelli's support and $$$. ehrnst Jan 2020 #84
Was the person endorsing a wannabe president? Was that wannabe leader of the free world, CIC of emmaverybo Jan 2020 #101
Yeah, Glenn Beck used that excuse, too, I remember... ehrnst Jan 2020 #41
The "he is just a comedian" defense is hilarious NYMinute Jan 2020 #26
Sanders would have been best off completely ignoring the endorsement. Beakybird Jan 2020 #33
or rejecting it NCProgressive Jan 2020 #36
Like he did Skrelli's fanboy adoration... ehrnst Jan 2020 #85
yUck! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #34
But she's just a woman. The bros don't really care about women. And will prove it by defending Squinch Jan 2020 #37
And it's HRC who is the target, so many self-described feminist bros are likely chuckling along.(nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #44
Yes. And not appreciating the... er... irony of their positions at all. Squinch Jan 2020 #54
I hope that the Sanders campaign understands the reaction to this. ehrnst Jan 2020 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #39
So you aren't offended by the content of the video? And you think others are faking outrage? ehrnst Jan 2020 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #43
"Don't have to watch.." ehrnst Jan 2020 #46
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #51
I absolutely think others are faking outrage. Here's why. DanTex Jan 2020 #63
Of course - Bernie supporters can read minds NCProgressive Jan 2020 #64
It doesn't require mind reading, just observation of hypocritical actions. DanTex Jan 2020 #65
Did Pete embrace the endorsement of someone who makes a living being a bigot on air? ehrnst Jan 2020 #73
Yes. He's in a video with the guy, spread around by his campaign. DanTex Jan 2020 #74
Link please to this "identical" situation. ehrnst Jan 2020 #75
Here. DanTex Jan 2020 #76
OK. That's an embrace. Now to make your case that it's "nearly identical" ehrnst Jan 2020 #78
That's one. Just 19 more to go for the "20 more examples ehrnst Jan 2020 #94
You think that anyone offended by the misogyny in the video would not be offended if ehrnst Jan 2020 #72
There is nothing phony about the outrage brer cat Jan 2020 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #49
More like legitimate disgust Rorey Jan 2020 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #66
I didn't know wtf joe rogan was but now I Cha Jan 2020 #70
Wait a minute.. who are you to determine anyone else's Cha Jan 2020 #95
Why do you hope that? Mariana Jan 2020 #96
That would be the reason they're sticking with Rogan kcr Jan 2020 #45
Well, the target of the sewage coming out of his mouth is HRC. So there's that. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #47
Yep. I wonder how Cenk Uyger feels about getting the boot kcr Jan 2020 #50
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #52
False equivalency. Amimnoch Jan 2020 #58
+++++++++ NCProgressive Jan 2020 #60
Well.. now I'm firmly vote blue almost no matter who. Amimnoch Jan 2020 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #57
I decline to say. Amimnoch Jan 2020 #59
+1000 NCProgressive Jan 2020 #61
Ugh. cwydro Jan 2020 #62
The takeaway from this thread is there are people here who are just fine with birtherism. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #67
Yep. Cha Jan 2020 #93
K&R RandySF Jan 2020 #69
Joe Rogan was a Birther, too Zolorp Jan 2020 #98
sanders has demonstrated some very pool judgment in promoting this endorsement Gothmog Jan 2020 #100
So true.. :( embrace this guy's endorsement.. Cha Feb 2020 #102
Thank you again, NCProgressive Cha Feb 2020 #103
Kick NCProgressive Mar 2020 #104
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