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KPN

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27. Not eight, forty. The GOP breaks all norms, pillages and

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:23 AM

Jan 2020

succeeds wildly in their aims over those 40 years. Result? Some of us argue “we can’t, it’s not possible, we can’t afford to do anything risky.”

Meanwhile, Roberts, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, tRump, McConnell, expand drilling, export oil/gas, “adjunct” professorships with no security/benefits, best way to get ahead for most — join the military, no healthcare no problem there’s always the emergency room, the treasury plundered/deficit turbo boosted, ... you get it, the list goes on and on and on. But let’s do more of the same is “realistic”. We’re the tinker bells?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Fine I'll admit it. Bernie Sanders is pandering to me. [View all] Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 OP

Said the writing teacher NJCher Jan 2020 #1

Thanks! Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #3

Was a Bernie supporter in 2012 CountAllVotes Jan 2020 #2

We already have voted for a wizard of oz... pbmus Jan 2020 #4

We can't afford anything less than solving our problems now. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #5

Oh that's right. We can only hope. Anything KPN Jan 2020 #26

rainbows and ponies for everyone lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #6

Taking the minimum steps on global warming and Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #7

lets make progress lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #8

You know what? We've tried it your way. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #11

Not eight, forty. The GOP breaks all norms, pillages and KPN Jan 2020 #27

This. We have to fight our way back, and fight hard to make up lost ground. Not inches, but miles. JudyM Jan 2020 #47

.... KPN Jan 2020 #61

Thanks KPN! Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #60

Ah yes those terrible Obama years. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #28

lol NCProgressive Jan 2020 #37

Best president in my lifetime squirecam Jan 2020 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #52

We got a demagogue cheating his way into office Skidmore Jan 2020 #42

Wow awesomerwb1 Jan 2020 #53

We had control 10 years out of 52 Midnightwalk Jan 2020 #55

That's great rhetoric, but... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #33

THIS!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #51

I'm not for Bernie Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #9

and you forgot to say accurate lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #10

Student loan forgiveness does not require the legislature. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #12

so... let's see lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #14

So because you dont benefit from it, then nobody else should? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #15

We've had This argument in another thread.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #34

Indeed, let's see wackadoo wabbit Jan 2020 #17

+100000000 KPN Jan 2020 #30

What?! Yikes. No wonder we have problems. KPN Jan 2020 #29

We are NOT the wealthiest nation on earth lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #49

Shoot for the stars Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #13

anyone who really wants those things should be working on treestar Feb 2020 #73

I hope Bernie doesn't win the nomination and Hav Jan 2020 #16

Do something to earn loan forgiveness! Lexblues Jan 2020 #18

The problem is bigger than yours or my individual loans. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #19

Well we aren't forced to sign up for them Lexblues Jan 2020 #20

I think it is absurd to think something shouldn't be done simply Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #21

It's not just about it not benefiting a particular person.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #38

I'd like to have a full and fair discussion on this... squirecam Jan 2020 #41

I think this is where the "not fair" crowd falters. PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #64

This is nonsense. squirecam Jan 2020 #68

No, my informed opinion is not "nonsense." However, this is: PandoraAwakened Feb 2020 #71

You are correct squirecam Feb 2020 #72

we ALL had student loans. For many of us it was the first mjor financial decison of our lives.. samnsara Jan 2020 #25

I still cannot believe we are arguing.... Skittles Jan 2020 #22

Don't be fooled. He's making pie in the sky promises. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #23

if trump* wins...you can forget about ALL of that.. probably forever. samnsara Jan 2020 #24

Aha! So you want to benefit by $10K and want other people to pay for it!! NCProgressive Jan 2020 #31

I've had a loan for OVER 10K before and I paid it off in about six years. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #35

Actually, there are several ways one can pay off the loans NCProgressive Jan 2020 #36

A family connection took option 1. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #39

They are actually looking like a gigantic crisis Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #63

K&R CentralMass Jan 2020 #32

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #43

I'd like to know more squirecam Jan 2020 #46

Whelp squirecam Jan 2020 #56

I don't care if he panders; I care if he loses so he can't deliver on the pandering... brooklynite Jan 2020 #44

Well of course. We should care if our eventual nominee loses to Trump no matter who she or he may be totodeinhere Jan 2020 #50

Yes, but some candidates have a greater likelihood of losing than others... brooklynite Jan 2020 #57

When he loses to Trump, you will get NOTHING on your wish list. scheming daemons Jan 2020 #45

His pandering and triangulation are effective tools of a career politician. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #48

Not one thing any candidate wouldn't want. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #54

Hey I like you and we have great discussions...but I am done with Bernie Sanders in the primary. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #58

He was fired, no? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #59

It is too much for me...they had to know who he was and then she liked his video. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #67

Thanks! You too! Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #69

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #62

$10K for life? The Revolution Jan 2020 #65

More. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #66

Thanks for your post. David__77 Jan 2020 #70