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StevieM

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51. I guess all her advertising and her staffers working the ground in those states don't count.

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:06 PM

Jan 2020

She actually did make a campaign stop in Minnesota.

And she didn't hold a rally in Wisconsin because she was leading by double digits. Bernie went there for the same reason that Chelsea did--if a candidate isn't planning a rally in a certain state, or area, then they send their top surrogates. So obviously Bernie was going to be sent there if she wasn't planning a rally of her own.

Holding an event or two, or even five, would not have changed the outcome of Wisconsin. She campaigned ferociously in Pennsylvania, with more rallies than any other state (in a tie with FL and OH), but still lost there. She didn't really lose because of a badly run campaign, no matter what the media now claims. She lost because James Comey and the FBI set out to destroy her. They were never going to let her win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Hillary Clinton Slams Bernie Sanders for Not Working to Unite Democrats in 2016 [View all] brooklynite Jan 2020 OP

This is one of the many reasons I can not support Bernie calguy Jan 2020 #1

I disliked him the moment he called for President Obama to be primaried. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #7

Same - and I supported him in the 2016 primaries democrattotheend Jan 2020 #16

Yeah. I went really negative on him after watching his conduct in 2016. Blue_true Jan 2020 #78

She lost because she did not GOTV in the rust belt CarlitosMMT Jan 2020 #104

Stop. Just stop. zentrum Jan 2020 #2

tell me about it!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Jan 2020 #5

For the past 3 years Bernie has been making the false claim that StevieM Jan 2020 #6

That's a good point. OnDoutside Jan 2020 #8

Both of them should stop. 2016 is over. The party needs to be united in 2020. DanTex Jan 2020 #9

He is calling the DNC again today as rigging the election. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #36

I think that was in regards to the DNC allowing Bloomberg in the next debate. jalan48 Jan 2020 #37

They changed the rules, which they said they might do. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #42

The next debate is February 7. Bloomberg won't be there lapucelle Jan 2020 #69

Sorry, Feb 19th Debate jalan48 Feb 2020 #109

it was before the Debate decision Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #116

He's not the only candidate complaining about the rule change. JudyM Feb 2020 #130

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Maybe you could read up on the facts. JudyM Feb 2020 #129

Seriously. SMC22307 Jan 2020 #41

On election day...right before the voting...Jane said what was important was not who you voted for Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #45

And Hillary bringing back all the 2016 stuff is sure to help unity this time... DanTex Jan 2020 #57

Sander just said the DNC rigged the system letting Bloomberg in...so there will be no unity. We have Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #62

Well, the DNC did change the rules to let Bloomberg in. So there's that. DanTex Jan 2020 #75

I'm not entirely sure radical noodle Jan 2020 #108

Bloomberg doesn't hurt Sanders...Biden maybe...He is number four ....so he has to be in the debate. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #134

Let's not omit the fact that Warren & Steyer are making the same point. JudyM Feb 2020 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author calguy Jan 2020 #105

Does the truth hurt Dan? calguy Jan 2020 #107

Disgusting. She was giving people "permission" or... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #59

She was doing exactly that. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #61

Actually that was after the voting. Hence the past tense "voted". DanTex Jan 2020 #76

She's right. LisaM Jan 2020 #3

It was heart-wrenching to watch. But. DanTex Jan 2020 #17

I disagree. LisaM Jan 2020 #38

She has to try to stop him from doing that this year. Blue_true Jan 2020 #82

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Just because the NY Times wrote that lie in 2016 that doesn't mean that it ever really happened. StevieM Jan 2020 #10

Wow, I could not have said it better myself democrattotheend Jan 2020 #19

Hillary is right. She's not saying this out of spite. It's advice to the Dems running in 2020 Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #39

So the NYT is now Fake News? TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #21

DNC: "an impotent, toothless organization that couldn't sabotage a campaign to save their lives." betsuni Jan 2020 #33

Bernie worked hard for Hillary ritapria Jan 2020 #11

Apparently he didn't supplicate enough and kiss her pinky ring TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #15

... lapucelle Jan 2020 #34

He did not hold 35 campaign rallies for her. Of course she sent him a note, she's a classy woman. George II Jan 2020 #22

I remember Bernie doing rallies in Duluth and Madison TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #26

Time Kaine made a number of stops in Wisconsin, and Clinton won Minnesota. George II Jan 2020 #29

I guess all her advertising and her staffers working the ground in those states don't count. StevieM Jan 2020 #51

41 documented in this video. progressoid Jan 2020 #70

BS showed up to do his part 17 days out of 102 during the GE season. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #73

The claim that he didn't hold 35 campaign rallies for her. progressoid Jan 2020 #92

He showed up 17 out of 102 days. I captained phone bankers who showed up more often. lapucelle Jan 2020 #102

+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #103

I have heard many claims by his supporters. Blue_true Jan 2020 #84

I remember 4 in Iowa alone. progressoid Jan 2020 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #117

The was the type of letter you send your aunt for giving you socks for Christmas Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #118

I now regret voting for Hillary in the 2016 Primary TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #12

Funny, I sort of feel the opposite democrattotheend Jan 2020 #25

She didn't ignore the midwest. As much as people make the claim that she ignored Michigan.... George II Jan 2020 #27

Well said. The media has created a mythical version of history, here in the Second McCarthy Era. StevieM Jan 2020 #55

When did she come to Wisconsin? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #100

She absolutely did not ignore the midwest. That is pure fiction. (eom) StevieM Jan 2020 #53

How many visits to Wisconsin in the run up to the general? BlueWI Feb 2020 #112

That is your one and only point. It hardly adds up to HRC ignoring the midwest. StevieM Feb 2020 #114

Results matter. BlueWI Feb 2020 #124

I am not spinning anything. I am saying that it is historically inaccurate to say that she didn't StevieM Feb 2020 #132

She is correct. We saw the result mcar Jan 2020 #13

Is she writing another book? jalan48 Jan 2020 #14

No. A documentary about her life premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #32

heh. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #20

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Hillary is a TEAM Player for the country and the Planet. Cha Jan 2020 #24

Indeed she is. There's no REAL dem that has done more for the party or the country Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #40

I was for Obama but when Hillary came Cha Jan 2020 #44

Divide, divide, divide. democrank Jan 2020 #28

Sanders: "I don't consider myself a Democrat" From 2017.. Cha Jan 2020 #47

She's right apcalc Jan 2020 #30

Where were you in 2016? Bernie went out of his way to support Hillary... iwannaknow Jan 2020 #31

The number of rallies he attended is not the paramount issue. StevieM Jan 2020 #46

In the Fall, he questioned her capacity to lead every chance that he got. Blue_true Jan 2020 #88

No he didn't...and the convention was debacle.. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #48

She is correct. betsuni Jan 2020 #35

He only did more than she did for Obama. Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #43

No he didn't. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #49

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I will ignore your rudeness and say I counted looking at what you presented 11 times... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #77

Prove it? Watch the video with dates and locations. Otherwise there's nothing left to Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #81

I also posted less the than helpful things he said and pointed out the first joint appearance was Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #98

Which of those stops in the video are fake. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #97

According to your video BS showed up on 17 of the 102 days in the GE season. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #60

LOL... SidDithers Jan 2020 #65

She's right...nt SidDithers Jan 2020 #66

Of Course it did.. Hillary is DEAD ON.. Cha Jan 2020 #50

Like saying that how we voted is not as important as that we voted. betsuni Jan 2020 #54

YES! And, sirota lying about Hillary the Night Before the GENERAL Cha Jan 2020 #68

There was a lot of russian disinformation in the swing states targeting minorities Kurt V. Jan 2020 #71

And, sirota lying about Hillary the Night Before the GENERAL Cha Jan 2020 #72

true. but no where near the power zuck and his russian fascists welded. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #74

Russians knew what to use. Effect on young people: betsuni Jan 2020 #89

Not helpful. NT ALBliberal Jan 2020 #52

I had the same thought in 2016 I think he could have done more but he chose to do less. katmondoo Jan 2020 #56

That was my feeling also. He did almost nothing to help her. Blue_true Jan 2020 #94

damn she bitter. i thought she was above this. guess not. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #63

Trump was elected...we lost court seats and could lose another if Ginsberg can't hold on... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #79

Perhaps. I'm bitter too. but more towards Zuckerberg. Cambridge. Russians. comey. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #83

Honestly, I will never forgive Sanders for not supporting her sufficiently especially during the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #96

She is right. He caused a lot of animosity toward her and did almost Blue_true Jan 2020 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #120

Hillary was correct in her charges about sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #126

I can't get behind Bernie. bitterross Jan 2020 #64

I hope at least a few can see the sad irony here n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #67

I am sure they can but admitting it seems to be a bit of a challenge. LOL nt Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #91

Why the F are we fighting over 2016 still? Can't we all just STFU about it? nt cry baby Jan 2020 #80

How is this going to unite Democrats? Absolutely tone deaf hypocrisy that is not helpeful at all. Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #85

Oh goody, one of those "post removed" threads. Too bad it's my bedtime soon. rzemanfl Jan 2020 #86

Timing is everything. This will have an impact on furthering divisiveness. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #87

She did the same stuff to Obama but who cares? This should all be in the past Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #93

This isn't helpful. squirecam Jan 2020 #99

She needs to stop. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #101

I saw this first hand at the National Convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #106

Hillary needs to stop interfering in the Primaries kelly1mm Feb 2020 #110

as soon as Sanders lost the election.... quickesst Feb 2020 #111

Poor timing for this criticism. BlueWI Feb 2020 #113

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No, stranger81, Hillary is NOT a narcissist. She's being honest. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #119

'We don't know what his motivations were for being absent' denem Feb 2020 #121

True. Thank you. I'd have hoped that other things would have ranked higher... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #122

It was time to cash in. denem Feb 2020 #123

I was at the National Convention and I agree with Hillary Clinton on sanders lack of support Gothmog Feb 2020 #125

Good luck on getting support from Clinton supporters Gothmog Feb 2020 #127

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I just wish that we could put 2016 behind us and concentrate on the here and now. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #133