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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Cornell Engineer

(80 posts)
107. Democrats
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:20 PM
Feb 2020

ain't too good at picking candidates with general appeal. Only 1 outta their last 4 presidential nominees managed to win the general election...and they were running against 2 of the worst Gopper goons in history. We nominate Sanders and you can probably make that 1 outta 5.

The moderate liberals (Biden, Buttigieg & Klobuchar) got around 55% of the Iowa vote while the progressive liberals (Sanders & Warren) only got about 45%...albeit the numbers are still trickling in. If they can't get even half of the Democratic Party how the hell will they get half of the entire electorate? These numbers accurately reflect the fact that progressives don't even make up half of all Dems. And the last time I checked there weren't very many self-identified liberals/progressives who are registered as Independents (less than 25%, in fact). Math certainly doesn't seem to be my fellow progressives strong suit.

If we Democrats are actually stupid enough to shoot ourselves in the foot yet again I may have to eat a bullet because I'm not sure I can take another 4 years of Fuhrer Drumpf. Folks can bitch all they want about some of Bloomberg's choices and policies in the past but we'd all be a lot better off with him in the White House than Sanders out of it if that is the choice that it ultimately comes down to.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

I'm just gonna sit back for a few months and see what happens. If 538 is anywhere close to being right (and they usually are) we may be looking at a brokered convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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He cut the line without doing any of the frontend work and is running a GE campaign against tRump. CentralMass Feb 2020 #1
Big Wallet Tiny Ideas ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #4
He got that big wallet Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #8
Your opinion ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #10
Sure is Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #13
Look at his story, his family was not rich I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #96
and what "big ideas and vision" choie Feb 2020 #90
Start with his efforts in Virginia Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #95
He has put his money were his mouth is I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #102
and how is that going to make your life better? choie Feb 2020 #139
So what Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #7
Yikes redqueen Feb 2020 #25
So good for him but I'm not going vote for him in the primary CentralMass Feb 2020 #42
Good God. You guys have no sense of irony whatsoever. Squinch Feb 2020 #26
No one forced to enter a caucus or primary delisen Feb 2020 #29
Let him run that campaign. xmas74 Feb 2020 #69
He is a surer bet to beat Trump than Bernie is I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #100
That's the key to Bloomberg - aside from his own campaign, he's giving MILLIONS to candidates... George II Feb 2020 #2
He also liked to fund Republicans, too. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #54
But he has stated he will donate xmas74 Feb 2020 #73
Not just FUND Rethugz; he's endorsed The Shrub &is Rudy's buddy! But hes a REAL Democrat, not Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #111
Bloomberg understands that to win, the election has to be a referendum on Trump scheming daemons Feb 2020 #3
Biden started out that way as well NewJeffCT Feb 2020 #32
Steyer was doing that before Bloom. But he had to start campaigning to make the stage. Autumn Feb 2020 #5
Bloomberg does not need the debates to get TV exposure I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #106
I'm seriously considering switching from Joe to Mike. Zolorp Feb 2020 #6
Me too. I will wait to see how Biden does but I want someone that will punch back at Trump helpisontheway Feb 2020 #11
He would need a Dem Senate after he wins, so yeah, lots of money to flip the Senate. Zolorp Feb 2020 #14
Yep... Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #16
He is on my short list in the Florida primary if he does good coming into my state primary. Blue_true Feb 2020 #24
He's been living rent free in Trump's head ever since he announced. Zolorp Feb 2020 #31
And I bet that if he is the nominee, he would seek out input from Blue_true Feb 2020 #57
Bloomberg is on your "short list"?!?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #113
My wife is all in for Bloomberg, i'm still keeping my powder dry for the best chance to beat the dem4decades Feb 2020 #84
Putting Bloomberg in charge is like putting the arsonist in the fire brigade liskddksil Feb 2020 #9
Again, so what Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #12
What makes a person a Democrat? sarisataka Feb 2020 #49
Bloomberg because he really is self-financing Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #50
Yes, I would have to put Bloomberg pretty far down on my list. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #18
I see who are for bdamomma Feb 2020 #127
If he can explain why he endorsed those people, I am ok with that. Blue_true Feb 2020 #27
Yes, but Bernie is the biggest threat to our Democratic way of life... yeah riiiight!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #115
Trump is the greatest threat to our democracy I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #121
Nope, it makes Bernie a Man of the People... I'll take Democratic Socialism in the mold of FDR InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #123
I like Bernie, but he cannot win I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #134
So you like Trump instead? I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #119
That all you got? I'm an actual Democrat unlike Mike the Republican donor nt liskddksil Feb 2020 #128
He can beat Trump, that is all I care about I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #131
No he can't. African Americans will stay home. nt liskddksil Feb 2020 #132
So you think they want Trump, I think not. I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #133
I'm starting to pay attention to him, too. I like Pete and Joe but may jump. Happyhippychick Feb 2020 #15
I just think there is something unseemly about a multi billionaire trying to buy the totodeinhere Feb 2020 #17
Nothing stops anyone Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #20
We are opposing Filthy Donnie. We really need to get over our fears of the Squinch Feb 2020 #34
I think we should be able multitask. I want to beat Trump as much as you do. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #60
I care about other things besides beating trump calguy Feb 2020 #66
Billionaire Bloomberg v Millionaire Sanders. stopbush Feb 2020 #74
$60 BILLION is a little different than $2 million. To anyone. JudyM Feb 2020 #98
But Bernie is not trying to buy the election. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #108
Well.... there are some questions being raised about that. ehrnst Feb 2020 #140
NO SHIT!!! Thankfully, it's gonna be Bernie as our beloved Democratic nominee, so no need to worry! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #117
Me too, but we must beat Trump N/T I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #122
Well... ehrnst Feb 2020 #141
Bloomberg vs Trump. A Wall St. match-up made in heaven.. jalan48 Feb 2020 #19
Seriously...think I'll stick with Bernie, who fights for the working class on Main Street... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #114
I think Wall St is already well represented, they don't need more. jalan48 Feb 2020 #116
Trump relies heavily on the belief that he is super rich. Blue_true Feb 2020 #21
Bloomberg is the one guy I think would genuinely intimidate Trump renate Feb 2020 #22
Didn't know he was a dog guy Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #30
His daughter loves horses. She is a highly skilled equestrian. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #59
"He doesn't tweet." Reason to vote for him right there!!! Squinch Feb 2020 #89
And Steyer has just never "caught." Bloomberg is rising steadily, and I suspect Squinch Feb 2020 #36
Steyer comes off as too soft. Unfortunately that matters in today's world. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #63
It's going to take some type of gamble to defeat an incumbent Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #23
Bloomberg instantly pulls back those people that voted for Blue_true Feb 2020 #40
Incumbent this year, and everyone keeps forgetting a very key thing about 2016. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #92
We need an alliance with the Greens. JudyM Feb 2020 #101
Trump has raised crazy money for his reelection and Bloombeg has that under his couch cushions Kaleva Feb 2020 #28
Trump has raised only $145 million. Democrats have raised almost $400 million. Blue_true Feb 2020 #44
Dem candidates are spending the money fighting each other. Trump is building his war chest. Kaleva Feb 2020 #124
He's not my first choice but oldtime dfl_er Feb 2020 #33
I'd take a guess and say Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #35
If it was Stacey Abrahms oldtime dfl_er Feb 2020 #37
Could be Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #38
What does that mean? babylonsister Feb 2020 #41
It means if Bloomberg selects Gillum Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #45
Ah, gotcha, thanks! nt babylonsister Feb 2020 #48
He knows Booker really well and has worked with him on issues. Blue_true Feb 2020 #47
Biden has been running a general election campaign since the beginning. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #39
And yet I haven't seen one upper cut Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #43
Joe's issue oldtime dfl_er Feb 2020 #46
I agree. Blue_true Feb 2020 #52
exactly oldtime dfl_er Feb 2020 #81
Way too early... Cornell Engineer Feb 2020 #51
I cannot find one earthly reason why Bloomberg would be a good choice. RelativelyJones Feb 2020 #53
As pointed out Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #55
Well, so was Avenatti at one time MichMan Feb 2020 #67
Avenatti is a sleazebag shyster Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #70
Yet many here were touting Avenatti as a candidate because of the way he went after Trump MichMan Feb 2020 #120
$$$ DeterDeter Feb 2020 #76
Yeah... not a huge fan of his policies, but love the way he is campaigning. tinrobot Feb 2020 #56
After that sham of trial Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #58
Absolutely. All the other issues can wait. tinrobot Feb 2020 #62
One thing I admire about Bloomberg calguy Feb 2020 #61
Bloomberg is running the best campaign Lexblues Feb 2020 #64
Yep Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #65
Well all I know is I have to watch one of his adds everytime I watch a youtube video. calguy Feb 2020 #71
So now the best campaign is coming in and throwing money around until it sticks? Doremus Feb 2020 #75
Look beyond the money Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #77
I have no interest in Bush lovers. None. Zero. Nada. Doremus Feb 2020 #86
Nothing happens Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #97
Knee jerk nonsense Doremus Feb 2020 #130
Your naivete is pervasive Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #135
So you prefer Trump? I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #125
Utter nonsense. And a self fulfilling prophecy. Doremus Feb 2020 #129
BIIIIIINNGGOOOOO!! It's even BEYOND "beyond stupid"!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #136
It's not 1940. TV, media, internet matters... Lexblues Feb 2020 #85
He seems to be the only one who understands that messaging is everything. And he seems to Squinch Feb 2020 #88
We don't focus enough on messaging, it's our greatest weakness! JudyM Feb 2020 #103
Bloomberg was a Bush lover not so long ago. When the wind blows the other way is he going to Doremus Feb 2020 #68
For a third time, so what Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #72
You have low goals. nt Doremus Feb 2020 #79
I have a clear focus Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #99
Other than his money DeterDeter Feb 2020 #78
Folks seem to be hoping for the knight in shining armor to save us... JudyM Feb 2020 #105
Laugh at me if you will, but every time I see Judge Judy's commercial Croney Feb 2020 #80
Bloomberg knows exactly who the enemy is... TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #82
Bloomberg pamdb Feb 2020 #83
Yeah, he attacks the threat head on by supporting George Bush versus Kerry. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #87
Number four, so what Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #93
Democrats Cornell Engineer Feb 2020 #107
Wait!!! I thought only Joe could stop tRumpy the Clown!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #118
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #112
I am not willing to bdamomma Feb 2020 #91
As if that.... Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #94
As Bernie rose in the last weeks, so did Trump in the polls. We'll have applegrove Feb 2020 #104
Regression Analysis? Cornell Engineer Feb 2020 #109
. applegrove Feb 2020 #110
Cannot vote for another old white billionaire Kilgore Feb 2020 #126
What if he becomes the Democratic nominee? DinahMoeHum Feb 2020 #137
Committed Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #138
I'll be honest. I dont want to like Bloomberg but his attack on Trump Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #142
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