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sarabelle

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44. It's ok to believe her. But believing her means what? She was uneasy with Biden

Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:10 PM

Apr 2019

kissing her head from behind as he held her shoulders in public?

Was she as open about the actual harassment charges against members of her Sanders campaign? If she truly wanted Biden to stop his behavior or to let him know how she felt about it, she could have told him when it happened or at least contacted Jill to let her know how she felt when it happened. I have, on several occasions, said to overly friendly men, "I'm uncomfortable with touchy-feely so please don' t do that again." Never had a problem and men and the one woman I said that to never had a problem in apologizing and life went on with professional relationships and in two cases, lasting friendships.

Now being in a different situation like attempted rape, groping, touching in intimate places etc. is a totally different story. And other more forceful or legal measures should be taken as soon as possible.

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Hard Truth Time: #MeToo Is Morphing Into Cultural Hostage Taking [View all] Stare Decisis Apr 2019 OP

It jumped the shark more than a year ago BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #1

A joke? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #9

Yeah, a joke BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #11

+1 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #54

It became a joke when Bettie Apr 2019 #113

I see what you are doing. n/t demmiblue Apr 2019 #2

Yep. All those wimmins should just shut up and take it as a compliment. Squinch Apr 2019 #3

Right... the #MeToo movement be damned!! Those saying this should tell that to Warren & Castro InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #5

This hurts victims real victims not political operatives like Flores and the Eskimo kiss Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #15

Be sure to let Warren & Castro know about this...why do you think they stand w/ Lucy & believe her? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #17

One big difference between me too then and now. Then it was about sexual assualt/rape/blackmail GemDigger Apr 2019 #36

You're seriously characterizing (& minimizing) these kind of incidents as "invading personal space"? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #38

You seriousely do NOT see the difference? GemDigger Apr 2019 #40

OBVIOUSLY, there's a difference...that doesn't make your characterization accurate or appropriate. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #41

I speak for myself and as a survivor ( I was left for dead after the ordeal) I feel calling this GemDigger Apr 2019 #46

so sorry handmade34 Apr 2019 #52

So sorry. I get it...took me years. This brought it back. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #73

I am so sorry Demsrule86. GemDigger Apr 2019 #110

No it wasnt your words...the situation mostly. On the other hand, I told my husband of 30 years. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #111

I hope that being able to finally tell your husband has brought you some peace. GemDigger Apr 2019 #114

Good way of putting it...I will tell my hubs...what you say. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #115

Do you believe this helps women who have suffered as you have? Amimnoch Apr 2019 #105

I believe their space was invaded as do the candidates. I am not denying that. GemDigger Apr 2019 #106

I totally agree with false equivalency. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #108

I wish I had your eloquence. GemDigger Apr 2019 #109

Believe it or not, women have the right to set their own limits pazzyanne Apr 2019 #39

That's a perfectly reasonable way to handle such situations. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #48

Now I appreciate the Indian culture even more at140 Apr 2019 #56

Men would too then treestar Apr 2019 #75

What? pazzyanne Apr 2019 #91

"women get to set their own limits" treestar Apr 2019 #92

I've seldom had to do more than Bettie Apr 2019 #116

I don't believe them..not credible and political...causes women like me to not be believed and Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47

+1000 Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #62

It's ok to believe her. But believing her means what? She was uneasy with Biden sarabelle Apr 2019 #44

That's not what they said treestar Apr 2019 #77

yes how dare those uppity women actually expect to control their personal space dsc Apr 2019 #4

It is shocking to see posters here reccing a thread entitled... demmiblue Apr 2019 #14

+1 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #53

Oh amen to that one!! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #63

Thank you Celerity Apr 2019 #72

IKR!!I Never expected to see some of the comments I've read here... it's quite shocking! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #23

He was there to support her candidacy. ucrdem Apr 2019 #34

The women that did Franken, where are they now? Historic NY Apr 2019 #6

Probably spending their rubles somewhere. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #71

They did their job, and they are now quiet. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #93

You cannot legislate behavior lettucebe Apr 2019 #7

+1 TruckFump Apr 2019 #8

Biden's not a boy. He's been told for decades to stop being handsy. Squinch Apr 2019 #12

I don't see any pictures showing uncomfortable women, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #16

Uh....they are all over. Socal31 Apr 2019 #58

"Hes been told for decades to stop being handsy." Can you back that up? Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #31

Who told him for decades? treestar Apr 2019 #76

I think when the women who speak out of their discomfort when men invade their Autumn Apr 2019 #13

These women speak out for political reasons just like Franken . Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20

So you keep saying. Clearly you have the ability to know first hand how they feel Autumn Apr 2019 #24

I know how I feel. I was attacked and sent to the hospital. My assailant was not prosecuted because Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #42

I'm sorry that happened to you. A lot of us have similar stories to yours. I do. Autumn Apr 2019 #55

I don't dont belive that...political operatives who will make it worse for women Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #59

Not everthing in life is a power struggle between men and women. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #96

That's true. For many years now we have told women that they no longer have to tolerate Autumn Apr 2019 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author happy feet Apr 2019 #51

Agreed, and the younger generation is more touchy feely treestar Apr 2019 #78

And I am glad they are! We need more affection in this world! IluvPitties Apr 2019 #95

+1 LAS14 Apr 2019 #85

Thank you for your common sense! IluvPitties Apr 2019 #94

Exactly this BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #10

As a victim of sexual assault and harrassment that is exactly how I feel. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18

+1 ucrdem Apr 2019 #22

Thanks for the support. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #28

You got it! ucrdem Apr 2019 #49

+1 treestar Apr 2019 #79

What everyone fears zipplewrath Apr 2019 #80

If there were stories like that BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #89

Shameful it is. #metoo started in 2017. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #97

+1 LAS14 Apr 2019 #86

Maybe we should go back to kissing lady's hands and calling them madame. ucrdem Apr 2019 #19

Me either. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21

What is that sposed to mean? Why are you diminishing the #MeToo movement?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #25

She wasn't harrassed or molested. ucrdem Apr 2019 #26

That's how you let women know you've arrived?! That's news to me and, probably, most people!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #29

How would you have done it? ucrdem Apr 2019 #32

Ummm... say "hello"?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35

There was a campaign event in progress. ucrdem Apr 2019 #37

Yeah, all the rowdies at the event mightve heard Joe say "hello" to Flores backstage... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #103

Yes if they wearing wireless microphones. ucrdem Apr 2019 #104

The women acting as political operatives are destroying me too. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #30

What makes Lucy a political operative who then can't be the victim of inappropriate touching? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #33

We aren't. The women coming on with their touching stories are damaging True Blue American Apr 2019 #102

My wife teaches 1st grade she gets a lot of "he/she touched me" njhoneybadger Apr 2019 #27

This may be the most on point comment today LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #43

Ha.. and he/she touched my peanut butter sandwich!!! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #64

Same as it ever was. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #69

The party needs to get a grip. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #45

Well said! happy feet Apr 2019 #57

I agree MustLoveBeagles Apr 2019 #61

Thanks! Excellent post! IluvPitties Apr 2019 #98

I don't think most women are misusing the #MeToo movement, but some are, and the attacks on Biden highplainsdem Apr 2019 #50

Exactly. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #99

Looks to me like a hit and run post Andy823 Apr 2019 #60

Yes. Exactly. nt IndyOp Apr 2019 #74

Pegged this one a long time ago. demmiblue Apr 2019 #81

I find it very helpful! So glad for the common sense posts. nt LAS14 Apr 2019 #87

Yes it became a joke Meowmee Apr 2019 #65

I recall hearing jokes about Anita Hill, too loyalsister Apr 2019 #66

Actually it is not a joke, it is another fascist aspect of what is happening currently. Meowmee Apr 2019 #67

I applaud your comment BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #70

Hugging is human; politicians hug and get hugged delisen Apr 2019 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Apr 2019 #82

#metoo movement kicks ass. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #83

MRA bullshit. Transparent as fuck. LexVegas Apr 2019 #84

What's MRA? LAS14 Apr 2019 #88

I like this statement by Joe Biden Gothmog Apr 2019 #90

It's a great excuse for anyone who had problems with the movement in the first place LanternWaste Apr 2019 #100

The alt-right narrative is trying to take hold at the DU, I see Tarc Apr 2019 #101

The defensiveness is more damaging than the incidents loyalsister Apr 2019 #112