Democratic Primaries

Tiggeroshii

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21. Rigid ideologues get things done.

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:18 PM

Feb 2020

You can hate on Trump as much as you want (I do and I will), but he is getting a lot done for the fanatics on the right. We would be good to have a strong leftward push to make up for the 30 years we already lost under Trump (left wing judges, executive order legalizing pot and forgiving student loans, undoing every Trump executive order, etc)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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538: Bernie Sanders now forecasted with best chance to Win Democratic Primary [View all] Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 OP

We're screwed if that's true. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1

Giving up so quickly? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #4

I'm not giving up the fight to be sure the nominee The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #7

If he is the nominee, I hope your tune changes quickly. We must be united. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #10

I will vote for the nominee, of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #17

Rigid ideologues get things done. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #21

Actually they don't because they can't get people to work for or with them. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #42

This! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #45

he also won't get any cross over vote imavoter Feb 2020 #57

Sanders has been voting with Democrats for years. Quit lying. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #84

Have a look at the various comments and tweets of his campaign staff The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #89

I'm very confident in the stance that Bernie has, not his staffers. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #94

If his staff are saying things that don't reflect his stance, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #102

Not as much as many would like to think. George II Feb 2020 #99

"Rigid ideologues get things done." His record tells us otherwise. krissey Feb 2020 #48

A lot gets accomplished under authoritarians... for instance, the trains run on time... ehrnst Feb 2020 #105

...they said, with no evidence in an entirely speculative and dismissive fashion. ehrnst Feb 2020 #110

Wow is that statement wrong and quite comical. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #122

so was Reagan. but this timr from the left. It's worth consideration. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #32

+1000 TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #20

We will ALL unite behind Bernie! COUNT ON IT! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #51

This Sanders supporter.... AverageJoe Feb 2020 #128

Predicting a winner of the GE before the first Primary is finished is over is wiser? ehrnst Feb 2020 #22

We sure are Tig! Glad to see ima better prognosticator than 538;been callin it for Bernie for YEARS! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #31

Well, there's this... ehrnst Feb 2020 #96

If it's bernie Horizens Feb 2020 #44

If Bernie wins the nomination we're looking at 4 more years redstateblues Feb 2020 #90

If Bernie is strong enough to beat out a very talented field to get the nomination totodeinhere Feb 2020 #93

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #2

... Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #3

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This message was self-deleted by its author stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #5

That means 4 more years of Trump . When will you ever learn. lynintenn Feb 2020 #8

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #12

So you think that Democrats can't be trusted to choose their favorite candidate? ehrnst Feb 2020 #23

I don't have an opinion of the Democratic/ Republican and Independent voters who Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #24

Are you saying that Democrats didn't choose the candidate? ehrnst Feb 2020 #25

No. I'm not saying that. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #27

That's what you're implying... that nearly four million votes could be attributed to ehrnst Feb 2020 #30

I don't really know what you're talking about exactly, so it is difficult to have this discussion. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #34

I'm talking about ***your*** implication that Republicans and Independents voting ehrnst Feb 2020 #40

Still don't know what you are talking about because none of that happened. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #41

No one, not even you, believes that you "don't know" what I'm talking about.. ehrnst Feb 2020 #49

Newsflash Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #53

Keep on telling yourself that you're convincing anyone. ehrnst Feb 2020 #60

I am legitimately confused. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #61

Keep on keeping on... ehrnst Feb 2020 #65

Thanks! Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #68

URTURN ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

Democratic voters didn't choose the candidate that we now know Russia and the GOP wanted ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

I live in a permanent state of confusion Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #77

Nothing you can do can convince me that your "confusion," ehrnst Feb 2020 #80

Well that is kind of you. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #82

Keep on keeping on... ehrnst Feb 2020 #83

Woah that guy is GOOD Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #95

Doesn't hold a candle to you! ehrnst Feb 2020 #98

You are absolutely right! It would be insanity to nominate sanders!! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #26

Joe can't seem to quit Iowa ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #39

The above post is a lot more than IA!! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #47

Of course dear, according to you ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #54

That is your opinion. Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #59

Of course it is, but coming in fourth is not my opinion ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #63

Your refusal to face other numbers other than Joe came in 4th, in the end will not serve well Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #71

Serve well? WTF I am your waiter now? ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #72

Subtly is lost... "dear" Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #85

No not really ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #92

Yeah, tired of losin! We learned by nominating Obama; now it's Bernie's time to finish the job InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #38

exactly - I've seen this movie before: people are sick and tired of the establishment - n/t Locrian Feb 2020 #43

Apparently you have not seen the many polls showing Bernie beating Trump. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #97

You mean the polls that don't take into account that he's been the favored Dem nominee of Russia ehrnst Feb 2020 #121

LOL. You know I didn't mean that. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #123

Your words, yes? ehrnst Feb 2020 #125

We will lose if that misogynist is our candidate. efhmc Feb 2020 #9

Badly!! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #11

I cannot think of one Texas Dem I know who wants him as a candidate. efhmc Feb 2020 #13

sadly my mother in law wants him as a candidate Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #35

538: Bernie projected to win Texas Primary Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #37

I certainly don't. imavoter Feb 2020 #67

I do davs797 Feb 2020 #87

Welcome to DU, davs797! JudyM Feb 2020 #137

And Trump is okay? YOHABLO Feb 2020 #88

...they said, with no evidence in an entirely speculative and dismissive fashion. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #15

There is a history. krissey Feb 2020 #19

See post 26 Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #29

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #101

If Bernie is the nominee, we are toast. :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #14

Bernie is proving he can win by actually winning primaries and caucuses. Biden is showing that he Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #18

Sanders won 1 caucus in an overwhelmingly white state that played to his strengths. bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #33

He's already won a total of 22 primaries and caucuses (in 2016), and is projected to win TX and CA Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #36

Of note from 538's projections: Sanders and Biden now have about equal chance of winning SC thesquanderer Feb 2020 #62

Is Bernie projected to get more delegates in SC than Joe? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #115

Here's the info on South Carolina... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #133

No he is not! His vote total in IA which he did not win, went from 40+ in 16 to 25+ in 2020 Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #56

Biden has run for President 3 times. This is the first time he made it to Iowa before dropping out Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #58

How many times has Bernie run for office and lost? ehrnst Feb 2020 #100

He's proven better at the president thing than Biden, though. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #111

Gonna try to slide right by that one..... ehrnst Feb 2020 #114

You lost me again. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #116

Yeah, I thought that would be a sore spot. ehrnst Feb 2020 #118

He hasn't won a caucus or primary yet. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #104

Actually...compared to others in the race... ehrnst Feb 2020 #107

Hey, at least he (Biden) did better than last time .... Locrian Feb 2020 #109

And ... Horizens Feb 2020 #52

Biden and Buttegieg camps assured that last fall. They must be so proud of blm Feb 2020 #16

To quote a Biden supporter and DONOR ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #28

it's obvious even the establishment thinks he's not "it" Locrian Feb 2020 #46

Yes when even the "popular kids" are now hiding from you ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #50

First of all, from the very beginning, all of the other candidates were... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #75

Nope. They attacked her as dishonest. That she is connng people. blm Feb 2020 #86

The main attacks that I saw on Warren, other than at the debates, were from people writing articles Sloumeau Feb 2020 #108

You weren't paying attention as much as you think. blm Feb 2020 #113

What Utter Bullshit - Until We Get to SC This is a Foolish Assesment Indykatie Feb 2020 #55

Indeed..also notice even 538 has not addressed the issue of sanders dismal polling with AA Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #64

There are some indications that AA support for Biden is slipping in South Carolina. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #119

I've read many opinions stating out loud that Sanders can't win. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #66

+10,000 Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #69

It doesn't change the facts that the gop is rigging our primary. Sanders the nominee we will lose Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #79

Most depressing thing I've read all day. If Sanders is our nominee, the GOP will take him highplainsdem Feb 2020 #73

And there are mountains of material the gop is amassing to use against him Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #81

They are going to take apart any Democratic nominee. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #91

Not the way they're going to be able to take Sanders apart. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #103

Oh do tell. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #106

You'll see, if we're unfortunate enough to get stuck with Sanders as the nominee. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #120

Well the moderate Dems will be doing the job for them. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #124

Given Sanders' attacks on his rivals, why should they let him continue to get away with as highplainsdem Feb 2020 #127

Get away with what? We already know where Sander's warts are. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #129

Most Democrats don't, let alone the wider electorate. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #130

Well, yeah you got me there. Most of the electorate are ignorant. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #131

Third place behind "nobody"? That's brutal. Autumn Feb 2020 #74

not going to happen chillfactor Feb 2020 #78

Anecdotally, I have a number of independent friends, my spouse included, that won't vote for Bernie redstateblues Feb 2020 #117

Where have I heard that before? Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #112

Bernie for America!! AverageJoe Feb 2020 #126

He won't win. Firestorm49 Feb 2020 #132

I don't think Nate Silver's model takes into account just how..shall we say "polarizing" OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #134

Bernie's advantage Wabbajack_ Feb 2020 #135

A week agao, all the detractors LOVED 538 when Joe was ahead in their model. lol bluewater Feb 2020 #136