Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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95. Yes, again, no one said that those weren't your thoughts on the issue....

Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:26 PM

Feb 2020

I was responding to this, since you seem to have lost track of the conversation:

The "we aren't owed anyone's vote" is a declaration of my thoughts on this issue. I said that. If you want an example of me saying it, read that post again. Or, here, I don't believe we are owed anyone's votes. Said it again.

Look familiar?

Also....still waiting for those examples of DU posts that support your claims of recent widespread blanket dismissals on DU of young voters as a group, of being stupid or lazy or not worth the attention of Democrats - at least as much as Democrats seem to be paying to POC...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If our nominee can't get POC out to vote we're toast [View all] redstateblues Feb 2020 OP

So, Sanders? HowardZinnfandel Feb 2020 #1

Shhhhhhh.... you're not supposed to say positive things about Bernie!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #79

You don't think people of color have any incentive to remove Trump? ZZenith Feb 2020 #2

I don't think they will all vote for us if we choose a nominee that doesn't have much AA support... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #128

Joe Biden has the highest % with POC as Cha Feb 2020 #3

Not in Iowa he didn't. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #4

Biden holds wide lead among black voters in Democratic presidential race, Post-Ipsos poll finds Here Cha Feb 2020 #6

Well, actual people who voted Monday say different. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #8

In one state in Caucus voting. That has yet to change Biden's AA support or Sanders' and emmaverybo Feb 2020 #19

The proof will be in the future votes. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #88

Yes. Our theories, models, and polls will be tested. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #92

Caucus voters of EVERY color are different from primary voters. pnwmom Feb 2020 #9

Do you have verifiable statistics for that or is it your opinion? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #29

Nothing but TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #81

Exactly what I thought. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #82

Can you provide the stats that Bernie cleaned up with the 11% of the Iowa population ehrnst Feb 2020 #37

. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #83

Yep. ehrnst Feb 2020 #93

I feel like its all going to work out. Thats all I got BootinUp Feb 2020 #5

I think POC will crawl over broken glass to get to the polls to vote against Trump.... scheming daemons Feb 2020 #7

I think you're overly optimistic. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #10

POC are the most impacted by the Trump administration.... scheming daemons Feb 2020 #11

I'm still hoping for someone POC care about Cha Feb 2020 #13

I don't disagree. But Joe needs a strong NH showing. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #15

I hope so! Cha Feb 2020 #16

True . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #28

Could be, and maybe because he maligns Obama so much. Obama's legacy R B Garr Feb 2020 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Afromania Feb 2020 #103

That may be true. But why is it that POC are assumed to be willing to break their necks StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #87

Because too many "liberals" with white privilege don't live with the same threat scheming daemons Feb 2020 #90

They didn't in 2016 redstateblues Feb 2020 #113

Trump was a cartoon character then. Many didn't see just how bad he would be. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #114

Agreed Gothmog Feb 2020 #12

"20K black people decided they rather not vote in WIS & MI"???? dansolo Feb 2020 #20

Thank you StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #100

Here they are at it again hitching that black people aren't saving democracy from their fucking own. Afromania Feb 2020 #106

Thank YOU! StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #107

Yup. SaschaHM Feb 2020 #14

excellent point. nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #17

Thank you for those.. Yes, Excellent points, Sascha! Cha Feb 2020 #18

"Democrat party?" Seriously? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #27

"Democrat" party? ehrnst Feb 2020 #44

Yep just getting out the vote treestar Feb 2020 #51

Democrat Party? That's a tell redstateblues Feb 2020 #63

This! n/t MFGsunny Feb 2020 #70

Question Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #21

Question: Can you point out who is calling youth "dumb and selfish?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #22

You can read. Pick anything that talks about Sanders and the youth vote. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #25

So you can't provide any examples. Got it. ehrnst Feb 2020 #30

That's not a straw man. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #32

Yes it is, and you continue to flog away at it. ehrnst Feb 2020 #34

I fully admit Sanders has issues with POC and I wish he did better. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #40

How long ago was that civil rights activism? ehrnst Feb 2020 #43

I admitted he has problems re: POC. What more do I need to say? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #47

Still no examples to back up your claim. ehrnst Feb 2020 #54

"No one said that those weren't your thoughts on the issue." Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #57

Yes, again, no one said that those weren't your thoughts on the issue.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #95

I don't think highly of anyone who looks at Sanders' Hortensis Feb 2020 #33

Yes, once again C.A. attacks a straw man when the facts become too uncomfortable. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #35

Um, you might want to look right up there Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #49

Nope, not the same as dismissing young voters as a whole as you claimed. ehrnst Feb 2020 #56

That's one post. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #58

It's mocking **a single voter,*** not dismissing youth voters as a group, as you claim. ehrnst Feb 2020 #61

No, it was a comment that she'd get kicked out for bad grades Hortensis Feb 2020 #72

I'd probably go with Steyer. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #73

Steyer talks about it a lot, and he has some past creds to Hortensis Feb 2020 #76

Voting as personal expression... It's a damn civic duty... ehrnst Feb 2020 #94

Very well said. People would do far better to choose their plumbers Hortensis Feb 2020 #98

You see? Your accusations of someone singling out this blond woman for race and gender ehrnst Feb 2020 #96

We can differ on how good of a President we think Sanders would be. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #48

You're trying to inply reverse racism/sexism by someone else now ? ehrnst Feb 2020 #64

Here's a thread for you Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #50

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

because the young continually refuse to vote in huge numbers dsc Feb 2020 #23

Do they do that only when they are "motivated" or all the time? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #24

You really have an issue with the Democratic concern about POC and how they will vote. ehrnst Feb 2020 #31

I don't. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #36

You still haven't provided any examples of what you claim "DU seems to say" ehrnst Feb 2020 #39

Honestly. If you haven't seen the dismissal of young voters by people who don't like Sanders Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #41

Well, then you should have no problem sharing some links then. ehrnst Feb 2020 #42

Next time I see one, I'll point it out to you. Deal? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #46

So you can't find any now that support your claim? ehrnst Feb 2020 #60

Here's another one. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #115

Not seeing where anyone is calling them lazy. Just pointing out that they are not a bloc that ehrnst Feb 2020 #117

Oh, look. Another one. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #116

There's one person expressing frustration with their phone use, and ehrnst Feb 2020 #118

And the POC don't demand "inspiration" treestar Feb 2020 #55

The POC don't seem to say they will stay home treestar Feb 2020 #52

That's awesome. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #53

And a party ignores its base who has been there for the party in numbers ehrnst Feb 2020 #97

+1111111 KPN Feb 2020 #80

Are you serious? StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #89

If anyone does not vote, that is purely on them. GemDigger Feb 2020 #26

Not just POC but people period.. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #38

Of all the Democrats....which has harmed NedBraden Feb 2020 #45

If our nominee can't get white voters out to vote we're toast Devil Child Feb 2020 #59

I think People of Color... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #62

POC are not a monolith JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #65

From a policy perspective, Buttigieg outranks all of the remaining nominees. Politicub Feb 2020 #67

"reparations"??? , Yeah, you go with that...say hello to 4 more years of trump. Fix The Stupid Feb 2020 #68

Why? Politicub Feb 2020 #69

Bernie increased his share of POC in Iowa from 34% in 2016 to 43% Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #71

Agree 100% Bucky Feb 2020 #74

You think that we POC will sit out the election because the one we like isn't the nominee? Autumn Feb 2020 #75

the people that need to be on the speed dial of any Dem nominee DonCoquixote Feb 2020 #77

Isn't that also on POC? KPN Feb 2020 #78

Brave post...good luck. The pitchforks are coming... n/t Fix The Stupid Feb 2020 #86

Yes, the irony is that both of them don't have great numbers with POC. R B Garr Feb 2020 #85

A response to the if you can't get "white voters out" people. SaschaHM Feb 2020 #91

sanders problems are not going to go away Gothmog Feb 2020 #99

I agree radical noodle Feb 2020 #101

For this thread Gothmog Feb 2020 #102

Huh? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #104

I can't imagine POC evertonfc Feb 2020 #105

Bernie and Pete are not winning the primary without AA support. Shame on those who don't care emmaverybo Feb 2020 #109

They didn't come out for Hillary in the numbers she needed redstateblues Feb 2020 #112

Who would that be? Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #108

People conviently forget that Hillary was the POC choice in Febuary 2008 demofan40 Feb 2020 #110

Small sampling but Wow. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #111

Looks accurate actually ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #119

I'm hoping Pete kneecaps Bernie in NH and then Biden muddles through Nevada then to S. Carolina. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #120

Could happen, and ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #122

They've been there since forever. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #123

Amen to that!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #121

Neither sanders nor Mayor Pete will be able to turnout this block Gothmog Feb 2020 #124

From AMJOY Gothmog Feb 2020 #125

POC need to just like everyone else choose kacekwl Feb 2020 #126

Too many Democrats stayed home in 2016. Laelth Feb 2020 #127

For this thread Gothmog Feb 2020 #129

Your basing this on Iowa and New Hampshire Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #130