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Gothmog

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99. sanders problems are not going to go away

Reply to redstateblues (Original post)

Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:06 PM

Feb 2020

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If our nominee can't get POC out to vote we're toast [View all] redstateblues Feb 2020 OP

So, Sanders? HowardZinnfandel Feb 2020 #1

Shhhhhhh.... you're not supposed to say positive things about Bernie!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #79

You don't think people of color have any incentive to remove Trump? ZZenith Feb 2020 #2

I don't think they will all vote for us if we choose a nominee that doesn't have much AA support... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #128

Joe Biden has the highest % with POC as Cha Feb 2020 #3

Not in Iowa he didn't. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #4

Biden holds wide lead among black voters in Democratic presidential race, Post-Ipsos poll finds Here Cha Feb 2020 #6

Well, actual people who voted Monday say different. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #8

In one state in Caucus voting. That has yet to change Biden's AA support or Sanders' and emmaverybo Feb 2020 #19

The proof will be in the future votes. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #88

Yes. Our theories, models, and polls will be tested. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #92

Caucus voters of EVERY color are different from primary voters. pnwmom Feb 2020 #9

Do you have verifiable statistics for that or is it your opinion? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #29

Nothing but TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #81

Exactly what I thought. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #82

Can you provide the stats that Bernie cleaned up with the 11% of the Iowa population ehrnst Feb 2020 #37

. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #83

Yep. ehrnst Feb 2020 #93

I feel like its all going to work out. Thats all I got BootinUp Feb 2020 #5

I think POC will crawl over broken glass to get to the polls to vote against Trump.... scheming daemons Feb 2020 #7

I think you're overly optimistic. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #10

POC are the most impacted by the Trump administration.... scheming daemons Feb 2020 #11

I'm still hoping for someone POC care about Cha Feb 2020 #13

I don't disagree. But Joe needs a strong NH showing. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #15

I hope so! Cha Feb 2020 #16

True . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #28

Could be, and maybe because he maligns Obama so much. Obama's legacy R B Garr Feb 2020 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Afromania Feb 2020 #103

That may be true. But why is it that POC are assumed to be willing to break their necks StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #87

Because too many "liberals" with white privilege don't live with the same threat scheming daemons Feb 2020 #90

They didn't in 2016 redstateblues Feb 2020 #113

Trump was a cartoon character then. Many didn't see just how bad he would be. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #114

Agreed Gothmog Feb 2020 #12

"20K black people decided they rather not vote in WIS & MI"???? dansolo Feb 2020 #20

Thank you StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #100

Here they are at it again hitching that black people aren't saving democracy from their fucking own. Afromania Feb 2020 #106

Thank YOU! StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #107

Yup. SaschaHM Feb 2020 #14

excellent point. nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #17

Thank you for those.. Yes, Excellent points, Sascha! Cha Feb 2020 #18

"Democrat party?" Seriously? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #27

"Democrat" party? ehrnst Feb 2020 #44

Yep just getting out the vote treestar Feb 2020 #51

Democrat Party? That's a tell redstateblues Feb 2020 #63

This! n/t MFGsunny Feb 2020 #70

Question Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #21

Question: Can you point out who is calling youth "dumb and selfish?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #22

You can read. Pick anything that talks about Sanders and the youth vote. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #25

So you can't provide any examples. Got it. ehrnst Feb 2020 #30

That's not a straw man. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #32

Yes it is, and you continue to flog away at it. ehrnst Feb 2020 #34

I fully admit Sanders has issues with POC and I wish he did better. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #40

How long ago was that civil rights activism? ehrnst Feb 2020 #43

I admitted he has problems re: POC. What more do I need to say? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #47

Still no examples to back up your claim. ehrnst Feb 2020 #54

"No one said that those weren't your thoughts on the issue." Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #57

Yes, again, no one said that those weren't your thoughts on the issue.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #95

I don't think highly of anyone who looks at Sanders' Hortensis Feb 2020 #33

Yes, once again C.A. attacks a straw man when the facts become too uncomfortable. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #35

Um, you might want to look right up there Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #49

Nope, not the same as dismissing young voters as a whole as you claimed. ehrnst Feb 2020 #56

That's one post. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #58

It's mocking **a single voter,*** not dismissing youth voters as a group, as you claim. ehrnst Feb 2020 #61

No, it was a comment that she'd get kicked out for bad grades Hortensis Feb 2020 #72

I'd probably go with Steyer. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #73

Steyer talks about it a lot, and he has some past creds to Hortensis Feb 2020 #76

Voting as personal expression... It's a damn civic duty... ehrnst Feb 2020 #94

Very well said. People would do far better to choose their plumbers Hortensis Feb 2020 #98

You see? Your accusations of someone singling out this blond woman for race and gender ehrnst Feb 2020 #96

We can differ on how good of a President we think Sanders would be. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #48

You're trying to inply reverse racism/sexism by someone else now ? ehrnst Feb 2020 #64

Here's a thread for you Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #50

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

because the young continually refuse to vote in huge numbers dsc Feb 2020 #23

Do they do that only when they are "motivated" or all the time? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #24

You really have an issue with the Democratic concern about POC and how they will vote. ehrnst Feb 2020 #31

I don't. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #36

You still haven't provided any examples of what you claim "DU seems to say" ehrnst Feb 2020 #39

Honestly. If you haven't seen the dismissal of young voters by people who don't like Sanders Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #41

Well, then you should have no problem sharing some links then. ehrnst Feb 2020 #42

Next time I see one, I'll point it out to you. Deal? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #46

So you can't find any now that support your claim? ehrnst Feb 2020 #60

Here's another one. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #115

Not seeing where anyone is calling them lazy. Just pointing out that they are not a bloc that ehrnst Feb 2020 #117

Oh, look. Another one. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #116

There's one person expressing frustration with their phone use, and ehrnst Feb 2020 #118

And the POC don't demand "inspiration" treestar Feb 2020 #55

The POC don't seem to say they will stay home treestar Feb 2020 #52

That's awesome. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #53

And a party ignores its base who has been there for the party in numbers ehrnst Feb 2020 #97

+1111111 KPN Feb 2020 #80

Are you serious? StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #89

If anyone does not vote, that is purely on them. GemDigger Feb 2020 #26

Not just POC but people period.. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #38

Of all the Democrats....which has harmed NedBraden Feb 2020 #45

If our nominee can't get white voters out to vote we're toast Devil Child Feb 2020 #59

I think People of Color... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #62

POC are not a monolith JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #65

From a policy perspective, Buttigieg outranks all of the remaining nominees. Politicub Feb 2020 #67

"reparations"??? , Yeah, you go with that...say hello to 4 more years of trump. Fix The Stupid Feb 2020 #68

Why? Politicub Feb 2020 #69

Bernie increased his share of POC in Iowa from 34% in 2016 to 43% Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #71

Agree 100% Bucky Feb 2020 #74

You think that we POC will sit out the election because the one we like isn't the nominee? Autumn Feb 2020 #75

the people that need to be on the speed dial of any Dem nominee DonCoquixote Feb 2020 #77

Isn't that also on POC? KPN Feb 2020 #78

Brave post...good luck. The pitchforks are coming... n/t Fix The Stupid Feb 2020 #86

Yes, the irony is that both of them don't have great numbers with POC. R B Garr Feb 2020 #85

A response to the if you can't get "white voters out" people. SaschaHM Feb 2020 #91

sanders problems are not going to go away Gothmog Feb 2020 #99

I agree radical noodle Feb 2020 #101

For this thread Gothmog Feb 2020 #102

Huh? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #104

I can't imagine POC evertonfc Feb 2020 #105

Bernie and Pete are not winning the primary without AA support. Shame on those who don't care emmaverybo Feb 2020 #109

They didn't come out for Hillary in the numbers she needed redstateblues Feb 2020 #112

Who would that be? Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #108

People conviently forget that Hillary was the POC choice in Febuary 2008 demofan40 Feb 2020 #110

Small sampling but Wow. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #111

Looks accurate actually ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #119

I'm hoping Pete kneecaps Bernie in NH and then Biden muddles through Nevada then to S. Carolina. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #120

Could happen, and ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #122

They've been there since forever. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #123

Amen to that!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #121

Neither sanders nor Mayor Pete will be able to turnout this block Gothmog Feb 2020 #124

From AMJOY Gothmog Feb 2020 #125

POC need to just like everyone else choose kacekwl Feb 2020 #126

Too many Democrats stayed home in 2016. Laelth Feb 2020 #127

For this thread Gothmog Feb 2020 #129

Your basing this on Iowa and New Hampshire Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #130