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ehrnst

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152. After what came out in January of 2018...

Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:24 PM

Feb 2020

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/bernie-sanders-campaign-harassment-1077014

One would THINK that the campaign would strongly discourage staffers from chanting misogynistic rants...like "F**k Warren!"

Doesn't bode well for them having learned the lessons that one would expect after that highly publicized day long meeting they had about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Scenes from the Iowa Democratic Meltdown, Bernie supporters chant 'F*ck Warren.' [View all] wyldwolf Feb 2020 OP

NEWSFLASH: A drunk in a bar shouted something. bluewater Feb 2020 #1

Biden supporters seem very concerned. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #16

I, too, shall note the concern... bluewater Feb 2020 #17

Sure beats dealing straight on with the facts ehrnst Feb 2020 #85

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... bluewater Feb 2020 #94

Copy and paste, copy and paste... ehrnst Feb 2020 #105

Not really Cha Feb 2020 #218

My great Nan had a saying ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #18

Love it! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #63

Yes, like when their candidate is not living up to their own and their supporters' hype.. ehrnst Feb 2020 #95

lol Cha Feb 2020 #207

Not just Biden supporters who are "concerned." You have to admit, it's not the first time this kind ehrnst Feb 2020 #80

Who wouldn't be? Cha Feb 2020 #216

NEWSFLASH II: it was more than a drunk in a bar. George II Feb 2020 #25

SHHHHHH!!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Feb 2020 #32

NEWSFLASH III: Update.. it was several drunks in a bar! bluewater Feb 2020 #34

I just don't see campaign workers being disrespectful about opposing candidates a laughing matter. George II Feb 2020 #35

You mean like saying "Bernie needs to be ground to a pulp"? That kind of disrespectful? DanTex Feb 2020 #56

Who said that? So I guess you don't have a problem with an organized chant of "F* Warren". George II Feb 2020 #58

Would you have a problem if anyone said that? A high level Dem operative perhaps? DanTex Feb 2020 #59

Would you give it a pass if it was any other candidate's soiree... ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

Here's what Bernie said about personal emails hacked by Russia: betsuni Feb 2020 #140

Which shows what an honorable person and team player Bernie is. DanTex Feb 2020 #141

Those "drunk supporters" sure do get AROUND, don't they? ehrnst Feb 2020 #143

Bernie said the primary wasn't rigged: "That's not rigged. I think it's just a dumb process which betsuni Feb 2020 #181

Tell us when those staffers publicly yell "f*ck Sanders" and all the other candidates, in public ehrnst Feb 2020 #191

Did someone say that? Otherwise it's a hypothetical like "when did you stop beating your wife?". George II Feb 2020 #149

I can assure you it's not hypothetical. So what's your answer? DanTex Feb 2020 #150

As far as I know, no one said that so it's a moot point. George II Feb 2020 #151

LOL. That's a dodge. Like all the other anti-Bernie stuff, this is all just more faux outrage. DanTex Feb 2020 #153

You're implying something in a hypothetical question but not saying if it really happened. George II Feb 2020 #156

It did really happen. DanTex Feb 2020 #157

So why don't you want to say that it was in an email? ehrnst Feb 2020 #172

A dodge is when one doesn't want to admit the source of their outrage is ehrnst Feb 2020 #187

LOL. You're saying low-level supporters drinking in a bar is *worse* than DanTex Feb 2020 #189

So you are trying to dismiss the staffers of one campaign shouting epithets about other ehrnst Feb 2020 #190

Oh look - more "drinking in a bar" ehrnst Feb 2020 #204

Whataboutism for the win!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #67

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... bluewater Feb 2020 #83

Anything to avoid dealing with the facts, eh? ehrnst Feb 2020 #87

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... bluewater Feb 2020 #92

The "I know you are but what am I?" reposte... ehrnst Feb 2020 #93

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... bluewater Feb 2020 #96

Copy and paste, copy and paste... ehrnst Feb 2020 #97

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... bluewater Feb 2020 #100

Keep on kicking the OP! ehrnst Feb 2020 #107

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... bluewater Feb 2020 #111

Keep on kicking the OP! ehrnst Feb 2020 #118

"Fish ain't biting, Sweetie darlin'." bluewater Feb 2020 #120

Keep on kicking the OP! ehrnst Feb 2020 #122

"Fish ain't biting, babe. bluewater Feb 2020 #128

Keep kicking the OP! ehrnst Feb 2020 #129

"Honey Bun." ? This level of misogyny goes to far. bluewater Feb 2020 #132

Keep kicking the OP! ehrnst Feb 2020 #135

I use to hate when my records were scratched. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #163

Yeah, I remember that too. One reason that vinyl was replaced. ehrnst Feb 2020 #164

Yes.. prompt! Cha Feb 2020 #210

What campaign supporters were saying this en masse? ehrnst Feb 2020 #110

I still haven't gotten an answer. Do the people complaining about a Bernie supporter blowing DanTex Feb 2020 #119

That's one way to evade having to put your money where your mouth is, isn't it? ehrnst Feb 2020 #124

Another dodge by you. Everyone dodging a simple question. LOL. DanTex Feb 2020 #125

"I know you are but what am I?" non-answer ehrnst Feb 2020 #131

Snap! Cha Feb 2020 #173

Didn't BS promise that the campaign would work harder to keep in check lapucelle Feb 2020 #167

I know, right? ehrnst Feb 2020 #182

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #183

uh huh Cha Feb 2020 #200

that's just saying we want to beat Bernie treestar Feb 2020 #194

Not to mention numerous times.. and after the revelations of January of last year, ehrnst Feb 2020 #148

It's really Cha Feb 2020 #208

Looks like this hit a deep, deep nerve... ehrnst Feb 2020 #45

lol bluewater Feb 2020 #49

Lol... ehrnst Feb 2020 #50

Yeah.. the deflection didn't work. Cha Feb 2020 #219

I guess that's way easier than reading what actually happened... ehrnst Feb 2020 #31

Please point to where supporters of any other candidate mcar Feb 2020 #43

Like "Bernie needs to be ground to a pulp", for example? DanTex Feb 2020 #81

Huh? mcar Feb 2020 #84

Would that be the kind of example you're looking for? Of campaigns behaving badly. DanTex Feb 2020 #88

Speaking of examples: ehrnst Feb 2020 #89

Could you provide some context? mcar Feb 2020 #106

Join the club. ehrnst Feb 2020 #109

It's a simple question. Would you consider "Bernie needs to be ground to a pulp" DanTex Feb 2020 #130

So are all these people the same 'few drunk supporters?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #133

I have asked you to provide context mcar Feb 2020 #169

You're outraged about an email, and think it negates those real actions of the Sanders staffers ehrnst Feb 2020 #188

I am guessing it's referencing this Sapient Donkey Feb 2020 #139

You have said that twice. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #108

This is some strange whataboutism, she mcar Feb 2020 #115

I'm waiting for an answer. Haven't got one yet. DanTex Feb 2020 #117

You haven't answered where campaign supporters in any other campaign are doing similar. ehrnst Feb 2020 #121

I asked first! Give me an answer, and then I'll point you to who said it. DanTex Feb 2020 #123

No, actually you didn't. And like a particular candidate, you like to evade really uncomfortable ehrnst Feb 2020 #127

Your example was not meant to be public treestar Feb 2020 #193

Does that make it different? Do you think the people in the bar were making a public statement? DanTex Feb 2020 #195

Being in a bar is in public treestar Feb 2020 #196

So you really think that makes all the difference. DanTex Feb 2020 #197

We wouldn't know about it except second hand at a private party treestar Feb 2020 #198

It is different when it's public than within the office, yes. ehrnst Feb 2020 #212

Yes, it does. Yes they did. ehrnst Feb 2020 #211

You are waiting for an answer about a claim you have not substantiated. mcar Feb 2020 #170

"Prove a negative" fallacy ehrnst Feb 2020 #186

classy Cha Feb 2020 #2

Also typical. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #4

Predictable Cha Feb 2020 #11

That's what I meant. Typical for them. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #14

+10,000. "the audience answered back." ehrnst Feb 2020 #36

Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #39

I wonder if... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #40

Precisely. "Drunk" or "stoned" is excusing away people showing their real selves....(nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #57

When they show you who they are, believe them. nt sheshe2 Feb 2020 #64

Especially after the 10th or 20th time they do so. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

Come on Ehrnst, they are just kids funning around.nt sheshe2 Feb 2020 #78

Yeah, I know. We just expect too much from kids, don't we? ehrnst Feb 2020 #99

Yes! emmaverybo Feb 2020 #73

Thanks, emma! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #79

It's not just that I agree, but what a sharp argument. You can go up in front of a jury with it. So emmaverybo Feb 2020 #91

Beat me to it. Not very Democratic either. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #53

There was an earlier thread about this, but the subject line was vague, didn't mention what they highplainsdem Feb 2020 #3

I completely abhor that kind of behavior. Kentonio Feb 2020 #5

Then I'm sure that Sanders will decry it as well. ehrnst Feb 2020 #27

That is the correct response no matter who the supporters are. Thank-you still_one Feb 2020 #37

if it is even true questionseverything Feb 2020 #69

All those people there who joined in were not one drunk... ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

You saw them booing Hillary a few nights earlier - including ELECTED officials. LisaM Feb 2020 #185

thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #113

Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #206

This Is The People He Attracts? Me. Feb 2020 #6

+1 R B Garr Feb 2020 #12

Yes. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #22

Yes, I remember seeing the video of then screaming "LOCK HER UP!" ehrnst Feb 2020 #146

This seems like crap that's trying to divide us. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #7

It could be a pos' republican doing it Steam93 Feb 2020 #29

Quite likely. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #48

Or it could be the free press reporting something that actually happened. ehrnst Feb 2020 #51

Those are not mutually exclusive ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #155

But this isn't an isolated incident. ehrnst Feb 2020 #158

Nope. At -best-, they're rude. ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #168

You'd think that after what came out in January 2018 that his campaign would ehrnst Feb 2020 #174

A whole crowd of them got jobs on Sanders staff to do this? ehrnst Feb 2020 #160

Well, I heard that a supporter said BLAH and this other guy said BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #8

That's it. He's dead to me now! zackymilly Feb 2020 #10

Well, some anonymous nobody somewhere was an asshole, so that's the logical BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #13

Yeah a whole crowd of anonymous nobodies, I guess. ehrnst Feb 2020 #159

Illustrative relevance can be inconvenient. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #15

Extraneous Irrelevancies can be Serviceable Distractions bluewater Feb 2020 #21

Nervous Laughter, Clearly... ehrnst Feb 2020 #62

Yeah, because that's what journalists always do, isn't it? ehrnst Feb 2020 #55

Hey. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #126

Yeah, it's not like it's happened before! ehrnst Feb 2020 #145

And Sanders seriously expects the supporters of these candidate to vote for him??? Zolorp Feb 2020 #9

Bloomberg News party: 'Nobody went outside to smoke' denem Feb 2020 #19

classy... Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #20

Exactly... ehrnst Feb 2020 #23

Oh, classy! This isn't the first time. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #24

Not by a long shot... ehrnst Feb 2020 #28

This is why caucuses are a VERY bad idea. People are bullied. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #30

Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #41

Word. ehrnst Feb 2020 #75

... Scurrilous Feb 2020 #98

Smells like disinformation. polichick Feb 2020 #33

Care to tell us why? ehrnst Feb 2020 #38

Talk about confirmation bias! Those presenting the claim need to show facts. polichick Feb 2020 #42

So you got nothing. ehrnst Feb 2020 #44

So far, there's nothing in the claim... polichick Feb 2020 #46

You are pooh-poohing journalists from a valid free press source as propaganda. ehrnst Feb 2020 #47

Simply silly. I'm supporting both Bernie and Warren... polichick Feb 2020 #60

This is about what happened in Iowa.... who one supports shouldn't affect one's ehrnst Feb 2020 #65

It's also about ridiculous assumptions, but nice try. polichick Feb 2020 #68

If one considers any assumption that doesn't confirm one's bias to be 'ridiculous' ehrnst Feb 2020 #72

Well in the second paragraph there is an incorrect statement but not related to the politics . lunasun Feb 2020 #86

Hmm, interesting catch! polichick Feb 2020 #90

Well, hope springs eternal, don't it? ehrnst Feb 2020 #101

Second time I've read this weird "correction". OilemFirchen Feb 2020 #147

Well, there are some who are incredibly disturbed at the implications of the OP ehrnst Feb 2020 #165

I get that, of course. OilemFirchen Feb 2020 #175

I think that someone has decided to make it a talking point. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #177

If the L train they were talking about was in NYC.... then it's not incorrect. ehrnst Feb 2020 #166

NH will be different MFM008 Feb 2020 #52

Bros gotta Bro, Bro The Polack MSgt Feb 2020 #54

But it's all about policy, they say... betsuni Feb 2020 #61

Ha! Cha Feb 2020 #71

TOTALLY!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #74

I'm beginning to wonder if some "Warren" supporters, on DU, are actually Bernie supporters - hmmm... Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #77

I saw similar conduct at the National Convention by vetted sanders delegates Gothmog Feb 2020 #82

Thank you! Cha Feb 2020 #102

I am still upset by sanders vetted delegates calling my daughter the c-word Gothmog Feb 2020 #179

Wow... THE SAME DRUNK GUY was responsible for those things at all those events? ehrnst Feb 2020 #103

But a guy said Bernie must be ground to a pulp once so nothing Bernie supporters do counts. betsuni Feb 2020 #112

Yes, I heard that it was said IN AN EMAIL no less!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #116

I wish that these were not isolated incidents Gothmog Feb 2020 #178

It's hard to get other Sanders supporters to admit this behavior exists. LisaM Feb 2020 #134

Yes, that's been shown time and time again. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #138

sanders was asked to step in and stop this behavior at the convention Gothmog Feb 2020 #180

I've had about enough of this shit! Bayard Feb 2020 #104

So journalists should be prohibited from writing such pieces? ehrnst Feb 2020 #114

I'm not talking about the article, Bayard Feb 2020 #136

OK, gotcha! Mea culpa. ehrnst Feb 2020 #137

I love Bernie, I love Warren and I love Biden. This is bad optics and Sanders needs to crack heads. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #142

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #144

Sounds like the 'Bros.. whathehell Feb 2020 #202

After what came out in January of 2018... ehrnst Feb 2020 #152

Better to leave this classy stuff Turbineguy Feb 2020 #154

Hang the blessed DJ already. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #161

What untenable and dangerous dynamic? What toxic predatory culture? lapucelle Feb 2020 #162

Fuckers. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #171

As one can see, this too will be justified and/or defended with whataboutism NYMinute Feb 2020 #176

A Biden supporter cut me off on the way to work this morning. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #184

You just did Cha Feb 2020 #203

Stay classy Berners Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #192

There is a pattern here Gothmog Feb 2020 #199

Why is all this happening? bamagal62 Feb 2020 #201

SNL had fun with sanders and his nasty supporters Gothmog Feb 2020 #205

sanders supporters are doxxing Union leaders Gothmog Feb 2020 #209

Maybe they were from another campaign.... or a 400 lbs guy on his bed robbedvoter Feb 2020 #213

There is a pattern Gothmog Feb 2020 #214

And the former head of the Democratic Party in Iowa has been receiving death threats Peacetrain Feb 2020 #215

This stunt fits a pattern Gothmog Feb 2020 #217