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50. Yes, fear of misogyny probably a big factor

Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:04 PM

Feb 2020

If media reports from Iowa and New Hampshire can be believed (and I would add to those anecdotal accounts of the decisions and indecisions of friends and family), people are desperate to determine the candidate they think can win (read: defeat Trump). Policies and everything else aside.

I do think the "woman can't win" fear factor injected by Sanders has landed squarely on her head. Add to that the rather male dominated demographics of the further left (all the candidates are "left" ), people in that camp have headed for the pater familias.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Can anyone explain why Elizabeth Warren isn't doing better? [View all] Mike 03 Feb 2020 OP

She is not attacking other Democrats. denem Feb 2020 #1

This too. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #2

yw denem Feb 2020 #6

"She is not attacking other Democrats" left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #9

No I did not. denem Feb 2020 #17

She attacked Pete in the debate Friday left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #19

No she didn't rockfordfile Feb 2020 #74

I suspect she'll be out after NH n/t left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #21

Nice. denem Feb 2020 #25

Nah. She organized early in 31 states to withstand initial losses blm Feb 2020 #37

Where have you been during BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #42

Lots of implicit bias, methinks left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #44

Res ipsa loquitur. eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #46

Doesn't apply in this case left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #48

It does. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #49

Its true, but you can't 'nice' your way into the presidency. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #62

If you are a female candidate, if you don't go "nice" you will be bashed as ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

I don't think so. Kamala hit Joe hard and she rose. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #79

I guess you weren't on twitter? She was called a "nothing but a g-damn cop" ehrnst Feb 2020 #80

Right. So not shrill. Some people will push back when you go hard. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #87

Actually, yes, there were plenty of examples on Twitter calling Harris "shrill" ehrnst Feb 2020 #99

I'm as puzzled as you are, for all the same reasons. Ohiogal Feb 2020 #3

If it was Bailey for President denem Feb 2020 #7

I don't think she's getting PatSeg Feb 2020 #20

Totally agree with this. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #31

I found it rather odd PatSeg Feb 2020 #61

She's a woman. CrispyQ Feb 2020 #4

Every time I hear her talk superpatriotman Feb 2020 #5

Warren says how she will get things done, denem Feb 2020 #10

I don't either, but suspect it was the distortions and misrepresentations from her competitors still_one Feb 2020 #8

Medicare for All freepotter Feb 2020 #56

Warren already addressed that by saying people can keep their existing plan if they like it still_one Feb 2020 #57

Which means it's not "Medicare For All" Recursion Feb 2020 #101

A lot of people don't understand the issue MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #95

I think she and Bernie have a very similar focus and ideology and Bernie has an established walkingman Feb 2020 #11

She is an assassin facing down the corrupt. She has blm Feb 2020 #39

Psst - It's not her gender left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #12

Psst - Bullshit. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #105

Male or female left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #108

One reason is the MSM wants political melodrama whereas smart woman Warren makes too much sense. Ford_Prefect Feb 2020 #13

CASE IN POINT: She just finished a strong 3rd in Iowa ahead of frontrunner Biden bluewater Feb 2020 #14

Yes, she did well in Iowa. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #26

+1 Merlot Feb 2020 #27

Maybe likability? Cicada Feb 2020 #15

It's not about personality, it's about policy Merlot Feb 2020 #30

That is such crap, IMO. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #45

Well I do want a woman president squirecam Feb 2020 #53

... BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #54

Same! DrToast Feb 2020 #55

Yup. ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #60

Wealth tax MythosMaster Feb 2020 #16

there is misogyny and fear of misogyny Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #18

That distinction is so on-point. If there were a way to pull apart x from fear of x MadLinguist Feb 2020 #32

Yes, fear of misogyny probably a big factor frazzled Feb 2020 #50

don't think we can blame Sanders for fear of misogyny... Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #64

She got swiftboated. Her presumed strength - I've got a plan for that - was turned into her weakness dalton99a Feb 2020 #22

I think you're correct Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #38

I suspect this is very true - although I do support her Backseat Driver Feb 2020 #70

Misogyny SDANation Feb 2020 #23

She's taking the fall for Sanders' Skidmore Feb 2020 #24

Don't write her off just yet. Lets see how she does on Tuesday. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #28

I can't understand why folks would pick Sanders over Warren...Warren who has accomplished UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #29

What I don't understand is the Bernie surge. I'm old and never heard of him until 2016 katmondoo Feb 2020 #52

Check this out... k2qb3 Feb 2020 #81

I can only say why I don't support her. She's not a lot different from Sanders, too many promises Hoyt Feb 2020 #33

She's a she, intelligent, 1000% anti-tRUMP, a true NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #34

She is a wonderful candidate.... FarPoint Feb 2020 #35

Personality. If she had Amy's personality she'd be running away with the nomination Buckeyeblue Feb 2020 #36

I like Liz's personality far more than Amy's, FWIW. JudyM Feb 2020 #75

All of these are personal preferences. Buckeyeblue Feb 2020 #86

1. She's not that likable Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #40

Not that likable! She's enormously likable. LisaM Feb 2020 #63

There was no bogus Native American thing. That"s RW spin. blm Feb 2020 #88

Because it's not about policies, it's about beating Trump. drray23 Feb 2020 #41

There IS no one tougher facing down power and corruption than Warren. blm Feb 2020 #89

Warren will destroy Trump MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #96

I don't think it's gender, but style. Basic LA Feb 2020 #43

She is the one our ruling class fears most becoming President. Tactical Peek Feb 2020 #47

damn straight...she willed the creation of the CFPB without Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #67

Exactly. She is the anticorruption candidate and the corrupt know it. blm Feb 2020 #91

The reason I have ranked Klobuchar above Warren is that unitedwethrive Feb 2020 #51

This is a candidate who stays on message MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #97

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #58

I've never liked her so may not be the best judge, but I think . . . Chemisse Feb 2020 #59

that was also a good estimate of the cost of Bernie's health plan Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #66

It hurt her because she was evasive about it, imo. n/t Chemisse Feb 2020 #68

but Bernie is also evasive about the costs of his plans Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #69

Good point. Their plans seem pretty similar. Chemisse Feb 2020 #92

The premise of the question was flawed MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #98

The media Faux pas Feb 2020 #65

She's very straightforward in telling folks how she will accomplish her policies andym Feb 2020 #71

So much sexism pattyloutwo Feb 2020 #72

When she talked about MFA and seemed to go back a little Polybius Feb 2020 #73

lol not on DU ! stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #77

Sincerity was part of it booley Feb 2020 #78

Corporations and Wall Street do not support her... pbmus Feb 2020 #83

So? booley Feb 2020 #84

That's about the size of it. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #85

Sounds like Sanders supporters exaggerated grievances. blm Feb 2020 #90

Many won't understand it when you say moving closer to Clinton hurt her kcr Feb 2020 #94

This is the most substantive response I've seen on this topic Renew Deal Feb 2020 #103

IMO, she was on the rise and had media coverage, until... mysteryowl Feb 2020 #82

Sexism, MFA plan rollout, Sanders BlueWI Feb 2020 #93

She was honest about how she would pay for her programs Recursion Feb 2020 #100

She was naive about Democratic voters cerebrate2006 Feb 2020 #102

She replies to every question with the same answer Raven123 Feb 2020 #104

When she talked about Medicare for all some outside groups duforsure Feb 2020 #106

AOC endorsed and campaigned for Sanders. Laelth Feb 2020 #107

She's being overpowered by the male candidates, I'm afraid. MineralMan Feb 2020 #109