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Jedi Guy

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57. I don't know that I'd go that far.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:58 PM
Feb 2020

The information is out there if one has the wherewithal to go looking. It's hardly as if US/world history, government, civics, etc. is classified info. Even if schools don't teach it (which they absolutely should), the Internet is pretty much the sum total of human knowledge, only a few clicks away.

Personally, I think it's simple apathy. When my old man taught history, his kids would say, "History is boring. What does it matter what a bunch of dead people did a hundred years ago?" Some people just aren't interested in it because they think it has no impact on their lives, and/or they don't prize knowledge for its own sake.

When I'm feeling more charitable, I think it may also be that people are so damn busy trying to eke out a living that they simply don't have time for anything that doesn't involve making money and putting food on the table. When you're dragging ass tired after your double shift, you're not interested in gaining knowledge. You just want to nuke your frozen dinner, shovel it into your face, and collapse into bed.

But the kind of people who actively scorn knowledge or have no time to seek it are the ones who put Trump in the Oval Office. Somehow or other, we have to figure out a way to break that cycle, or the know-nothings will keep voting for bigger know-nothings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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DU is significantly more progressive than the rest of the country, typically. bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #1
I would agree, in general. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #3
DU is not reflective of the population at large. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #2
At this very early stage of the primary process, every campaign has concerns. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #5
When I say "concerned".... Garrett78 Feb 2020 #20
I understood your reference. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #38
DU trends older and whiter than the population as a whole. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #4
And older voters tend to be regular voters. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #6
And despie the age of DUers, Sanders was way ahead of Clinton in polls here in 2016. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #28
Among other things... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #7
Great points. And I did recently edit to add that fact. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #9
Yes. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #13
That 43% is almost exactly the amount of undecided in NH! So DU is a reflection of NH voters? Baclava Feb 2020 #46
I find the statement DU is much more progressive than the public tiredtoo Feb 2020 #8
It is an opinion. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #10
We are keyed in voters. We can tell you what happened with BCCI and blm Feb 2020 #11
And we might even be able to identify the 3 co-equal branches of government. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #12
✔️ blm Feb 2020 #14
If a day ever comes where you're happy and don't want to be... Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #22
plus a billion Celerity Feb 2020 #33
I was 16 when my family moved here from Canada. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #40
I don't know that I'd go that far. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #57
Excellent points. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #58
Yeah, it blows my mind when people tell me they don't follow politics, or worse, don't vote. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #60
Again excellent points. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #61
The average US household has $38,000 in debt, excluding mortgages. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #62
I've wondered about this. democrank Feb 2020 #15
Struggling America blm Feb 2020 #27
You touch on another topic I love to raise. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #36
It shows DU not indicative of the voters actually casting votes. AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #16
kinda but tiredtoo Feb 2020 #18
Kinda.... but not....per 538..I don't see a big undecided AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #21
Just what i have been hearing on the tv machine. eom tiredtoo Feb 2020 #23
Stop watching it....I watch the polling....I don't see..can't find the big undecided...can you? AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #25
Poll: Sanders leads in New Hampshire, but half of voters remain uncommitted TwilightZone Feb 2020 #31
30% undecided.....that's your go to... AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #39
NH Poll: 30% undecided, with about half not firmly committed TwilightZone Feb 2020 #32
To a degree, that is true. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #37
Before the Purge, DU was overwhelmingly Progressive and supportive of Sanders. Bonobo Feb 2020 #17
two questions tiredtoo Feb 2020 #19
JPR..Jack Pine Radicals....it's a blast to peruse... AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #24
After Clinton won the nomination Hav Feb 2020 #26
I guess that's why almost all the DUers who supported Bernie in the 2016 election democrattotheend Feb 2020 #51
There was no purge. The more conspiracy minded Sanders supporters refused to sign emulatorloo Feb 2020 #30
ok i was a sanders supporter but must have passed the test tiredtoo Feb 2020 #34
I was as well. emulatorloo Feb 2020 #35
Me too democrattotheend Feb 2020 #54
Exactly. I recall many Hillary supporters being booted in 2008 for the same reason democrattotheend Feb 2020 #52
It struck me as diverse before. David__77 Feb 2020 #29
+1 JudyM Feb 2020 #41
There was no purge. Codeine Feb 2020 #44
tons of people were kicked out last time round well before the convention questionseverything Feb 2020 #47
Many people were kicked out in 2008 too democrattotheend Feb 2020 #55
i wasnt here in 2008 questionseverything Feb 2020 #56
I've been here since 2003 democrattotheend Feb 2020 #63
in addition to my previous comments tiredtoo Feb 2020 #42
I would not argue that point. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #43
I would estimate more than half. Codeine Feb 2020 #45
Back in the day, Dennis Kucinich would dominate DU polls. tritsofme Feb 2020 #48
Here's my anecdotal two cents: Mersky Feb 2020 #49
This shows that DU has no relationship to politics in the real world. brooklynite Feb 2020 #50
Neither Iowa nor DU represents Democrats nationally. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #53
Dennis Kucinich was the darling of DU back in the 2008 primary. At least early on. Kaleva Feb 2020 #59
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