Democratic Primaries

handmade34

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66. think on this...

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:48 PM

Feb 2020

Bernie is my Senator... most of Vermont likes him

Vermont is kind of a world of its own

as liberal as some of us are and as much as we keep electing Bernie... the people of Vermont still can't implement the policies Bernie is proposing... what does that say about Alabama or Florida or what have you state...

Bernie can win in the Northeast maybe and maybe other states but we will lose the electoral college and that is the only thing we need to be concerned about right now...

the Republicans will be vicious... they will dig up stuff, they will lie, they will feed on people's fears... they will do that no matter who the nominee is but with Bernie, it goes to a whole other level

a Bernie nominee is dangerous and wrong at this time... I know it in my bones and my bones do not lie

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If Bernie Sanders is the nominee Trump will get a 2nd term (and America will be over). [View all] Botany Feb 2020 OP

Exactly. K and R. Squinch Feb 2020 #1

And I have no doubt that both Russia and the Trump campaign are working 24/7 to make ... Botany Feb 2020 #2

They tried last time, and even though he wasn't the candidate, Squinch Feb 2020 #8

They already said they are. I live in the D.C. area, and the Republicans are planning an She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #38

That's why open primaries are idiotic. C Moon Feb 2020 #49

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #68

Agreed. Here in Maryland, our primary is closed. As it should be. She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #113

You can LArider Feb 2020 #235

Did it ever occur to you that bannon and the boys are using reverse psychology? brutus smith Feb 2020 #50

Nope! They do everything they say they're going to do, have they not? Sure. She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #53

Right. All that money they paid in 16 to Cambridge Analytica Squinch Feb 2020 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #59

He isn't going to be the nominee...I think Biden or Bloomberg will beat him ...seriously lame Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #87

Ironic response from a Biden supporter... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #143

Did you think there was only one caucus and one primary? Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #170

I did nothing of the sort. Perhaps you might re-read my response. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #177

DU members may very well vote for him hangaleft Feb 2020 #206

And Sanders knows it too. apcalc Feb 2020 #127

How can we DownriverDem Feb 2020 #149

He two points from beating trump in Texas jimfields33 Feb 2020 #226

You can't. Laelth Feb 2020 #237

Yep wisteria Feb 2020 #182

+1 pandr32 Feb 2020 #3

I think your right. Bernie now is the wrong time. I am sorry Bernie but it is the truth. katmondoo Feb 2020 #4

I agree with you. The Florida primary is a closed one on 17 March irisblue Feb 2020 #147

You're not wrong. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #5

I respectfully disagree. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #6

KSNY KSNY Feb 2020 #28

Difference is: I have every confidence that Warren supporters will oblige in good faith. She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #43

Let us prove you wrong. ramen Feb 2020 #166

I support both Sanders and Warren. KSNY Feb 2020 #198

Warren won't do that...and the maybe the Twitter folks should not have been so vile if they Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #91

For me. No. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #199

Nah, the repugs have so much devastating oppo on him it's scary. brush Feb 2020 #44

I fear that like in the NH primary where you could change your party affiliation at the polls, Fla Dem Feb 2020 #67

Wondering SilasSouleII Feb 2020 #132

Wih all due respect calguy Feb 2020 #75

"Here's the deal" as Joe is so fond of saying... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #146

It's going to be tough but Bernie can do it! treefarmers Feb 2020 #137

After the debate last night I am switching my vote to Warren treefarmers Feb 2020 #241

Trump's sure fire way to a second term Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #7

Agreed n/t MANative Feb 2020 #9

Couldn't disagree more... zentrum Feb 2020 #10

Nope. Black voters are NOT voting for Bernie Sanders. Some will. Most of us will not. She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #47

Agreed. Black voters want to defeat Trump SilasSouleII Feb 2020 #134

Trust me, most black voters won't switch to Sanders. Bloomberg most likely. brush Feb 2020 #227

I believe so too. There's too much stuff on Bernie. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #11

But not too much stuff on Trump? Seriously? All things weighed? ancianita Feb 2020 #31

Everyone knows how bad Trump is but republicans don't care. Democrats have a little more integrity. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #157

Point is, Bernie can sell how he'll undo IF45's damage, how he & a senate democratic majority will ancianita Feb 2020 #172

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary. Trump will scream socialism and scare people shitless. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #190

True or not, think about how insane that statement sounds: C Moon Feb 2020 #54

Agreed but this concerns voters some democrats may not vote for Bernie if they hear enough garbage. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #156

I don't see a path cilla4progress Feb 2020 #12

The only way that I might vote for Bernie Sanders if he is the nominee is it he puts She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #52

Thank you for your input... cilla4progress Feb 2020 #63

Nina Turner is great! NY06DemSoc Feb 2020 #126

Nina does nothing to persuade people to support Sanders amuse bouche Feb 2020 #135

While we're putting together a dream team... NY06DemSoc Feb 2020 #138

I shudder at the possibility of her as press secretary Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #154

Are you saying you won't vote for him if he's the nominee Squinch Feb 2020 #83

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #102

Then it will be a vote for trump. Squinch Feb 2020 #104

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #111

Then you will be helping trump. And this isn't playing. Squinch Feb 2020 #122

We need everyone to vote for our nominee, regardless of who it is. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #116

So you'd rather have another Trump presidency than support the Democratic nominee for president shawn703 Feb 2020 #117

Killer Mike went a long way to convincing them otherwise in 2016. He's out on tour ancianita Feb 2020 #167

Yup.. Callado119 Feb 2020 #13

Ten years ago I was in love with Bernie, but today we are in danger oasis Feb 2020 #14

I liked him too , when he would speak occasionally from the Senate. apcalc Feb 2020 #130

I can imagine how it will be defending Sanders policies to skeptical voters if he is our nominee. honest.abe Feb 2020 #15

America's been over for a while HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #16

Do you have any documentation for this idea? Bayard Feb 2020 #26

Nah, just an opinion. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #51

That was a reasonable reply to a request for any kind of support for your statement. Squinch Feb 2020 #89

Like I care. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #98

Aren't you sweet. Squinch Feb 2020 #101

Bush vs. Gore and the Florida non-recount is pretty good documentation of our country's change. StevieM Feb 2020 #153

Hmmmm... ZenDem Feb 2020 #58

Mainly an economic argument and the relative strength of our position in the world at that time. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #65

That's valid. ZenDem Feb 2020 #86

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary Martin Eden Feb 2020 #17

are you me? renate Feb 2020 #92

Add me to this group. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2020 #188

Yup, me too. MH1 Feb 2020 #196

I am he as you are he as you are me Martin Eden Feb 2020 #194

Sanders would turn 80 in his first nine months. (We have the same B-day, but not year.) deurbano Feb 2020 #155

I like Warren too, and she's not too old Martin Eden Feb 2020 #225

My story, too. Still haven't made up my mind. marble falls Feb 2020 #224

I agree...Warren is my second choice...but if she and Biden fail...then I will support Bloomberg as Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #18

I will have to say Bloomberg yuiyoshida Feb 2020 #80

I love Star wars! Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #95

Warren was my first. But I think she may be done. Squinch Feb 2020 #94

That makes me sad...Warren is a good person...and did not deserve the treatment she received. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #107

No. She would have been great. But I'm hoping she'll end up in a really Squinch Feb 2020 #121

And...we need a strong Senate. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #163

There is a GOP Senator in Mass...she is great in the Senate. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #207

Yep. -nt Amimnoch Feb 2020 #19

2nd Cha Feb 2020 #204

The candidate that can win will have the support of black women. onecaliberal Feb 2020 #20

I think this is true. But I also think the black female vote tends to be very pragmatic. Squinch Feb 2020 #97

I agree Green Line Feb 2020 #21

SAME HERE Desert grandma Feb 2020 #90

Yeah.. Cha Feb 2020 #221

K&R musette_sf Feb 2020 #22

Exactly wrong. "BE AFRAID!!!!! BE AFRAID!!!! BE AFRAID!!!" That crap won't fly. Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #23

Yes, Sanders Can Win McKim Feb 2020 #33

Yes, he's VERY good at that. Don't think the young won't be all over the elders' fear of socialism! ancianita Feb 2020 #39

The weird thing is, Bernie is actually just pushing more of what FDR started. Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #46

Then HE and YOUTH supporters will say THAT! He's not in any way afraid to call on the ancestors for ancianita Feb 2020 #48

The youth vote didnt show up in NH. Squinch Feb 2020 #100

There is structural for that, from what I've read. Every state has different laws about college ancianita Feb 2020 #168

There's always "a structural," though. Squinch Feb 2020 #169

Doesn't have to be, though. ancianita Feb 2020 #173

But there always is. Squinch Feb 2020 #174

Less and less, though. ancianita Feb 2020 #176

You're seeing a surge in the youth vote? Squinch Feb 2020 #178

Not yet. Doesn't mean it can't happen just because it hasn't happened yet. ancianita Feb 2020 #187

Right. Except it never does. We've all been hoping since McGovern that it would. But it doesn't. Squinch Feb 2020 #189

No Bernie will lose and then we are truly screwed...sure he has my vote but Trump will win. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #109

FUD azureblue Feb 2020 #141

We Want TO BEAT trump Cha Feb 2020 #232

a repeat of McGovern in 1972 question everything Feb 2020 #24

Yep! Dave in VA Feb 2020 #73

I agree with you completely Zolorp Feb 2020 #25

Not only that awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #27

No matter who our nominee is we all have to work really hard to get trump out! mysteryowl Feb 2020 #29

This. We have a monumental task before us, regardless which candidate is the tip of the spear. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #37

Especially! with all the voter supression the GOP does. mysteryowl Feb 2020 #57

It all comes down to 20% Piratedog Feb 2020 #30

Only a moderate will best Trump Piratedog Feb 2020 #40

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #112

I'm no BOT. Your head may be in sand Piratedog Feb 2020 #171

McGovern. Mondale. Dukakis. Gore. Kerry. Clinton. progressoid Feb 2020 #193

The voters who voted for Obama in '08 & '12 and then voted for Trump is not what flipped .... Botany Feb 2020 #42

100 Percent Correct. You couldn't be more right. However, I don't think that's going to happen. She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #32

How about we let the process play out .... jb5150 Feb 2020 #34

Why don't you understand that he's a DEMOCRATIC Socialist???!!! brooklynite Feb 2020 #35

Why don't you understand that FDR was too? Woodycall Feb 2020 #70

Point to his acceptance of that title? brooklynite Feb 2020 #82

FDR was a devout capitalist, which he made clear repeatedly. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #110

This is a very real risk with all of our candidates at the moment. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #36

I agree. I just blocked about 30 of his supporters on twitter amuse bouche Feb 2020 #41

And I respectfully disagree Calculating Feb 2020 #45

'They'll stay home" or "vote trump for the memes" awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #62

Bunch of potential skeletons? MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #210

Trump conspiracies? Calculating Feb 2020 #215

They got more on Jane Sanders than they do Hunter Biden. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #216

And yet, Wednesday, February 12, there's this... Woodycall Feb 2020 #55

National polls do not matter Piratedog Feb 2020 #74

Are there head to head polls Bernie Vs DJT in all states? mwooldri Feb 2020 #56

Duly Noted mikeysnot Feb 2020 #60

I totally disagree. James48 Feb 2020 #61

Um, yes, you're wrong. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #64

think on this... handmade34 Feb 2020 #66

I do not see him winning my swing state of PA. apcalc Feb 2020 #185

saying "I'm not trump" won't win. we need a positive message jg10003 Feb 2020 #69

His message has been that the Democratic Party is a failure. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #212

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #71

I think Bernie can win. Am I completely confident, no. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #72

Lets all wring our hands together. If (insert candidate name) wins we johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #76

Agree... berksdem Feb 2020 #78

And you can see into the future because of what? rwsanders Feb 2020 #79

I'm voting for the democratic nominee.. don't care who it is. the_sly_pig Feb 2020 #81

Imho ... Alsteen Feb 2020 #84

Bill Clinton didn't win any of the February contests More_Cowbell Feb 2020 #85

K&R BlueJac Feb 2020 #88

I don't think we can take that chance and nominate Bernie. Just an opinion. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #93

I agree. Bernie can't win extvbroadcaster Feb 2020 #96

I agree... Mazeltov Cocktail Feb 2020 #99

We were certain Trump couldn't win. Predictions are error prone. Cicada Feb 2020 #103

He didn't fucking win. He and the GOP committed high crimes and treason. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #213

If a potted plant is the Democratic nominee then I vote potted plant. Pepsidog Feb 2020 #105

Agreed. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2020 #106

It would be a repeat of Andrew Gillum in Florida Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #108

There is no "might" about it. You are wrong. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #114

I agree. Electability over ideology. lucca18 Feb 2020 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author usaf-vet Feb 2020 #118

I think you are correct. bitterross Feb 2020 #119

I can't understand anyone who thinks otherwise. PURE INSANITY. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #120

Agree 100% lillypaddle Feb 2020 #123

Forget the centrist Dems like Biden, like Klobuchar, like Buttigieg Dr Rise Feb 2020 #124

They would call Ronald Reagan a socialist if he rose from the dead and ran as a Democrat.! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #161

You're right but that don't mean they'll vote for one Piratedog Feb 2020 #175

That's OK with me. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #183

Self described Cha Feb 2020 #239

The R's have tons of oppo research on him. apcalc Feb 2020 #186

How Trump would destroy Bernie Sanders mchill Feb 2020 #228

Oh for fucks sake he does not walk on water. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #214

So, tell us, why do you think the GOP is promoting Bernie? ehrnst Mar 2020 #242

oh boy Kurt V. Feb 2020 #125

I agree with you. nancy1942 Feb 2020 #128

I disagree krny9 Feb 2020 #129

I strongly agree with the OP and I am very worried about sanders killing down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #131

I agree with you, Bot!! Alliepoo Feb 2020 #133

Well, I think you might be wrong. notinkansas Feb 2020 #136

I agree, Bernie would mean electoral suicide. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #139

I have enough stress in my life at this time. tiredtoo Feb 2020 #140

yeah, right, sure - Change the attacks from Biden azureblue Feb 2020 #142

I hate these posts. Chicago1980 Feb 2020 #144

LOL. And if we nominate a Centrist and that Centrist loses to Trump jalan48 Feb 2020 #145

Bernie don't give a f**k Dream Girl Feb 2020 #148

So much for "I'll vote for our nominee, who ever that is." ihaveaquestion Feb 2020 #150

Sadly, I also don't think Sanders can beat Trump. Why? ... CaptainTruth Feb 2020 #151

Disagree. maryallen Feb 2020 #152

Is Botany actually Nostradamus? Indepatriot Feb 2020 #158

If Trump wins ouija Feb 2020 #160

It could also be the end of the Democratic party. LisaM Feb 2020 #159

Yes, Sanders and his supporters are going to push out the leadership and Moderates from the party wisteria Feb 2020 #181

Bullshit Galraedia Feb 2020 #162

Is that what happened in 2016? IronLionZion Feb 2020 #164

Absolutely disagree and shame on you! MyMission Feb 2020 #165

I agree Trump will be reelected wisteria Feb 2020 #179

I think your Right njhoneybadger Feb 2020 #180

At this point the only thing necessary to save America is for EVERYONE Runningdawg Feb 2020 #184

I don't think you're wrong. Progressive dog Feb 2020 #191

KR! Cha Feb 2020 #192

K&R highplainsdem Feb 2020 #195

I think you're right DesertRat Feb 2020 #197

Oh bullpucky! jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #200

Truth, and right to the point. JudyM Feb 2020 #205

What? By telling them that it's not their fault they are racists? Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #209

I expected a longer dissertation... dchill Feb 2020 #201

I don't think we have to worry about it. cwydro Feb 2020 #202

Nah pattyloutwo Feb 2020 #203

I don't like to be quite so dogmatic. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #208

this is a change election ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #211

Yeah, just like he ushered in the '18 Blue Wave. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #217

I prefer Warren, but think Bernie might do better against Trump than Warren would. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #218

Look if Bernie is the nominee I will vote for and support him but he will get hammered by Trump ... Botany Feb 2020 #219

A Sanders candidacy simply guarantees a Trump second term Gothmog Feb 2020 #220

welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2020 #222

You would be wrong lees1975 Feb 2020 #223

How could you support Warren and not like Bernie? Polybius Feb 2020 #229

" our backup choice" Botany Feb 2020 #231

150 million Americans have health insurance they like mchill Feb 2020 #230

This stunt will piss off a ton of voters Gothmog Feb 2020 #233

Bernie Sanders is on the record of wanting to stop fracking Botany Feb 2020 #234

Has sanders condemned this stunt yet? Gothmog Feb 2020 #236

Kick dalton99a Feb 2020 #238

And sanders would kill down ballot candidate and we will have Speaker Kevin McCarthy Gothmog Feb 2020 #240