Democratic Primaries

lastlib

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22. ALL the marbles!!

Reply to Comatose Sphagetti (Original post)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:43 PM

Feb 2020

Don't get me wrong--I LOVE all of the Dem candidates (EXCEPT Gabbard!)!! I WILL vote for the Dem. candidate, even if it's an old rusty Dodge hubcap (and I LOATHE Dodges!) But we have to offer up the candidate who can bring the biggest chunk of the electorate to the table in even the red-leaning states. My humble opinion is that, of the remaining active candidates, only Biden and Klobuchar can do that. I would like to be wrong on this, believe me, but I just don't see it any other way. I, like so many Dems, like the ideas that Bernie and Elizabeth and others bring up, but I have a fear that they would scare away a good many voters back to Shitgibbon. In my gut, I don't want to risk that--I just don't think we have a margin of safety to play with. Feel free to persuade me otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Are you fucking kidding me!!!??? Rant on: [View all] Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2020 OP

I've already seen several Pete signs here in the Midwest. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1

I'm in Maplewood/White Bear Lake area IVoteDFL Feb 2020 #39

I live in a red rural area, god and guns. Bernie's got support here. From some of the most Autumn Feb 2020 #2

Yup, I live in the most beautiful place in America but surrounded by some of the ugliest Americans Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #106

Out here in rural Kentucky, a Sanders nomination destroys any possibility of defeating McConnell Zolorp Feb 2020 #3

No matter who the Democratic nominee is, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #4

Most of it's tenets were crafted by right-wing think tanks as a market-based solution (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #8

And that did not stop the GOP from lying. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #17

No argument my friend mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #27

Exactly. And folks here call that moderate these days. "Are you fucking kidding me?" KPN Feb 2020 #69

When Medicare was being established wnylib Feb 2020 #111

Well argued. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #117

Yes, it would expand faster then. wnylib Feb 2020 #118

You can play safe all you want. William769 Feb 2020 #5

+1 lunasun Feb 2020 #31

+2! KPN Feb 2020 #70

+3 The Mouth Feb 2020 #86

I had a young man knock last night supporting Bernie and had a Pete supporter a few days earlier. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #7

I think Pete could be VP on a winning ticket fwiw (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #12

I suggest that whoever is the VP nomination, it can't be a Senator. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #126

Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #33

But Obama was clearly black. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #38

I heard that too, the OMG, are you kidding me, a black man winning Beringia Feb 2020 #50

The GOP, being the official Party of racists, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #52

I even lost a treasured MySpace friend Beringia Feb 2020 #57

Sorry to hear that, but at least you learned an important fact about that person. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #59

Obama's middle name wasn't an asset either. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #91

I recall hearing that a lot Bettie Feb 2020 #36

Well, ChiTownDenny Feb 2020 #114

Indeed Kerrycrat Feb 2020 #128

Some common sense at last calguy Feb 2020 #9

This. nt Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2020 #14

Hardly, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #34

Well, the pro-Bloomberg Bettie Feb 2020 #37

Only because Bloomberg's minions, paid for by the way, are out there trying to get noticed. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #49

" Bloomberg's the one out there telling people he's the only one who can beat Trump." tiredtoo Feb 2020 #97

Already trying to drown me out calguy Feb 2020 #45

No, it is anti-Bernie 24/7 Beringia Feb 2020 #53

Really? Tweedy Feb 2020 #92

Barack Hussein Obama? KayF Feb 2020 #10

Do you think he'd have won if the economy didn't crap out? mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #24

THIS is why Obama won... handmade34 Feb 2020 #65

While of course I LOVE that ... I don't know that he wins without THAT ... AND the economy tanking mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #105

I know it's unscientific, but Obama had a hell of an IT factor. He's dripping with IT. None of Squinch Feb 2020 #32

Some of those red states aren't as red as you make think. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #51

This time is different. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #11

Those words have been spoken by every authoritarian in history. Red Oak Feb 2020 #40

Bernie can win, I think. Bernie's got force of personality. Pete is like a carefully-crafted pie BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #13

Pete would be a GREAT Senator, IMHO! lastlib Feb 2020 #26

He would be. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #28

I'm not that confident that Bernie can win PatSeg Feb 2020 #35

Yeah, once Obama was elected Senator of Illinois, he was able to stand BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #42

Yes PatSeg Feb 2020 #55

Biden and Bloomberg is not a playing it safe option, it's the smart option. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #15

Who is your choice and how are they any more likely to win either the primary or the general ? CentralMass Feb 2020 #16

I agree 100%. You won't see very many in doc03 Feb 2020 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #20

Sadly too many blue-wave Feb 2020 #21

We live in very strange times PatSeg Feb 2020 #41

ALL the marbles!! lastlib Feb 2020 #22

Will a socialist win over Trump voters? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #23

I don't think anyone wins over Trump voters. You have to get others out to vote. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #25

The question is- will a socialist win over moderates?? apcalc Feb 2020 #30

If they are STILL supporting Agent Orange Bettie Feb 2020 #43

I think more people in middle America support Bernie than you think. Look at Iowa! Love-All Feb 2020 #29

+++ exactly and look who he was up there with in numbers ..Pete . Seems Sanders and Pete were lunasun Feb 2020 #44

Iowa was a Democratic Primary handmade34 Feb 2020 #58

Neither Iowa nor New Hampshire are representative of America Desert grandma Feb 2020 #88

Nope. Not kidding you. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #46

I live in a city, but travel rural MO, KS & OK a lot FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #47

Interesting - what do you think about Amy and Liz? ANY chance for them in your 'Murica? jmg257 Feb 2020 #48

Let's work out a deal to run Mitt Romeny, then. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #54

. Iggo Feb 2020 #125

Are you kidding me? LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #56

completely agree RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #62

Could we please stop this Henny-Pennying? RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #60

.... handmade34 Feb 2020 #67

two words: Electoral College handmade34 Feb 2020 #61

This. nt Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2020 #64

Biden or Bloomberg are both great choices, not just safe pandr32 Feb 2020 #63

Are you fucking kidding us?!?! Jirel Feb 2020 #66

Warren's not an unsafe candidate. And she'd be much better than Bernie or Pete. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #71

You're not wrong....playing it safe with charisma and charm works though! Baclava Feb 2020 #73

The first two I agree with... robbob Feb 2020 #83

+1 ChiTownDenny Feb 2020 #115

Aside from being female, she was as "safe" as the other two. Jirel Feb 2020 #133

As much as I would like to see a more progressive Democratic candidate and platform, Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #68

Actually Bernie did just fine in the last red state primaries which ending not voting for the yaesu Feb 2020 #72

Exactly. KPN Feb 2020 #79

Exactly Exactly! Love-All Feb 2020 #120

Play it safe and young people stay home. rainin Feb 2020 #74

That is the hard truth. JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #75

Couldn't agree with you more CS DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #76

but Bernie is so loved by the Red states. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #77

I feel the exact same way. WAKE the *** UP, people! slumcamper Feb 2020 #78

Yep. Indeed, indeed, indeed! calimary Feb 2020 #80

Yeah - Go Tulsi!!! jmg257 Feb 2020 #81

She still running? Iggo Feb 2020 #124

So I hear - she did have a town hall in Maine the other day. jmg257 Feb 2020 #132

This whole thing of winning over Trump voters is stupid Curtis Feb 2020 #82

A ton of people said that America would never elect a Black President. Mc Mike Feb 2020 #84

Actually, Berniei is the most electable of them all. ananda Feb 2020 #85

I know. Lets find a candidate who is a racist, corrupt, lazy, dumb nazi. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #87

+1000 aeromanKC Feb 2020 #89

Warren is the strongest. We need to all get behind Warren. If not Warren, klobuchar. krissey Feb 2020 #90

Electability of Buttigieg JGug1 Feb 2020 #93

No. James48 Feb 2020 #94

You tell me- James48 Feb 2020 #100

op is totally faulty logic Locrian Feb 2020 #130

We may out number them, but they VOTE at a much greater % as their churches demand. Runningdawg Feb 2020 #95

Trump was unelectable Cartoonist Feb 2020 #96

Damn, VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO! tiredtoo Feb 2020 #98

Need To Add Joe To That List DallasNE Feb 2020 #99

I see you are undecided, who do you have in mind as safest? ramen Feb 2020 #101

You think we can convince Trumpers to vote for a Democrat?? Martin Eden Feb 2020 #102

Exactly. n/t DallasNE Feb 2020 #103

I think that a Sanders nomination will avebury Feb 2020 #104

This seems SO obvious. If people haven't figured it Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #107

I am not a political strategist, but this is what I told my friend. . . Collimator Feb 2020 #108

I am starting to lose sleep pistdem Feb 2020 #109

Why lose sleep? DaDeacon Feb 2020 #113

I think you are right. Neither Can Win. bitterross Feb 2020 #110

this post is wrong headed. DaDeacon Feb 2020 #112

But who is that? jimlup Feb 2020 #116

Every Democratic Nominee is electable. This year it's the Democratic Nominee's election rockfordfile Feb 2020 #119

Damn, you've read my mind. Duppers Feb 2020 #121

All that red in the middle lees1975 Feb 2020 #122

How did we ever elect a black man? Iggo Feb 2020 #123

THANK YOU! macwriter Feb 2020 #127

bernie is getting hispanics + has killer mike. plus he is great on messaging w/ blue collar. + he pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #129

I fear the number of Democrats that don't understand the truth of what you're saying. Squinch Feb 2020 #131