Democratic Primaries

Locrian

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130. op is totally faulty logic

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:11 AM

Feb 2020

>>The rise of Bernie in the primaries indicates to me that too many believe this to be a normal election. It is not.
>>So I'm gonna say it; WE HAVE TO PLAY IT SAFE!

So its NOT a normal election, but we're supposed to pick a "safe bet"?! SMDH.

You are right though it's not a "normal election". It's people FED UP with the status quo. Didn't we **just** see that with HRC in 2016? It's climate change, planet on fire, rise of authoritarianism, huge inequality, people dying for lack of healthcare. And so now we have to play it safe? Play it safe are you freaking serous? Playing it safe is addressing any of those concerns?

Bernie is the only candidate that is actually generating excitement and passion from a broad spectrum, and has the history of being on the side of the people Most of the rest are establishment candidates, or in Bloomberg's case outright republicans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Are you fucking kidding me!!!??? Rant on: [View all] Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2020 OP

I've already seen several Pete signs here in the Midwest. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1

I'm in Maplewood/White Bear Lake area IVoteDFL Feb 2020 #39

I live in a red rural area, god and guns. Bernie's got support here. From some of the most Autumn Feb 2020 #2

Yup, I live in the most beautiful place in America but surrounded by some of the ugliest Americans Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #106

Out here in rural Kentucky, a Sanders nomination destroys any possibility of defeating McConnell Zolorp Feb 2020 #3

No matter who the Democratic nominee is, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #4

Most of it's tenets were crafted by right-wing think tanks as a market-based solution (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #8

And that did not stop the GOP from lying. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #17

No argument my friend mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #27

Exactly. And folks here call that moderate these days. "Are you fucking kidding me?" KPN Feb 2020 #69

When Medicare was being established wnylib Feb 2020 #111

Well argued. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #117

Yes, it would expand faster then. wnylib Feb 2020 #118

You can play safe all you want. William769 Feb 2020 #5

+1 lunasun Feb 2020 #31

+2! KPN Feb 2020 #70

+3 The Mouth Feb 2020 #86

I had a young man knock last night supporting Bernie and had a Pete supporter a few days earlier. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #7

I think Pete could be VP on a winning ticket fwiw (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #12

I suggest that whoever is the VP nomination, it can't be a Senator. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #126

Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #33

But Obama was clearly black. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #38

I heard that too, the OMG, are you kidding me, a black man winning Beringia Feb 2020 #50

The GOP, being the official Party of racists, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #52

I even lost a treasured MySpace friend Beringia Feb 2020 #57

Sorry to hear that, but at least you learned an important fact about that person. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #59

Obama's middle name wasn't an asset either. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #91

I recall hearing that a lot Bettie Feb 2020 #36

Well, ChiTownDenny Feb 2020 #114

Indeed Kerrycrat Feb 2020 #128

Some common sense at last calguy Feb 2020 #9

This. nt Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2020 #14

Hardly, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #34

Well, the pro-Bloomberg Bettie Feb 2020 #37

Only because Bloomberg's minions, paid for by the way, are out there trying to get noticed. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #49

" Bloomberg's the one out there telling people he's the only one who can beat Trump." tiredtoo Feb 2020 #97

Already trying to drown me out calguy Feb 2020 #45

No, it is anti-Bernie 24/7 Beringia Feb 2020 #53

Really? Tweedy Feb 2020 #92

Barack Hussein Obama? KayF Feb 2020 #10

Do you think he'd have won if the economy didn't crap out? mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #24

THIS is why Obama won... handmade34 Feb 2020 #65

While of course I LOVE that ... I don't know that he wins without THAT ... AND the economy tanking mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #105

I know it's unscientific, but Obama had a hell of an IT factor. He's dripping with IT. None of Squinch Feb 2020 #32

Some of those red states aren't as red as you make think. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #51

This time is different. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #11

Those words have been spoken by every authoritarian in history. Red Oak Feb 2020 #40

Bernie can win, I think. Bernie's got force of personality. Pete is like a carefully-crafted pie BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #13

Pete would be a GREAT Senator, IMHO! lastlib Feb 2020 #26

He would be. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #28

I'm not that confident that Bernie can win PatSeg Feb 2020 #35

Yeah, once Obama was elected Senator of Illinois, he was able to stand BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #42

Yes PatSeg Feb 2020 #55

Biden and Bloomberg is not a playing it safe option, it's the smart option. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #15

Who is your choice and how are they any more likely to win either the primary or the general ? CentralMass Feb 2020 #16

I agree 100%. You won't see very many in doc03 Feb 2020 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #20

Sadly too many blue-wave Feb 2020 #21

We live in very strange times PatSeg Feb 2020 #41

ALL the marbles!! lastlib Feb 2020 #22

Will a socialist win over Trump voters? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #23

I don't think anyone wins over Trump voters. You have to get others out to vote. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #25

The question is- will a socialist win over moderates?? apcalc Feb 2020 #30

If they are STILL supporting Agent Orange Bettie Feb 2020 #43

I think more people in middle America support Bernie than you think. Look at Iowa! Love-All Feb 2020 #29

+++ exactly and look who he was up there with in numbers ..Pete . Seems Sanders and Pete were lunasun Feb 2020 #44

Iowa was a Democratic Primary handmade34 Feb 2020 #58

Neither Iowa nor New Hampshire are representative of America Desert grandma Feb 2020 #88

Nope. Not kidding you. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #46

I live in a city, but travel rural MO, KS & OK a lot FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #47

Interesting - what do you think about Amy and Liz? ANY chance for them in your 'Murica? jmg257 Feb 2020 #48

Let's work out a deal to run Mitt Romeny, then. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #54

. Iggo Feb 2020 #125

Are you kidding me? LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #56

completely agree RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #62

Could we please stop this Henny-Pennying? RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #60

.... handmade34 Feb 2020 #67

two words: Electoral College handmade34 Feb 2020 #61

This. nt Comatose Sphagetti Feb 2020 #64

Biden or Bloomberg are both great choices, not just safe pandr32 Feb 2020 #63

Are you fucking kidding us?!?! Jirel Feb 2020 #66

Warren's not an unsafe candidate. And she'd be much better than Bernie or Pete. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #71

You're not wrong....playing it safe with charisma and charm works though! Baclava Feb 2020 #73

The first two I agree with... robbob Feb 2020 #83

+1 ChiTownDenny Feb 2020 #115

Aside from being female, she was as "safe" as the other two. Jirel Feb 2020 #133

As much as I would like to see a more progressive Democratic candidate and platform, Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #68

Actually Bernie did just fine in the last red state primaries which ending not voting for the yaesu Feb 2020 #72

Exactly. KPN Feb 2020 #79

Exactly Exactly! Love-All Feb 2020 #120

Play it safe and young people stay home. rainin Feb 2020 #74

That is the hard truth. JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #75

Couldn't agree with you more CS DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #76

but Bernie is so loved by the Red states. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #77

I feel the exact same way. WAKE the *** UP, people! slumcamper Feb 2020 #78

Yep. Indeed, indeed, indeed! calimary Feb 2020 #80

Yeah - Go Tulsi!!! jmg257 Feb 2020 #81

She still running? Iggo Feb 2020 #124

So I hear - she did have a town hall in Maine the other day. jmg257 Feb 2020 #132

This whole thing of winning over Trump voters is stupid Curtis Feb 2020 #82

A ton of people said that America would never elect a Black President. Mc Mike Feb 2020 #84

Actually, Berniei is the most electable of them all. ananda Feb 2020 #85

I know. Lets find a candidate who is a racist, corrupt, lazy, dumb nazi. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #87

+1000 aeromanKC Feb 2020 #89

Warren is the strongest. We need to all get behind Warren. If not Warren, klobuchar. krissey Feb 2020 #90

Electability of Buttigieg JGug1 Feb 2020 #93

No. James48 Feb 2020 #94

You tell me- James48 Feb 2020 #100

op is totally faulty logic Locrian Feb 2020 #130

We may out number them, but they VOTE at a much greater % as their churches demand. Runningdawg Feb 2020 #95

Trump was unelectable Cartoonist Feb 2020 #96

Damn, VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO! tiredtoo Feb 2020 #98

Need To Add Joe To That List DallasNE Feb 2020 #99

I see you are undecided, who do you have in mind as safest? ramen Feb 2020 #101

You think we can convince Trumpers to vote for a Democrat?? Martin Eden Feb 2020 #102

Exactly. n/t DallasNE Feb 2020 #103

I think that a Sanders nomination will avebury Feb 2020 #104

This seems SO obvious. If people haven't figured it Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #107

I am not a political strategist, but this is what I told my friend. . . Collimator Feb 2020 #108

I am starting to lose sleep pistdem Feb 2020 #109

Why lose sleep? DaDeacon Feb 2020 #113

I think you are right. Neither Can Win. bitterross Feb 2020 #110

this post is wrong headed. DaDeacon Feb 2020 #112

But who is that? jimlup Feb 2020 #116

Every Democratic Nominee is electable. This year it's the Democratic Nominee's election rockfordfile Feb 2020 #119

Damn, you've read my mind. Duppers Feb 2020 #121

All that red in the middle lees1975 Feb 2020 #122

How did we ever elect a black man? Iggo Feb 2020 #123

THANK YOU! macwriter Feb 2020 #127

bernie is getting hispanics + has killer mike. plus he is great on messaging w/ blue collar. + he pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #129

I fear the number of Democrats that don't understand the truth of what you're saying. Squinch Feb 2020 #131