Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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88. 538 aggregates many polls. Realclearpolitics doesn't.

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:55 PM

Feb 2020

"and I read thousands of items,"

Yes, that sounds like you indeed were using "thousands" of sources or mentions. And you finally come up with one cherry picked poll... that doesn't support your 10 point lead claim.

And it turns out that my source wasn't "Different issue and different statistics (non sequitor)" - the link you shared measured the very same "issue" and "statistic."

Care to move the goalposts again?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders drew a crowd of 11,400 at his rally in Denver, CO [View all] melman Feb 2020 OP

Just getting warmed up. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #1

Yes, but I'm sure Bernie somehow will be criticized for these large crowds...after all, it's Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #4

Did the people drive or fly there? denem Feb 2020 #7

see #31 redstateblues Feb 2020 #34

He had huge crowds in 2016 and lost by 3 million votes redstateblues Feb 2020 #31

How far did Joe Biden get the last two times he ran? lutherj Feb 2020 #52

No one likes him. CentralMass Feb 2020 #2

Lol. You beat me to it. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #3

++ 🙀 lunasun Feb 2020 #16

Hehe... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #17

He's all ALONE. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #21

11,400 haters got together to prove it to him. zackymilly Feb 2020 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #5

I honestly think the nomination process could be over LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #6

Something special ... windmills in the sky. denem Feb 2020 #9

I have to give you credit for trying really hard ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #13

Only from last time. denem Feb 2020 #15

I guess the people on the trail forgot to tell the 11,400 people who came to see him ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #19

He's the only one that really generates OliverQ Feb 2020 #11

... other than trump denem Feb 2020 #18

Trump's rallies aren't that big most of the time and he pays people OliverQ Feb 2020 #20

I wouldn't know ... 5 seconds of trump on TV and I grab the remote. denem Feb 2020 #25

But Bloomberg's rallies will be even bigger than Bernie's! at140 Feb 2020 #35

Plus you also get a free T shirt lunasun Feb 2020 #41

Sign me up!! at140 Feb 2020 #43

A free tshirt?!?! OK sure, I'll give up on the guy who'll bring affordable Universal healthcare InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #60

"Without out of pocket costs" Wrong again... ehrnst Feb 2020 #64

+ Healthcare for all or a hummus plate? lunasun Feb 2020 #69

Maybe if you throw in a gyro!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #61

special in primary evertonfc Feb 2020 #30

Yeah, promises he can't deliver. All populists do that, and a lot of people still_one Feb 2020 #33

Will Biden win SC? at140 Feb 2020 #36

That is up to his campaign. In my view if he doesn't win SC it is over for him still_one Feb 2020 #45

Then I would conclude voters are not intelligent enough at140 Feb 2020 #49

Believe it or not, I actually agree with your assessment. In fact I believe out of all of our still_one Feb 2020 #53

I am so disappointed but it is not just voters I blame media . I like both sanders and Biden but lunasun Feb 2020 #54

SC doesn't even matter anymore as far as Joe's concerned... Bernie has already dispensed with Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #63

Makes sense, extremism of Trump will pave the path for Bernie ..eom at140 Feb 2020 #74

That's certainly part true; its also Bernie's positive appeal to the workin class & poverty stricken InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #82

I just have to wonder if they'll vote for him. ehrnst Feb 2020 #89

I have to ask LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #81

That's massive. OliverQ Feb 2020 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author lunasun Feb 2020 #14

The GOP have not started on Bernie yet. denem Feb 2020 #26

You are right, except this will be far worse still_one Feb 2020 #29

How would giving the vote the Dylann Roof, the Charleston church mass murder, denem Feb 2020 #37

Nah, Bernie has a teflon shield! at140 Feb 2020 #38

'Dukakis Lead Widens, According to New Poll' denem Feb 2020 #39

Does Bernie have a Willie Horton in his background? at140 Feb 2020 #40

Not in his background, his future. denem Feb 2020 #44

Something that would be just as much of a deal breaker as Willie Horton? ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

Many voters do not know SWP, but they know more about violent criminals at140 Feb 2020 #73

It will be all over the media if Bernie is nominated. ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

I still think a violent criminal release registers more with at140 Feb 2020 #80

It doesn't need to be at the level of a violent criminal release to send voters into a tailspin. ehrnst Feb 2020 #84

Um...no. 538 has Sanders at +4.3 not 10. Biden's at +5.6 and Bloomberg's at +6 ehrnst Feb 2020 #67

Different issue and different statistics (non sequitor) at140 Feb 2020 #72

You said: "Bernie is already polling 10 points higher than tRump." ehrnst Feb 2020 #77

I read that somewhere, at140 Feb 2020 #79

So that "10+point lead" is something that you "saw somewhere" and can't back up ehrnst Feb 2020 #85

I did not say I read that poll 1000 times, and Sanders is doing best against Trump in Texas! at140 Feb 2020 #86

General Election: Trump vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Sanders 51, Trump 43 Sanders +8 at140 Feb 2020 #87

538 aggregates many polls. Realclearpolitics doesn't. ehrnst Feb 2020 #88

TRUE DAT! You saw that skill in the Democratic debates the way Bernie counters unfounded criticism. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #83

really? NJCher Feb 2020 #46

'The GOP has not started on Bernie yet' denem Feb 2020 #47

Flog that straw man... ehrnst Feb 2020 #68

Because that represents only Sanders base. He has not demonstrated he is able to move still_one Feb 2020 #48

Don't blame them. If Sanders were in town, I'd go, too. musicblind Feb 2020 #10

Great speaker? still_one Feb 2020 #28

Somebody posted wide angle pic that was impressive , but reading the number count is too Thanks lunasun Feb 2020 #12

Sure is!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #71

Didn't Warren get 20,000 in NY (in Sep) and 15,000 in Seattle (in Aug)? Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #22

Did someone say this was the biggest rally crowd in history? melman Feb 2020 #23

tRump breaks that record with 110,000 people rally next month! at140 Feb 2020 #42

That poor straw man!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #90

Nader got bigger crowds.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #91

Sad so many never got to see him. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #24

Kicking for all those anti-Trump folks! democrank Feb 2020 #27

11,000 evertonfc Feb 2020 #32

We nominate burrowowl Feb 2020 #56

Big deal! Bloomberg drew $11.4 million out of his bank account in response. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #51

I think of drawing large rallies of people as a negative. gulliver Feb 2020 #55

It's not a negative, it's just not necessarily an indicator of widespread support ehrnst Feb 2020 #78

I thought dick-waving was only for Trump. bitterross Feb 2020 #57

now if Sanders does not get the nomination MFM008 Feb 2020 #58

One thing good imo for this year is it's looking like no third option to draw in any sour grapes lunasun Feb 2020 #59

I'm betting more than 90% of them. CalFione Feb 2020 #62

I remember when Nader drew crowds of 15,000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #65

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #75