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Vivienne235729

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22. I can appreciate moving leftwards. But I don't think the horse y'all picked will get you there.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:17 PM
Feb 2020

I don't think Bernie will be able to get anything done. People don't like him in congress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Some kinda wind. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #1
FDR and Reagan got elected first. brooklynite Feb 2020 #2
Correct, that's why we should vote for him. DanTex Feb 2020 #3
Noam Chomsky often speaks of the acceptable limits of debate. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #4
They are popular, they just don't have the votes in Congress Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #8
The votes are not there in part because the voters are not demanding the votes. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #11
Economically the center has move to the right, socially to the left andym Feb 2020 #15
And that move is aided by the media framing guillaumeb Feb 2020 #16
Picking a candidate farther to the left does not... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #5
It does if that candidate wins the presidency on the back of an DanTex Feb 2020 #6
Unless the House and Senate choose not to go along. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #18
Well, then the house and senate need to change too. DanTex Feb 2020 #21
Got a magic wand? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #23
Even better, a motivated progressive majority. DanTex Feb 2020 #24
I hope you're right. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #26
I'm not predicting 60 in the senate either. Impossible with the 2020 map. DanTex Feb 2020 #29
I agree BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #32
Bernie is a populist anti Trump, tit for tat escalation. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #7
Thank You! BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #20
True dat. Bernie is (and has been) clear-eyed about what our republic... polichick Feb 2020 #9
and when they fail to win in the GE against Trump, CalFione Feb 2020 #10
We won't have a Democracy. octoberlib Feb 2020 #13
The Bernie movement is about demagoguery, false promises and purity. octoberlib Feb 2020 #12
All his movement has done so far is push the country further rightward... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #14
How does that talking point still exist??? I don't get it! DanTex Feb 2020 #19
Because Hillary's diehards in 2008 didn't cost us the election, because it wasn't close. CalFione Feb 2020 #25
That "talking point" still exists because it is a fact supported by data. lapucelle Feb 2020 #28
Because it's true. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #38
And in the face of all evidence to the contrary, it continues.... DanTex Feb 2020 #39
Sanders did glorified book tour events on the Hillary campaign's dime. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #40
Exactly and we know they can't spin it. Cha Feb 2020 #27
??? mcar Feb 2020 #17
I can appreciate moving leftwards. But I don't think the horse y'all picked will get you there. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #22
I do not think this is limited to Bernie Moderateguy Feb 2020 #36
I think Warren could have done it. But she has the gender obstacle to overcome. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #37
...regardless of what voters want. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #30
Bernie's platform is highly popular with voters, it polls very well across the board. DanTex Feb 2020 #31
The problem is, not enough voters to win the GE. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #33
According to polls, yes, there are. DanTex Feb 2020 #34
Polls don't vote. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #35
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