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D23MIURG23

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163. I think the fact trump was elected should put "electability" to bed.

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:55 PM

Feb 2020

The real "unelectable" candidate is a flat, samey Al Gore or John Kerry candidate. We should nominate a candidate who appears to stand for something, and one who can motivate the base, not one who seems "safe".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Well, it's not Bloomberg. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #1

I'll go with Joe. That works. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #4

... handmade34 Feb 2020 #27

Joe, of course. tavernier Feb 2020 #142

I agree. GOTV will by HUGE in this election -- especially among POC Martin Eden Feb 2020 #122

+100 nt dware Feb 2020 #2

since you put it in caps it must be true right Blues Heron Feb 2020 #3

Based on what? The voters we need to get back will not vote for a socialist. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #11

Please provide your analysis, your data that helped you arrive at that conclusion, please help us Perseus Feb 2020 #118

This isn't rocket science. There are polls. Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #139

Any Democrat will be labeled as a socialist, not sure where you got those polls Perseus Feb 2020 #157

You obviously didn't read the link or you wouldn't be asking were I got the poll from... Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #159

Then Bernie should lose the Primary. No worries. jalan48 Feb 2020 #5

Exactly. And I also remember when people were sure America would not vote for a black man. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #34

Bernie is no Obama. Obama was inspirational. Bernie is an angry shouter redstateblues Feb 2020 #51

I would pick a different standard for comparison if I were you ... earthside Feb 2020 #119

Possibly, If It's Not Rigged Me. Feb 2020 #54

Yes we've seen that before. jalan48 Feb 2020 #129

Democratic Socialist. Who is leading in all the polls. DanTex Feb 2020 #6

Thanks to GOP interference aeromanKC Feb 2020 #13

And lack of a deep dive-- so far-- into Bernie's baggage. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2020 #39

This is news to me, any source for that? n/t ramen Feb 2020 #124

Come on... DaDeacon Feb 2020 #138

People won't give you that because we know it's useless Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #144

At least you admit it... DaDeacon Feb 2020 #149

That you're a sociopath? Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #154

saddly no... DaDeacon Feb 2020 #178

You said this of yourself, not me Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #184

Pardon? Seeking a source for an unsupported claim that Sanders' early lead is ramen Feb 2020 #164

yup highmindedhavi Feb 2020 #166

Plenty of people think a socialist would be infinitely better than 45. LonePirate Feb 2020 #7

"plenty" does not win an election handmade34 Feb 2020 #25

"Plenty", as opposed to a majority, won the election for Trump whathehell Feb 2020 #46

"my corner of America" handmade34 Feb 2020 #55

"The United Stated is a big, diverse world"...No kidding -- I've spent 70 whathehell Feb 2020 #66

don't be sorry... handmade34 Feb 2020 #85

What people don't get is that Socialism isn't the big "scare" it whathehell Feb 2020 #101

Vermont here as well and Steve Schmidt is wrong. paleotn Feb 2020 #112

I question whether that's the case in swing states gollygee Feb 2020 #52

Yes, at least trump is not a socialist, he is a maniac who is destroying the country and democracy Perseus Feb 2020 #126

You'd be surprised how many people feel that way nt gollygee Feb 2020 #165

If the disaffected vote for Trump, they will be voting for a Socialist. Trump likes NCjack Feb 2020 #68

I don't think liberals will vote for someone Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #8

Well maybe they should do some god damn research before purporting to know wtf they are UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #20

What exactly are they getting wrong from what I posted? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #23

They are getting WRONG how socialism is still perceived. This isn't 30 years in the future UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #30

Gen X and younger have more people than Boomers and older Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #40

Yeah we'll get called Socialist but Sanders has RECEIPTS to back that up. Excuse me but UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #43

I live in a Socialist country. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #79

Good thing that isn't what Sanders is proposing, then. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #81

I thought that sorta supported Sanders. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #83

My bad. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #87

I also don't think the term Socialist is a dirty word. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #92

I really think it is just bad for those that are older than Gen X Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #94

I'm old. I get it. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #95

I hate repeating myself, too, but the die off is happening now. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #86

Sanders has the ability to slip those punches.. mtron32 Feb 2020 #137

Perception is EVERYTHING. calimary Feb 2020 #162

Don't be afraid. mtron32 Feb 2020 #171

It's a very toxic label redstateblues Feb 2020 #53

Why? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #82

In 1964, yes. paleotn Feb 2020 #121

especially an 80 evertonfc Feb 2020 #9

Bernie as the nominee is SUICIDE for our party and our country. WAKE UP EVERYONE. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #12

old white billionaires would be the death of us. 5X Feb 2020 #105

Sanders as the nominee will flip Virginia to Trump. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #10

And how do you know this? Bluepinky Feb 2020 #14

AMERICA. IS. NOT. VOTING. FOR. A. SOCIALIST. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #16

Your opinion. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #22

Polls disagree with you. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #24

I could show you polls that do agree with me. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #32

How many polls show Sanders losing to Trump? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #41

polls are so reliable EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #36

How are you supporting your claim that people won't vote for him? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #42

Activate CAPS LOCK nobuddy Feb 2020 #48

Probably hoping to roll a nat 20, too. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #72

No, every random person and their uncle are much more reliable whathehell Feb 2020 #49

My goodness, you are sure adamant about your position. Let's let the voters decide.. secondwind Feb 2020 #62

Stop hyperventilating. paleotn Feb 2020 #117

You hope. Iggo Feb 2020 #170

nah... handmade34 Feb 2020 #21

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #31

OMG seriously? They did no such thing (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #56

What? She easily beat Sanders in the primary. brush Feb 2020 #64

I think 2018 illustrated that perfectly. Most Bernie backed candidates LOST. Do we want to win or UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #15

+100 EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #17

THE CAPS LOCK HAS LOGGED ON nobuddy Feb 2020 #18

Oh noes! Not teh caps lock! My eyes! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #76

Ah, but Bernie is the perfect candidate to escalate on the GOP. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #19

Much of America wants a democratic socialist. As Bernie has said, Politicub Feb 2020 #26

America won't elect a Socialist. My Trump hating spouse won't vote for a Socialist redstateblues Feb 2020 #58

I wouldn't know how to convince someone like your spouse that by not casting a vote, Politicub Feb 2020 #125

If Bernie is the nominee, she is voting for Trump. paleotn Feb 2020 #133

She's not voting for Trump redstateblues Feb 2020 #179

Your wife is giving Trump a vote Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #134

A Democratic Socialist...like the rest of the industrialized world. Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #28

"ignorance is ramant about this issue" AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #37

Agreed. n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #38

Careful, you're the one showing ingorance. brush Feb 2020 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Feb 2020 #84

K&R Sloumeau Feb 2020 #29

Too risky to take the chance this time. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #33

I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp for some people....talk about living in a bubble! nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #45

And the next time, and the next time, ... FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #80

ALL OR NOTHING IronLionZion Feb 2020 #35

WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!11!!!!1!! demmiblue Feb 2020 #44

It's more than just who can get elected Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #47

then counting Feb 2020 #60

Joe, Elizabeth, or Amy n/t Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #67

Yup - nothing wrong with settling! jmg257 Feb 2020 #50

538 Concurs corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #59

Your facts were not in ALL CAPS nobuddy Feb 2020 #63

You May Not Think Much Of 538 But Most DUers Do corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #65

they were wrong in 2016 nobuddy Feb 2020 #69

you do know about margins of error, yeah? Piasladic Feb 2020 #161

Where do you get your information from? As far as I can tell, this is just your opinion, right? secondwind Feb 2020 #61

Chris Matthews, is that you? Anaxamander Feb 2020 #70

It's using our taxes for the people instead of corporations or war machines peoli Feb 2020 #71

Hard to understand why tiredtoo Feb 2020 #73

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #74

I disagree, American's will take a Socialist over a criminal autocratic dictator. W T F Feb 2020 #75

Didn't he serve safeinOhio Feb 2020 #89

Right, no socialist is running. elleng Feb 2020 #77

Easy answer..when ONE individual accumulates more wealth than 150 million Americans combined, at140 Feb 2020 #78

Double posting this from Facebook, think about it. tiredtoo Feb 2020 #88

Beaut. MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #98

Sanders is at 50% with under 50s Sympthsical Feb 2020 #90

Try a little windex on your crystal ball, polling says something different... rwsanders Feb 2020 #91

That's fine because we don't have a Socialist(TM) running. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #93

Everyone is my family has told me that they WILL NOT vote for a Socialist... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #96

did you ask them who they will vote for? and do you believe them? NT tiredtoo Feb 2020 #100

Do they like fascist dictators instead? paleotn Feb 2020 #120

They know their vote won't make a difference and that Trump will win anyway... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #128

And in doing so, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. paleotn Feb 2020 #136

Again: Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #141

Won't make a bit of difference put Trump in the White House and will do so again. paleotn Feb 2020 #147

They've done well for themselves, haven't they? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #151

You don't vote blue no matter who..it's more babies in cages. paleotn Feb 2020 #156

I cannot control what they do. Why are you attacking me? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #158

We can't give the GOP a narrative.... Chakaconcarne Feb 2020 #97

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE CERTIFIED! oasis Feb 2020 #99

Give it up please... Perseus Feb 2020 #102

Corporate Socialism Liberalhammer Feb 2020 #103

I want a form of national health care... the_sly_pig Feb 2020 #104

Nope, there are plenty of countries in the World where the citizens enjoy Universal Healthcare Perseus Feb 2020 #111

What I would like to know is how Sanders is allowed on the Dem ticket if he is not a Dem? Maraya1969 Feb 2020 #106

Hey....there's a key over on the left side of the keyboard... paleotn Feb 2020 #107

CNN-Bernie Sanders misled America. Voters aren't comfortable with a socialist President Gothmog Feb 2020 #108

Really??? Traildogbob Feb 2020 #109

Socialism Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #110

The GOP calls everyone a socialist. It's a meaningless scare word for them. nt Gore1FL Feb 2020 #173

i will answer one of your statements Perseus Feb 2020 #113

I'm FULLY ON BOARD WITH BERNIE James48 Feb 2020 #114

Most voters are unable to parse the difference Ferryboat Feb 2020 #115

I reluctantly agree ... earthside Feb 2020 #116

I Agree Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #127

Here's the bet - Dan Feb 2020 #123

You can always identify a valid argument jcgoldie Feb 2020 #130

Agreed. If anyone wants to start a socialist party, feel free. R B Garr Feb 2020 #131

Watch them. gldstwmn Feb 2020 #132

Let This Be A Lesson blue-wave Feb 2020 #135

In fairness Bernie has had many legislative accomplishments. He's not my choice. mahina Feb 2020 #140

I feel like every time I log into Tien1985 Feb 2020 #143

I agree with 90% of Sanders' positions and would vote for him ... Mila18 Feb 2020 #145

BULLSHIT...I am voting blue all the way thru and pbmus Feb 2020 #146

Since you're only snowybirdie Feb 2020 #148

Its not rocket science but it is a very interesting rorschach test. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #150

Republicans have abused the English language beyond recognition. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2020 #152

SHOUTING DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #153

You don't even need to make it as broad as "America," AleksS Feb 2020 #155

Sanders Won Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #174

I don't disagree JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #160

I think the fact trump was elected should put "electability" to bed. D23MIURG23 Feb 2020 #163

For people under 45, Socialist is no longer a dirty word. We were never indoctrinated SweetieD Feb 2020 #167

Repubs will argue MFM008 Feb 2020 #168

Their lack of a dictionary shouldn't curtail our choices, though. nt Gore1FL Feb 2020 #175

Relevant Ronald Wright quote anamnua Feb 2020 #169

It MaKeS tHe PoInT bEtTeR iF yOu AlTeRnAtE cAsE. nT Gore1FL Feb 2020 #172

No America won't vote for a socialist. Progressive dog Feb 2020 #176

Quit yelling. n/t Boulevardier Feb 2020 #177

we are a capitalist country and be need somebody to represent dumptrump1 Feb 2020 #180

Well, then it's a good thing that Bernie is NOT a socialist. Laelth Feb 2020 #181

"I am a socialist; of course I am a socialist" - Bernie Sanders maximusveritas Feb 2020 #182

Amen to that! Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #183

I wouldn't say Bernie is any further left than FDR Wabbajack_ Feb 2020 #185