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135. Sanders doesn't have any historical swing state banding that indicates he gets outside of MOE. The

Reply to Kurt V. (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

Feb 2020

... national polls don't matter, Sanders isn't beating Trump in the swing states Biden is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign [View all] Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP

Of course they're trying to help Sanders. They know Trump can beat him. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #1

In many respects, PatSeg Feb 2020 #3

And they are taking full advantage of it with the blessings of the GOP. ...nt 2naSalit Feb 2020 #68

They are masters at this stuff PatSeg Feb 2020 #71

Indeed. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #76

That's not it. Sanders can well beat trump. It's to divide dems. It's working :( Kurt V. Feb 2020 #32

The WaPo story said that Russia is trying to help the BS campaign. lapucelle Feb 2020 #64

The truth is.... tiredtoo Feb 2020 #77

"Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign" lapucelle Feb 2020 #84

Of course not Butterflylady Feb 2020 #94

i think it's meant to ultimately help trump Kurt V. Feb 2020 #142

I do as well. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #145

Sanders doesn't have any historical swing state banding that indicates he gets outside of MOE. The uponit7771 Feb 2020 #135

yes but.. these percentages in the swing state polling is still very close for biden and sanders. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #146

Biden bot bro Bear Creek Feb 2020 #86

Whoa! PatSeg Feb 2020 #2

We're fucked. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #4

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #5

Ah but Sanders, once again you miss the point. Putin, Republicans know if you are nominated you will krissey Feb 2020 #6

Of course that is the message they are trying to send. soldierant Feb 2020 #90

They have polls, and they have the garbage on Sanders. They went after Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, krissey Feb 2020 #115

You may be right. soldierant Feb 2020 #118

"But it's equally consistent with" No. It isn't, unless he made a promise to continue voting nay krissey Feb 2020 #129

Exactly! Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #140

So the Russians are manipulating all of the polling? YOHABLO Feb 2020 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #9

I don't think Sanders needs the Russians help. You are implying that not me. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #14

Are you here to argue that the Russians are ''helping'' Bernie? YOHABLO Feb 2020 #16

Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign ehrnst Feb 2020 #29

Well, apparently they are certainly hoping that he's doing well ehrnst Feb 2020 #19

Hoping and Doing are two entirely different things. What efforts? YOHABLO Feb 2020 #22

"Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign" ehrnst Feb 2020 #26

Yes, and so he's been briefed, I'm sure his campaign staff are being vigilant. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #35

Oh please. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #55

Perhaps leftieNanner Feb 2020 #78

There's A Big Lack Of Transparency Me. Feb 2020 #123

Of course. Like they were after they were told about Russian ehrnst Feb 2020 #104

Well, I'll Tell You What I Wonder About Me. Feb 2020 #119

Yeah, I'm Russia is the single biggest reason why Bernie John Fante Feb 2020 #102

When one feels the need to deploy the "attacking a straw man" fallacy... ehrnst Feb 2020 #105

Don't play coy. John Fante Feb 2020 #107

Coy? ehrnst Feb 2020 #111

Your non-answer has been noted. John Fante Feb 2020 #112

Hon, that poor, flogged straw man has been noted. ehrnst Feb 2020 #113

Tell me what you think of this: ehrnst Feb 2020 #117

... lapucelle Feb 2020 #128

"Back up your bullshit"? George II Feb 2020 #138

Maybe, there's no op sec compliance with US polling companies. They just do what they want uponit7771 Feb 2020 #46

A lot of conspiracy theories being thrown around now. Gee wonder why? YOHABLO Feb 2020 #47

So You Don't Believe Our Intelligence People Either? Me. Feb 2020 #121

They did that 2016. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #92

The honorable thing for Sanders to do would be to drop out. Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #8

Wouldn't that give the Russians a victory in fucking with our elections? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #11

No one is saying that he should be forced out ehrnst Feb 2020 #24

No, they only care about keeping Trump in office Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #59

Other than Biden, no one polls better than Trump than Bernie. John Fante Feb 2020 #110

Perhaps not yet, but the full onslaught of opposition research has yet to be revealed. Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #116

The honorable thing would be to stop bashing Bernie Sanders. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #23

Expressing the opinion that he withdraw, on his own, is "bashing?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #25

He's leading in all polls. Suggesting he ''drop-out'' is ludicrous. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #27

But....why is he leading in the polls? Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #31

No, I'd say because people believe in Bernie more so than the other candidates. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #37

Exactly. We already have confirmation that polls were manipulated to favor Trump... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #45

Confirmation of what? I've seen no evidence. No evidence, no case. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #50

Then you're not paying close enough attention. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #52

Uh, yeah you have my undivided attention. Right Now. Go for it. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #53

LOL! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #58

Not sure what your intent is with that. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #61

I'm relieved to see that you recognize that you're arguing from a position of weakness... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #79

So the Mueller report was false/fake too? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #63

Oh please. That's not even part of the discussion. Next. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #69

The Mueller Report concluded, based on the evidence they had, that Russia helped both.... George II Feb 2020 #75

Ummm, Sorry. It has everything to do with this discussion. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #80

Yeah, I read the report. Is it suppose to persuade me to vote for a particular candidate? YOHABLO Feb 2020 #91

Ummm sheshe2 Feb 2020 #93

You think all those Sanders supporters who shared Bot posts in the GE were "intellectually weak?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #108

Yeah, that's what we thought. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #144

Ok, exactly how do you think Russia is impacting the polls? JudyM Feb 2020 #97

Well, the GOP has certainly been promoting him, while attacking Biden ehrnst Feb 2020 #106

Not seeing how polls of Dem voters were impacted by Russians here. JudyM Feb 2020 #122

I said the GOP has certainly been promoting Bernie. ehrnst Feb 2020 #130

That's ridiculous. John Fante Feb 2020 #114

Sanders supporters were petitioning the DNC to make HRC to drop out ehrnst Feb 2020 #33

I was a Sanders supporter in 2016 and I didn't petition anyone. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #40

I didn't say you did. ehrnst Feb 2020 #41

Well it's all news to me. Never heard of a petition to make Sanders the nominee. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #44

You weren't paying attention... ehrnst Feb 2020 #49

Yeah, I've got a thought. MOVE ON ! IT'S OVER. WE GOT TRUMP. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #51

The truth really hurts, doesn't it? ehrnst Feb 2020 #57

Unbelievable. I'd forgotten about them. To think both of them were long after the Convention.... George II Feb 2020 #67

I will never forget. ehrnst Feb 2020 #95

If you know that Putin wants us to nominate Sanders to keep Trump in office, Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #65

I'm going to vote. That's the honorable thing to do. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #73

I agree, but Sanders will not turn loose of this last chance for ehrnst Feb 2020 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #38

Deja vu. dalton99a Feb 2020 #10

Julia Ioffe: They supported him in 2016, too. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #13

He was told that was happening during the general election and he said NOTHING ehrnst Feb 2020 #36

+1, this time he has no choice ie the statement. This is so screwed up ... so screwed up uponit7771 Feb 2020 #43

Why Is What I Want To Know Me. Feb 2020 #120

SHHHHHH!!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #131

Larry O'D Just Said He Was Told A Month Ago Me. Feb 2020 #136

Help for Bernie from Putin is Progressive dog Feb 2020 #15

Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #18

... redqueen Feb 2020 #21

So why then would they be posing as Cha Feb 2020 #17

Their #1 goal is to sow division in the Democratic Party, to weaken us. Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #39

Excellent Question Me. Feb 2020 #137

Doesn't make sense.. my Educated guess is they are Cha Feb 2020 #139

Dennis Donovan, Sorry! I didn't see you had posted this! Mike 03 Feb 2020 #20

No worries - well, I am worried, but not about dupes Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #34

They are apparently living in Iowa posing as ordinary Iowans znd have infiltrated CentralMass Feb 2020 #30

That poor straw man.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #60

shit uponit7771 Feb 2020 #42

If Bernie "wins" the party's nomination... it will be tainted. People will always wonder... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #48

No need to wonder aeromanKC Feb 2020 #56

If he gets the nomination (by whatever means), what about the GE? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #81

I know... by then it will be too late. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #83

And trump will say - 'The Russians aren't supporting me, they're backing the communist' denem Feb 2020 #82

That's exactly right... he already knows how to frame it. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #85

Bernie will not be the nominee. denem Feb 2020 #88

Right on time. denem Feb 2020 #100

+1, & it will be his fault for not denouncement outside involvement in US elections when he found ou uponit7771 Feb 2020 #126

Did bribri believe the officials? lapucelle Feb 2020 #54

Basing an argument on trump being right means you lost the argument. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #62

It is remarkable that bri was shilling that RW talking point during the 2016 general election. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #70

Goodness me... ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

Neither trump nor Putin want Joe to be the nominee Gothmog Feb 2020 #72

They've each worked hard to undermine him. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #74

That's a factor for sure. Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #98

+1, Fact Not In Dispute .. makes me want to support him more uponit7771 Feb 2020 #125

Eventually, more details will come out disndat Feb 2020 #87

Buttigeig knows something ... I pray he tells everyone else. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #127

so, what is the federal government going to do about it, Bernie & I pay taxes so this kind of thing yaesu Feb 2020 #89

I think that was a responsible statement. Sanders can't help who Putin wants to help. C Moon Feb 2020 #96

No, Sanders could've denounced outside involvement in US elections the second he found out & decided uponit7771 Feb 2020 #133

Yes there is. I said on another post I have no idea what Bernie is going PatrickforO Feb 2020 #99

When someone is being ratfucked they shouldn't try to keep it a secret for a month. No? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #101

If democratic voters show up, it doesn't John Fante Feb 2020 #103

Well, that's what Russia did in 2016... convinced voters not to turn out ehrnst Feb 2020 #109

+1, .... and they funded 3rd party candidates in the swing states that over performed 300% each uponit7771 Feb 2020 #124

Same station.... Skid Rogue Feb 2020 #132

+1, and no one is asking why it took him a month to denounce outside involvement in US elections uponit7771 Feb 2020 #134

Yes, of course Skid Rogue Feb 2020 #141

Again. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #143