Democratic Primaries

madibella

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147. Wow. Yesterday's news brings incredible clarity to the whole

Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:38 AM

Feb 2020

situation.

Inexplicably, something happened suddenly with the polls in Bernie’s favor, the wins/placement in the first two races etc. it was like someone stepped on the gas and Bernie became the front runner kind of out of nowhere. And yes, he is popular with many who truly believe in him.

But, something was not adding up. And now it does. He was being helped by the exact entity who helped Trump win.

First, get Bernie the nomination, then get Trump the presidency. Bots, money, people. He’s got his real followers and a coordinated and nefarious faction who will literally do anything to push him over the finish line.

They want Bernie and it appears that they are well on their way to meeting their goal. In my opinion a Bernie nomination equals 4 more years of Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie's got news for the Democratic establishment. [View all] pnwmom Feb 2020 OP

I like this news. David__77 Feb 2020 #1

I bet you do. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #11

I can appreciate a good sassafras. David__77 Feb 2020 #14

I do too the berner Feb 2020 #52

Well this is the DEMOCRATIC underground where we support the Democrats and their establishment. UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #56

Biden Bear Creek Feb 2020 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #60

He supports them Bear Creek Feb 2020 #64

Is this your attempt at some 'breaking news'? I mean really. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #66

He has a point about Biden. nt SylviaD Feb 2020 #166

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #94

He was a Senator in a State where Banks incorporate. wisteria Feb 2020 #107

Bernie is a Democrat the berner Feb 2020 #67

Wolf in sheep's clothing. You can't fool all the people. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #69

Yes he is. Bear Creek Feb 2020 #75

Did FDR trash the Democratic Party? hangaleft Feb 2020 #96

It was a different Democratic party in FDR's day. Paka Feb 2020 #106

I'm a radical lefty myself hangaleft Feb 2020 #115

THIS. JudyM Feb 2020 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author hangaleft Feb 2020 #124

Did FDR trash the Party that he needed help from to implement his agenda? ehrnst Feb 2020 #169

FDR was the pre-eminent anti-establishment president NoDakLinda Feb 2020 #116

Ivy League educated, Beltway bureaucrat, political dynasty ehrnst Feb 2020 #168

Unemployment was at 30% and people were standing in bread lines. The times were different. octoberlib Feb 2020 #171

Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat ehrnst Feb 2020 #165

Nope. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #86

And how many years has he caucused with them? McTwisty Feb 2020 #102

Yes, he sure Skidmore Feb 2020 #174

Sanders because a Democrat because he couldn't run and have a chance to win. wisteria Feb 2020 #108

when was the last time you checked EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #118

That's funny because Tom Perez said on MSNBC today that as of this moment Sanders is a registered octoberlib Feb 2020 #170

++++++10000 wisteria Feb 2020 #103

Berners don't believe in the Democratic party The Polack MSgt Feb 2020 #126

They say we're worse. betsuni Feb 2020 #141

And he dosen't change what he's saying. NoDakLinda Feb 2020 #70

"Doesn't change what he's saying." ehrnst Feb 2020 #167

How so? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #90

We need a candidate to Unite the Democratic party.. Cha Feb 2020 #136

Interesting thread... fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #137

oh gawd.. Cha Feb 2020 #138

Very. And it has been such a steady drip I didn't put together how consistent it is. Squinch Feb 2020 #156

Bernie speaks for every working class voter who's been ignored FAR too long & its why he's got this! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #142

I'm to the left of Bernie and I don't. ancianita Feb 2020 #20

I don't think Sanders is all that "left," whatever that means. David__77 Feb 2020 #23

Yep. The reddit political quadrants come to mind. ancianita Feb 2020 #27

Most people Bear Creek Feb 2020 #63

The other bill of rights is a good one! David__77 Feb 2020 #65

Democrat candidates Bear Creek Feb 2020 #73

I suppose that is what primaries can do, determine that. David__77 Feb 2020 #74

That is why Bear Creek Feb 2020 #76

"Democrat" candidates should do that? You think so? Squinch Feb 2020 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #164

We need someone to Unite the Democratic Party.. Cha Feb 2020 #135

UNITY NOW! George II Feb 2020 #2

How did you get off full ignore thanks ? stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #3

Sanders is ... NOT ... saying democratic establishment and republican establishment are the same ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #4

Sure he isn't. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #7

OBVIOUSLY,but its Bernie, so bash away! Gets old after awhile, tho it boosts Bernie in the polls... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #29

Nah, Sanders wouldn't say something like that ... not at all .... sigh uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31

No he wouldn't... thanks for recognizing that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #37

Did you Not Read the OP?!! Cha Feb 2020 #172

Nope, he's not saying it....... oasis Feb 2020 #61

This is the kind of tweet I would expect from Tulsi CalFione Feb 2020 #5

I don't think he meant it the way she would renate Feb 2020 #24

Not nice. cherryinpa Feb 2020 #6

This gets me ill. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #8

Sanders has not been a help in the last two years fighting off Republicans, our Democrats are the krissey Feb 2020 #9

Somewhat disturbing. bamagal62 Feb 2020 #10

How Long Before a Bernie Then Complains About Lack of Unity? What a Hypocrite. TomCADem Feb 2020 #12

THIS KIND OF CRAP IS WHY putin likes him. apcalc Feb 2020 #18

cindy nixon says he's the unity candidate.. Cha Feb 2020 #41

Post 'em the Amy Siskind tweet.. Cha Feb 2020 #128

He needs to delete this tweet cherryinpa Feb 2020 #13

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #33

Naw leave it up there. I want people to see exactly who that bitter old man is..nt helpisontheway Feb 2020 #89

Right, the group that voted unanimously to impeach Donald Trump... TwilightZone Feb 2020 #15

And the group that unanimously voted against the Trump tax cuts. betsuni Feb 2020 #91

The false equivalence is concreteblue Feb 2020 #109

This is his thing, he's been doing it for decades. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #153

JFC. This is disgusting. Squinch Feb 2020 #16

That takes Chutzpah. Hey Dem establishment! apcalc Feb 2020 #17

He's a Democratic Socialist evertonfc Feb 2020 #19

Social Democrat Bear Creek Feb 2020 #78

He probably would have been marginally better to have used Social Democrat. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #129

If Sanders is the nominee, doesn't he need that Democratic establishment to win the GE? still_one Feb 2020 #21

Wouldn't you think? Of course, the difference is pnwmom Feb 2020 #22

+++ i really hope Elizabeth Warren gets some good traction from her still_one Feb 2020 #32

I agree -- having the 2nd choice of 80% is better pnwmom Feb 2020 #45

Absolutely still_one Feb 2020 #50

+++ nt brer cat Feb 2020 #140

He needs the Democratic establishment to win the nomination if he doesn't get a majority. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #26

no. How many people work in think tanks? Not that many. How many lobbyists? not that many floppyboo Feb 2020 #34

He has made clear who he thinks are the Democratic establishment by hiring Jill Stein supporter Gray still_one Feb 2020 #42

Nooooo! Because he has an invisible revolution in his pocket. Squinch Feb 2020 #53

ahhh, now that answers my question still_one Feb 2020 #54

Seriously? musicblind Feb 2020 #25

Reminds me of Ralph Nader saying there's no difference between Gore and Bush. RockRaven Feb 2020 #28

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #30

I think we better be concerned about more than just his heart condition. Hoyt Feb 2020 #38

True. His brain couldn't have been functioning very well when he tweeted that. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #43

+++ still_one Feb 2020 #44

He got rattled the other night HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #72

This guy is a political suicide bomber, running into our party Alhena Feb 2020 #39

Best description yet! Squinch Feb 2020 #55

Excellent description. Hoyt Feb 2020 #84

And his surrogate cindy nixon says.. Cha Feb 2020 #40

Her timing was always a bit off... Squinch Feb 2020 #58

Not sure any time was good for that one.. but Cha Feb 2020 #105

I can't believe that idiotic nonsense. He's Squinch Feb 2020 #144

Not sure why he can't try to win Cha Feb 2020 #145

Not sure how he thinks saying that Democrats and republicans are equally his enemy will help him win Squinch Feb 2020 #148

A bit of the megalomaniac in that statement... nt. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #46

I'm so furious right now. Raftergirl Feb 2020 #47

I'm feeling discouraged right now. ecstatic Feb 2020 #48

It's time for us to keep our heads... BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #49

It's fucking time to start calling him out for this crap before it's too late redstateblues Feb 2020 #80

Uhhh. How would you propose he could have stopped them? JudyM Feb 2020 #87

+1 Meadowoak Feb 2020 #113

For one thing, when he learns that russia is using him to wreck our Democracy, he could have NOT Squinch Feb 2020 #146

The question is what he could've done before the generic interference was made public. JudyM Feb 2020 #154

There are a LOT of questions. One being, what does he do once he learns about it. Answer: nothing. Squinch Feb 2020 #155

Um, it was an intelligence briefing, you don't disclose that. And how can he stop internet spamming? JudyM Feb 2020 #158

You think his response, overall, was a) the best it could be? and b) as complete as it could be? Squinch Feb 2020 #160

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #51

If Bernie Sanders thinks that he is not part of the establishment because he is a Democratic... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #57

Because he has a secret revolution in his pockets that, one day, will swarm the voting booths. Squinch Feb 2020 #159

I am tired of Bernie using our party as an extended stay hotel. kellytore Feb 2020 #62

And trashing it at the same time. n/t Chemisse Feb 2020 #151

naturally he lumps everyone together subana Feb 2020 #68

We already made that rule; Bernie signed the required pledge that he's a member of our party. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #77

thanks! subana Feb 2020 #82

My guess? Never. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #97

yes, I think you're right! n/t subana Feb 2020 #152

As a Democrat I don't have a problem with this tweet or Bernie aikoaiko Feb 2020 #71

I agree Bear Creek Feb 2020 #83

+1 Meadowoak Feb 2020 #114

Do you not understand what just happened? JudyM Feb 2020 #79

Important news was reported... sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #93

What judgments? JudyM Feb 2020 #98

Whether to vote for him or not? sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #104

Knowingly receiving aid implies participating in it. He gave a powerful renunciation and threatened JudyM Feb 2020 #111

A month after it started... sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #112

It was an intel briefing. And there wasn't info about what was being done except online JudyM Feb 2020 #119

wtf is Bernie thinking?? what is he up to here? nt SylviaD Feb 2020 #81

it's all about him Skittles Feb 2020 #101

He is really starting to piss me off helpisontheway Feb 2020 #85

Brokered Convention please LW1977 Feb 2020 #88

The other 5 candidates on the debate stage pretty much said there would be. nt sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #95

I'm the dem establishment. I'm with Schiff and Pelosi showblue22 Feb 2020 #92

Which is it, Bernie? Ellen Forradalom Feb 2020 #99

... Skittles Feb 2020 #100

What? concreteblue Feb 2020 #110

Nancy and Adam are key parts of the Democratic establishment pnwmom Feb 2020 #121

Absolutely disqualifying. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #117

After all of these years Jamaal510 Feb 2020 #122

Because he's special, in his opinion. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #123

The ungrateful guest who pisses on your carpet and tries to burn your place down every four years dalton99a Feb 2020 #125

To be fair, Bernie had news a month ago but kept it to himself.... OnDoutside Feb 2020 #127

It's confusing because it's said Cha Feb 2020 #130

It's not really confusing, it's the usual heads are trying to muddy the waters. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #131

Those are good questions.. hopefully Cha Feb 2020 #132

Definitely, and this is too big an issue for Sanders to bluster his way OnDoutside Feb 2020 #133

It's the ultimate issue right now.. no Cha Feb 2020 #134

I got news for Sanders MFM008 Feb 2020 #139

That's how I feel about Joe... I do like Elizabeth though, so best of luck to her! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #143

Wow. Yesterday's news brings incredible clarity to the whole madibella Feb 2020 #147

This, exactly. Squinch Feb 2020 #161

+1, thank you ... the timing on this is horrible for Sanders. Sanders should've said something at uponit7771 Feb 2020 #163

Sounds like a trump tweet Walleye Feb 2020 #149

It does, doesn't it? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #150

Will Sanders ever join the Democratic Party? dalton99a Feb 2020 #162

I would not be surprised.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #173