Democratic Primaries

Jarqui

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80. Here's a key part of the reason why Trump & Putin want Sanders

Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:43 AM

Feb 2020

Poll of polls from Real Clear Politics
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/

PA Biden +6, Sanders +2.7 - Biden is not going to lose the state he was born and raised in. Trump's path for election gets really difficult without PA's electoral votes.

DE Biden +16, Sanders +1. Sanders puts DE in play

VA Biden +11.5, Sanders +3.5, Sanders puts VA in play

AZ Biden +0.3, Sanders -5.0 Biden puts AZ in play

NV Biden +4.0, Sanders +2.7

NH Biden +6.6, Sanders +5.0

MI Biden +5.7, Sanders +4.7

WI Biden +0.7, Sanders -0.7

GA Biden +0.3, Sanders -1.0

NC Biden +3.4, Sanders +1.0

FL Biden +1.7, Sanders +0.3

IA Biden -3.0, Sanders, -6.0

TX Biden -3.0, Sanders -4.4

Biden does better than Sanders head to head with Trump all of those battleground states.- many of them beyond the margin of error.

Trump has smeared Biden with Ukraine to get those numbers tighter. He hasn't really started in on Sanders beyond calling him a Commie.

There is a reason why Trump was so desperate to smear Biden and the GOP protective of Trump. It is all about keeping power. They figure their chances are much better to keep power if Bernie is the nominee. The polls back them up on that reasoning. They're going to shut up about Bernie until Biden is out of the picture.

That's why I switched to supporting Joe - Joe is what Trump doesn't want so lets ram Joe down Trump's vile orifice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I don't believe Putin is meddling in our elections to help Bernie win. [View all] tecelote Feb 2020 OP

Of course! True Blue American Feb 2020 #1

I'm responding to the media titles like... tecelote Feb 2020 #5

Sanders has no swing state appeal outside of MOE, of course Putin want's his whore Trump to run ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #2

What is MOE? Kurt V. Feb 2020 #61

Margin of error TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #64

Thought so but wanted to be sure. thanks! Kurt V. Feb 2020 #65

Putin wants disruption Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #3

He wants Bernie because Bernie will be the easiest to beat. Plain and simple redstateblues Feb 2020 #103

I suspect that we will have to Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #106

Of course he will be a push over. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #110

We will see Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #115

Why not both? defacto7 Feb 2020 #107

Uh ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #4

Then that's what they should say. tecelote Feb 2020 #6

He IS getting help. NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #11

After all these years, there's new oppo? tecelote Feb 2020 #12

In a word ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #15

And, that's true only for Bernie and not all candidates? tecelote Feb 2020 #19

In a word ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #22

Whoever threatens Trump's reign will get attacked by Russia. tecelote Feb 2020 #24

That's why Russia(and the GOP) wants to help Bernie ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #26

Then you must believe that if Bernie wins, many Democrats will stay home. tecelote Feb 2020 #29

You are rambling now ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #34

Insult me. That'll help. tecelote Feb 2020 #38

First tip for getting yourself out of a hole ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #46

Ha. Keep attacking, that'll change my mind. tecelote Feb 2020 #51

Change your mind about what? NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #53

About Bernie and Russia tecelote Feb 2020 #56

I'll say it. If Bernie wins, I think many Democrats will stay home. I won't, but I think many will. Squinch Feb 2020 #63

I think you are wrong. Democrats will come out to vote. The problem is anti-Trumpers will NOT OnDoutside Feb 2020 #78

And I think BS telling people like me that we're the same as republicans will have an effect. Squinch Feb 2020 #85

After yesterday, when he let us know he considers Democrats to be equal to Republicans on his Squinch Feb 2020 #62

Unless your an actual member of the parry establishment McTwisty Feb 2020 #77

Sure. That makes it all OK. I SUPPORT my party. I REVERE Nancy Pelosi. He was talking to me. Squinch Feb 2020 #81

Wow, that's exactly how I feel Tumbulu Feb 2020 #87

Thanks for explaining that so Clearly! Cha Feb 2020 #13

looks like it is really helping him on DU, 5X Feb 2020 #93

He is getting help to win the primary. n/t whopis01 Feb 2020 #117

Why would bernie be a bad choice (on the Dem side) IF he won? jmg257 Feb 2020 #16

Oh, come on. tecelote Feb 2020 #20

With respect - That wasn't my question. jmg257 Feb 2020 #23

Didn't he play down Russian interference saying it was a distraction and voted no on sanctions? MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #36

Because none of them is Filthy Donnie. Filthy Donnie is russian gold. Not to mention Squinch Feb 2020 #67

And mayor Pete is the next easiest to beat. jaxexpat Feb 2020 #55

Bernie isn't being used by anyone,, least of all Putin. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #7

Totally agree! tecelote Feb 2020 #8

That "narrative" ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #18

I trust them. tecelote Feb 2020 #27

Of course they want Trump ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #31

Opinion. tecelote Feb 2020 #37

It has been explained to you already. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #39

Yet in 2016... jmg257 Feb 2020 #50

Exactly! tecelote Feb 2020 #21

*Fingers in ears, shouting, "LALALALALALALA"* Squinch Feb 2020 #68

Exactly liberal N proud Feb 2020 #76

Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most uponit7771 Feb 2020 #100

Wow! The elitists are really scared Bernie might win. brutus smith Feb 2020 #9

Uh, the Russians did boost Sanders's campaign in 2016. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #32

"Why weren't the ruskies trying to help Bernie win in 2016?" pazzyanne Feb 2020 #35

Derp. It's well documented that they did! MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #40

If the ruskies wanted Bernie to win they would be attacking Biden. brutus smith Feb 2020 #43

Whatever helps you sleep at night. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #47

Oh my god. Do you hear yourself?? Did you notice that impeachment we just had? Squinch Feb 2020 #70

Show me where they attacked Biden recently. brutus smith Feb 2020 #94

Wow. No, dear. This is not worth my time. I suspect you'll interpret that as your big win, so Squinch Feb 2020 #97

Didn't think you could. But thanks for the name calling. brutus smith Feb 2020 #105

Quite clearly, they were... jmg257 Feb 2020 #58

You might want to re-read the Mueller Report. They most certainly WERE helping BS in 2016. Squinch Feb 2020 #69

Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most uponit7771 Feb 2020 #101

but of course... Raster Feb 2020 #10

It's a win-win for Putin either way OKNancy Feb 2020 #14

Just curious.....when did BS say he wanted Russia in NATO? Hulk Feb 2020 #99

April 2015 OKNancy Feb 2020 #109

Again, just a question.... Hulk Feb 2020 #111

I'm afraid that Putin understands our own politics better than we do Walleye Feb 2020 #17

He has to spend his evenings drinking expensive liqour Cosmocat Feb 2020 #30

Putin does, he understands Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE but Biden doe uponit7771 Feb 2020 #102

I believe they want Bernie because they have something to use against him Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #25

Excellent point.. "..BS has never been vetting by the rw.. " Cha Feb 2020 #33

My doctor -- a Democrat -- told me today that he couldn't vote for Sanders. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2020 #28

It's a stretch to believe that the Russians merely want to sow discord and stop there. Maribelle Feb 2020 #41

And we were down this road when the intelligence agencies finally admitted that Russians Squinch Feb 2020 #71

+1, like it was a stretch to believe they hacked into systems and stopped there uponit7771 Feb 2020 #104

I agree. This election is Democrat versus Putin Raven123 Feb 2020 #42

Democracy vs Dictatorship bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #44

Exactly. He probably also thinks Trump can more easily win against Bernie. n/t Chemisse Feb 2020 #45

We don't need russia to sow discord because we have a lot on here doing it for them. brutus smith Feb 2020 #48

And somehow, BS is always at the center of the worst of it. Squinch Feb 2020 #73

Your beliefs do not change the equation bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #49

like the experts. putin thinks bernie will lose in USA. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #52

And out of all the Democratic candidates, who do we think Putin would want jmg257 Feb 2020 #54

No he wants Sanders to win...anyone but Biden is Putin and Trump's motto...Sanders will lose a Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #57

I think Putin is capable of rigging votes. I think Bernie doesn't care how how gets there. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #59

Anyone else reminded, very uncomfortably, of Trumpers' blind fealty while reading this thread? Squinch Feb 2020 #60

Yes. Let's 100% discount our national intelligence findings Generic Brad Feb 2020 #66

Well, the OP doesn't FEEL that they are right, so that clinches it. Squinch Feb 2020 #74

Very likely the case. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #72

He is helping BS win the Democratic nomination because BS can't beat trump liberal N proud Feb 2020 #75

There are two real possibilities, of which your suggestion is the most likely. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #82

Putin only wants to deal with trump liberal N proud Feb 2020 #112

100% agree. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #116

Putin is not an American citizen. Aussie105 Feb 2020 #79

Here's a key part of the reason why Trump & Putin want Sanders Jarqui Feb 2020 #80

One might say that Putin is using us to sow discord... Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #83

Sanders isn't helping. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #86

Of course NOTHING about what you just wrote Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #108

They're not mutually exclusive. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #84

Bernie sows enough BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #88

Putin wants Sanders as the dem nominee NYMinute Feb 2020 #89

I do wyldwolf Feb 2020 #90

The Democrats should be shouting out daily now duforsure Feb 2020 #91

if bernie is the nominee, be difficult NOT to see trump relected, putin's end game is further beachbumbob Feb 2020 #92

He doesn't have to meddle in the GE if he gets favorable candidates. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #95

He is helping Sanders win the primary and then Sanders loses the general...Trump can beat Sanders. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #96

Putin is trying to help Sanders win the primary, as a way of guaranteeing Trump wins the GE. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #98

it has Deero Feb 2020 #113

Putin will exploit perceptions surrounding anyone who becomes a frontrunner. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #114

They'll flip the narrative by Russia helping Bernie and not Trump. Trump will run applegrove Feb 2020 #118