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In reply to the discussion: The party isn't a place for moderates anymore [View all]Garrett78
(10,721 posts)3. Which moderates? Self-identified moderates are all over the ideological map.
People make the mistake of assuming everyone has the same definition. They don't. Not even close.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-moderate-middle-is-a-myth/
As the political scientists Donald Kinder and Nathan Kalmoe put it, after looking at five decades of public opinion research, the moderate category seems less an ideological destination than a refuge for the innocent and the confused.8 Similarly, political scientist David Broockman has also written about the meaninglessness of the moderate label, particularly as a predictor of centrism.
The takeaway is simple: As they must with independents, any pundit who talks about moderates as a key voting bloc begs that second follow-up question: Which moderates?9
The takeaway is simple: As they must with independents, any pundit who talks about moderates as a key voting bloc begs that second follow-up question: Which moderates?9
The upshot of all this is that if youre a campaign trying to appeal to independents, moderates or undecided voters or a concerned citizen trying to make sense of these groups in the context of an election policy and ideology arent good frames of reference. There just isnt much in terms of policy or ideology that unites these groups.11
Anybody who claims to have the winning formula for winning moderate, independent or undecided voters is making things up. Perhaps more centrist policies will appeal to some voters in each of these categories but so will more extreme policies.12
And come election day, these potential swing voters may not ultimately care all that much about policy. They dont tend to identify themselves based on ideology, and they dont follow politics all that closely.
Anybody who claims to have the winning formula for winning moderate, independent or undecided voters is making things up. Perhaps more centrist policies will appeal to some voters in each of these categories but so will more extreme policies.12
And come election day, these potential swing voters may not ultimately care all that much about policy. They dont tend to identify themselves based on ideology, and they dont follow politics all that closely.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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The vast majority of "independents" are completely wedded to a particular party.
Garrett78
Feb 2020
#8
Good way to lose our Democracy. If Trump wins again USA will certainly become full fascist.
Kablooie
Feb 2020
#47
Except for the fact that amongst moderates Bernie is coming in 2nd and when polled
Nanjeanne
Feb 2020
#2
People are insinuating you're using 'Democrat' instead of 'Democratic' as a slight to Dems
mr_lebowski
Feb 2020
#55
The problem is too many moderates are running, and they are taking votes away from each other
still_one
Feb 2020
#10
LMAO!! Let's be real... Bernie, despite bein the most popular politician in the country...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#61
To Sunshine Patriot Centrists, anything to the left is very far left extremists. n/t
MarcA
Feb 2020
#19
I agree the Democratic Party SHOULD be a big tent party, but seein how Bernie's been treated...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#53
It's We The People who decide the direction of the Party... thats why we're DEMOCRATS...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#15
When Bernie signed the paperwork to run & govern as a Democrat when he becomes the next POTUS.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#32
I consider Bernie to be a "Super Democrat" of sorts cuz he votes with the Democratic majority
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2020
#43
I just don't understand how saying we need to find a way to ensure health insurance and
SweetieD
Feb 2020
#30
A lot of things moderates like are courtesy of socialists of the 19th and 20th centuries.
brewens
Feb 2020
#42
there is never such a thing as too far to the left when you have been living in the extreme right
yaesu
Feb 2020
#59
Would those small areas of the country where he plays well in include Iowa, New Hampshire & Nevada?
LonePirate
Feb 2020
#70