Democratic Primaries

OliverQ

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105. Warren is my top choice, but clearly she's not getting the nomination.

Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:54 PM

Feb 2020

The closest person to her policies is Bernie, which leaves him as the best option. I'm not a fan of some of his populist style rhetoric, but then I also understand lots of people on both sides of the aisle are tired of the status quo and the career politicians who keep protecting corporations and donors at the expense of everyone else. So I can see why Bernie's anti-establishment rhetoric resonates. It worked for Trump, and seems to be working for Bernie.

Maybe the only way to beat a right-wing populist is with a left-wing populist? No Moderate/Centrist has won the GE this century. I'm not sure that's the best option to beat Trump, but what do I know. I just want Trump gone and I don't care how it's achieved. If Bernie can get the 50% that didn't vote in 2016 to vote this time, maybe things will change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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If Bernie is the nominee, this is what I'll do. [View all] The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 OP

That describes what I'll have to do if Bloomberg is the nominee, so I can relate Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #1

Bloomberg won't be the nominee. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #2

I hope you're right. I couldn't Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #7

I hope not. He did an advertising blitz on cable today Warpy Feb 2020 #150

Me too. jimfields33 Feb 2020 #59

Exactly Lunabell Feb 2020 #77

Warren is my top choice, but clearly she's not getting the nomination. OliverQ Feb 2020 #105

That judgement is way, way premature. We have had only 4 tiny contests, including 2 caucuses. pnwmom Feb 2020 #144

sounds like you think the superdelegates are your firewall NJCher Feb 2020 #160

That and all the PLEDGED delegates who will be released from their pledges pnwmom Feb 2020 #162

I can't say what I think NJCher Feb 2020 #163

And I will do the same if cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #109

Yes. Me too in everything you said. n/t ginnyinWI Feb 2020 #3

THIS Zoonart Feb 2020 #4

I applaud your honesty, my dear Velveteen Ocelot! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #5

you have expressed my sentiments exactly handmade34 Feb 2020 #6

Just curious, what is your opinion of Bernie as a Vermont resident? smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #28

he is an ok Senator handmade34 Feb 2020 #65

Is Sanders still campaigning on disndat Feb 2020 #71

If I voted based on the chances soldierant Feb 2020 #131

Thank you for your thoughtful post. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #73

"Nose holding" occurs quite a bit. David__77 Feb 2020 #8

This... Moderateguy Feb 2020 #9

I say Rebl2 Feb 2020 #12

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Feb 2020 #17

are you assuming he would beat Trump? Skittles Feb 2020 #137

Actually, until we can get some polling data on how Bloomberg would affect down ticket races if he totodeinhere Feb 2020 #16

Bloomberg will help us in TX, Bernie will not Moderateguy Feb 2020 #19

I'm glad that at least you are so sure about that. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #24

I live in a suburb of Dallas Moderateguy Feb 2020 #25

Question- The Mouth Feb 2020 #26

It's problematic Moderateguy Feb 2020 #36

Thanks The Mouth Feb 2020 #81

I am in rural Nevada and I have been involved in local precinct level politics for some time. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #27

Thanks, It is hard to get that point across lynintenn Feb 2020 #63

Sanders seems to be, in the words of the tv talking heads, "running away with the Latino vote." JudyM Feb 2020 #90

Asked on 10% of the results in Nevada Moderateguy Feb 2020 #91

We'll see. He seems to be connecting with them in a way that matters. JudyM Feb 2020 #95

I disagree Catch2.2 Feb 2020 #120

Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most uponit7771 Feb 2020 #151

Same here although when I vote in Presidential years it's only symbolic OKNancy Feb 2020 #10

I like how you think VO ... I'll try to the do the same, but I'm sure not as well ;) (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #11

I live in California nini Feb 2020 #13

Sorry but that's ridiculous. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #18

I don't care what you think nini Feb 2020 #29

I didn't say I would alert. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #34

Ok but like I said nini Feb 2020 #40

Really silly lo! nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #72

What??? What does the popular vote do for us if we don't SDANation Feb 2020 #30

Of course we need the EC Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #37

That's why I'd vote for Bloomberg Sympthsical Feb 2020 #57

Exactly my point nini Feb 2020 #39

Just curious but why do we need to win the popular vote as well? Polybius Feb 2020 #64

Statistical ammunition to take aim at the corrupt electoral college. lambchopp59 Feb 2020 #93

Why is that different than Bernie folks marlakay Feb 2020 #41

It only matters if Sanders supporters do it. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #42

I'd still write in a Dem.. nini Feb 2020 #133

what I hate about the electoral college handmade34 Feb 2020 #74

I'm in Michigan and whoever the Dem candidate is will need Michigan gollygee Feb 2020 #132

Great. Everybody needs to pledge support for our eventual nominee no matter who she or he turns out totodeinhere Feb 2020 #14

Exactly. I was on enough debate teams arguing sides I didn't agree with that I can eventually highplainsdem Feb 2020 #15

I hope, if he wins, Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #21

Hate bernie Attitude, rudeness, very stubborn, mshasta Feb 2020 #108

Not that I like her much outside her anti war views, but Tulsi as vp would peel away Lucky Luciano Feb 2020 #47

UGH pamdb Feb 2020 #50

yep.... dhill926 Feb 2020 #20

I'll happily vote for whoever the nominee is. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #22

your better than me Deero Feb 2020 #23

*you're RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #31

You have expressed my attitude toward him exactly. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #32

The defense rests. Mme. Defarge Feb 2020 #33

I'll give him my vote (and get my immediate family members to vote for him) but I will not lift a helpisontheway Feb 2020 #35

A lot of us have had to do the same thing in the past. Its not about feelings. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #38

Exactly NOVADAVE Feb 2020 #61

Bernie VP will be key aeromanKC Feb 2020 #43

No worries bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #44

A fair stance. ancianita Feb 2020 #45

Take heart! You can still happily support down-ballot candidates! Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #46

My feelings ecactly. dflprincess Feb 2020 #48

What I will do is everything I can to save the House. RandySF Feb 2020 #49

20% evertonfc Feb 2020 #51

Fellow rabid wolverine willing to stuff it, and do my best for the ultimate nominee Mersky Feb 2020 #52

I've always liked Sanders and still do! ananda Feb 2020 #53

I'm with you, VO..... Sogo Feb 2020 #54

Agreed. I really hope he doesn't choose Tulsi as VP ecstatic Feb 2020 #55

Oof. Mersky Feb 2020 #62

I like all the candidates. I would even vote for Bloomberg to thwart Trump corruption. The Wielding Truth Feb 2020 #56

Not only will I bookmark this, but I may print it out and hang it on the wall. :) Sloumeau Feb 2020 #58

Fair Enough Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #60

+1000 Heartstrings Feb 2020 #66

Here is what the Bernie Bangers will never understand... world wide wally Feb 2020 #67

Which may mean. Rilgin Feb 2020 #116

I can only wish you the best of luck... world wide wally Feb 2020 #130

Ok, putin & tRump have really stirred things up on DU the last few days, their cyber war seems to be yaesu Feb 2020 #68

I will support the nominee of the party Gothmog Feb 2020 #69

If Anyone Including A Ham Sandwich Is The Nominee Running Against Trump This Is What I Would Do DanieRains Feb 2020 #70

If Bernie is the nominee I plan on following Bernie's actions and . . . grantcart Feb 2020 #75

Before doing my taxes I looked at the tax rate for those European countries Bernie wants to emulate. Old Terp Feb 2020 #110

Denmark's top marginal rate is 60%, not counting the VAT. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #112

And Denmark's taxes also do not cover all health care costs, according to what I read on Wikipedia. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #113

I understand how you feel. I believe Sanders will be a disaster for the Democratic Party, and that highplainsdem Feb 2020 #114

As a student of history, you know we are becoming what we fought. yardwork Feb 2020 #158

Thank you for saying what I have been thinking. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #76

Excellent post. I lasted 25 years. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #78

I like Bernie and the others enough to fall firmly in line ... jimlup Feb 2020 #79

I guess I'd vote just like many Repub congressmen did... El Supremo Feb 2020 #80

UGH!!!! Prue Feb 2020 #82

I agree with your original statement Skittles Feb 2020 #139

We all have to be politicians sometime in our lives (grin) Prue Feb 2020 #156

Well said indeed. I feel the same way. CaptainTruth Feb 2020 #83

What's tragic is that Bernie cultists won't do the same New Breed Leader Feb 2020 #84

That's the dilemma. If someone like Biden or Buttigieg is nominated The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #87

My Concern is War and More War McKim Feb 2020 #134

Smearing Sanders voters is probably not a good look. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #149

Neither is smearing Democrats. New Breed Leader Feb 2020 #166

Someone in this thread says they won't vote for Sanders if the nominee. David__77 Feb 2020 #165

Well stated. mzmolly Feb 2020 #85

You realize many of the 2016 Bernie supporters did exactly that for Hillary Arazi Feb 2020 #86

True. But many did not, and voted for Jill Stein instead. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #88

More PUMAs did that to Obama than Sanders' supporters did with Hillary nt Arazi Feb 2020 #89

12 percent of people who voted for Sanders in the 2016 primaries voted for Trump in the GE. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #96

Thank you. Sparkly Feb 2020 #118

I'll vote for him and then vociferously call for him to be primaried if he runs octoberlib Feb 2020 #92

I will work to save the House and pray that we manage to do so...we are going to lose the general... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #94

It took you four paragraphs to say: I'll vote for Bernie although I hate him. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #97

I wanted to explain why. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #98

Knock yourself out then. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #100

Well, this is an Internet message board for politics and we're allowed to do that. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #101

Like I said: knock yourself out. I also have a right to read what you wrote. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #103

I'm not stopping you. Suit yourself. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #104

ROFL greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #107

Just do vote blue no matter. lambchopp59 Feb 2020 #99

He won't see dime one from me greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #102

I like Bernie .... Shoonra Feb 2020 #106

+1 TVO. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #111

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #115

Do you give lessons? ewagner Feb 2020 #117

I am in a very safe state. Sparkly Feb 2020 #119

Is any state really safe anymore? AirmensMom Feb 2020 #143

Thank you. warmfeet Feb 2020 #121

Ah, good krny9 Feb 2020 #122

You mean like 12% of Bernie's supporters did in 2016? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #123

Well said. Not my first choice... paleotn Feb 2020 #124

VO, you must have been reading my mind. badhair77 Feb 2020 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #126

You must have found it interesting enough to bother to comment, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #128

Yet you found it interesting enough to comment. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #129

I don't dislike him at all Kali Feb 2020 #135

I intend to support whatever choice we make for a Democratic nominee fully as well because cstanleytech Feb 2020 #136

Maybe we should get rabid wolverine t-shirts! Blue, no matter who. IndyOp Feb 2020 #138

Blue no matter who. AllyCat Feb 2020 #140

Well said dlk Feb 2020 #141

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #142

I like Bernie. The way you feel about Bernie is how I feel about Bloomberg. redqueen Feb 2020 #145

Bernie has said all along that no one person can accomplish all that he proposes.... Doitnow Feb 2020 #146

Whatever. notinkansas Feb 2020 #147

Didn't I just say I'd work my butt off to get him elected if he's the nominee? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #148

If forced to vote for one less objectionable fool over a massively objectionable fool... NNadir Feb 2020 #152

If you dislike Sanders the middle will hate him IE his lack of swing state appeal outside of MOE uponit7771 Feb 2020 #153

I will just say this,, mdbl Feb 2020 #154

You just NAILED it. MarianJack Feb 2020 #155

Well said. This is pretty much exactly how I feel. yardwork Feb 2020 #157

What if Bernie picks Tulsi Gabbard as his VP? Loki Feb 2020 #159

you represent yourself as a professional in argumentation NJCher Feb 2020 #161

I was making a point using a bit of hyperbole, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #164