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PufPuf23

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50. Maybe the "Underground" is now the misnomer?

Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:34 PM

Feb 2020

The DU of today is not the DU of the GWB years.

I am troubled that so many well spoken posters left and how those voices are loosely grouped as Russian bots now.

The big sin is to not support the failed policies of neoliberalism, failed in that the "goods" derived from neoliberalism could have been achieved by other, often cheaper, methods. Failed in that look at the mess we are in now.

That said, I am a supporter of Warren this cycle but perhaps she is best left in the Senate or moved to Cabinet or VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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I don't get all the negative posts about Bernie. [View all] kacekwl Feb 2020 OP

Our Senator, who is a great Senator, Loses..... LovingA2andMI Feb 2020 #1

Based on... Lordquinton Feb 2020 #84

Our Knowledge... LovingA2andMI Feb 2020 #114

Bernie won the MI primary in 2016. Are you KPN Feb 2020 #107

This is not 2016 LovingA2andMI Feb 2020 #113

One of my sisters lives there. She doesn't share your view. KPN Feb 2020 #124

Um Uh.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2020 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author IluvPitties Feb 2020 #2

I always vote for Democrats. apcalc Feb 2020 #3

same musette_sf Feb 2020 #7

You will, I will. Big Blue Marble Feb 2020 #8

+1. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #54

For good reason! We've drifted so far right most Democrats grew up with no comprehension of what... DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #79

This! AverageJoe Feb 2020 #83

He really doesn't have to alienate us-- dawg day Feb 2020 #95

I have been a loyal Democrat since ever I cast my first vote AverageJoe Feb 2020 #99

Well, he could make it easier on everyone by just, well, being nicer- dawg day Feb 2020 #118

+1! tecelote Feb 2020 #92

The problem ultimately is not getting enough things done for the people dansolo Feb 2020 #111

And you wonder why Sanders is heated sometimes? DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #130

+1 denverbill Feb 2020 #121

in the end catsudon Feb 2020 #69

This is my take as well Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #75

He is a Democrat of convenience. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #80

That he calls himself a Democratic Socialist or an Independent is only a label. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #127

What does that mean? Lordquinton Feb 2020 #85

I don't Skidmore Feb 2020 #103

Anyone in this country is supposed to be allowed to express their opinion and Doitnow Feb 2020 #94

Yep! Alliepoo Feb 2020 #128

Well lots of DU posters have magic 8 balls so they know exactly what will happen Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #4

A magic 8 ball is not necessary. Big Blue Marble Feb 2020 #10

You're just helping Trump with this commentary juliuswest Feb 2020 #28

Yes... people should realize that such divisiveness only helps tRumpty Dumbty!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #60

First they need to beat Bernie, NoDakLinda Feb 2020 #42

Exactly, you'd think candidates who have yet to beat Bernie in a single state InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #63

Last time Trump had you solidly behind him. Codeine Feb 2020 #132

There may be other possibilities, such as his goal to sow discord among Dems, which is what looks JudyM Feb 2020 #43

Magic 8 ball not needed to see the glaringly obvious Skittles Feb 2020 #71

Like these voters that chose Sanders and then voted for blue-wave Feb 2020 #91

Haven't you been paying attention to what he and his supporters have been saying about us Democrats? W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #5

I have been paying attention and kacekwl Feb 2020 #19

The process is playing out as we speak. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #20

Coronate the man, reminds me of how I used to speak of Clinton in 2016 juliuswest Feb 2020 #30

Hillary won a majority of the vote in Nevada. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #33

She wouldn't win the majority this election with four more candidates juliuswest Feb 2020 #37

The only reason you have so many candidates in the race now... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #40

With 27% reporting - Bernie has 46.6% womanofthehills Feb 2020 #48

He's got some votes in three caucuses. That's it! And MSM/pundits and supporters have gone emmaverybo Feb 2020 #44

100% THIS oasis Feb 2020 #102

dont ya know the entire democratic establishment is out to get him msongs Feb 2020 #6

DU is not a progressive/liberal website. It's a Democratic website. n/t denverbill Feb 2020 #9

Interesting isn't it? Big Blue Marble Feb 2020 #12

Yes we are more liberal. PA , my state, will not vote for a Socialist. apcalc Feb 2020 #15

You are wrong - Bernie is up + 4 in latest poll against Trump in PA womanofthehills Feb 2020 #49

What's with the facts? They help make the case for Bernie & defeats the whole purpose of bashin him! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #66

Just wait until Bernie's past comes into focus. redstateblues Feb 2020 #73

You may be right , but also not. apcalc Feb 2020 #109

It seems that voters in Nevada who identify as moderate/conservative juliuswest Feb 2020 #32

That's a two percent difference. Biden got more AA votes, despite splitting with five others. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #47

It's a progressive/liberal website. Sanders is a socialist and has called himself a socialist for highplainsdem Feb 2020 #16

He can't run as an independent and have a chance in the GE juliuswest Feb 2020 #35

Bull Moose. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #39

Ironic that Sanders is the Democratic candidate most like FDR PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #46

Aside from his proposals, there is the man himself. He will be challenged on his accomplishments emmaverybo Feb 2020 #51

Sanders is not my candidate, Warren is but I am worried about her viability now and PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #57

Yes. Bloomberg's strong support surprises me. With the leak about Russian interfering, we will emmaverybo Feb 2020 #64

It wasn't a leak it was a briefing provided to WAPO Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #119

Agree. We need to know what they are up to specifically. But Sanders does have an ax to grind emmaverybo Feb 2020 #129

Which of the F.D.R. Wannabes Actually Understands New Deal Liberalism? lapucelle Feb 2020 #89

BS, Bernie only adopts the D when it benefits him. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #34

What do you think "underground" means, in Democratic Underground? redqueen Feb 2020 #59

I think that name was chosen 20 years ago and fit well at the beginning. denverbill Feb 2020 #120

I just mean we're supposed to be smarter than pretending "establishment" means every democrat. redqueen Feb 2020 #122

I never said establishment means every Democrat. And I don't think that. denverbill Feb 2020 #123

I think that is true in a sense. David__77 Feb 2020 #100

at some point, we seem to have become CU or MU NRaleighLiberal Feb 2020 #11

2016. hay rick Feb 2020 #21

Maybe the "Underground" is now the misnomer? PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #50

Well said redqueen Feb 2020 #61

Thank you. I miss the old DU too. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #65

I miss the old DU too. I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #97

Actually you'll find most of us Codeine Feb 2020 #62

Moderates have no place here. Its more likely SU. Socialist Underground redstateblues Feb 2020 #74

Seems that way. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #81

America will not elect a socialist president is why. trump will win and democracy will end. brush Feb 2020 #13

Then he should not kacekwl Feb 2020 #23

He still could but we need more than Dems to beat trump. brush Feb 2020 #25

Sanders can mobilise not only young first-time voters Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Feb 2020 #72

As long as he's promising the moon he can't lose redstateblues Feb 2020 #131

It's a hangover left from 2016 Kaleva Feb 2020 #14

If a fraction of the virulent crap that's written about Bernie here jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #17

Yeah noticed that I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #98

Don't get too worked over the opinions here ibegurpard Feb 2020 #18

the majority of reallife dems I know are ok with bernie AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #29

Same ibegurpard Feb 2020 #31

Reminder Trump was impeached and not only that standingtall Feb 2020 #22

He covered up Putin working on his behalf for over a month delisen Feb 2020 #45

What "we" do here has no impact on what voters will do... brooklynite Feb 2020 #24

He is not a Democrat. He hijacked our primaries question everything Feb 2020 #26

He want's to reimagine the party in the image of FDR juliuswest Feb 2020 #36

Which of the F.D.R. Wannabes Actually Understands New Deal Liberalism? lapucelle Feb 2020 #90

thanks for the historical context n/t juliuswest Feb 2020 #93

I wonder why the democratic part lets him run? ripcord Feb 2020 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #77

You may if he gets the nomination. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #27

Did Russia help? It's a fair question. I think this "victory" is tainted. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #38

What some folks would call a "fair question", others would call a slur. nt. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #52

I can read. It's been in all the papers... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #53

Where's the evidence? Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #106

So you're telling me that it all just made-up? It never happened? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #112

That would indeed be laughable, Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #115

Yeah right... um... okay. Sure. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #117

And still others will call an Intelligence Briefing. Squinch Feb 2020 #110

Take a look at some of the things he says on Politifact...TAKE A LOOK AT POLITIFACT Linda Ed Feb 2020 #41

I will vote larwdem Feb 2020 #55

Don't worry, soon the denial & anger over Bernie winnin the Democratic nomination InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #58

he insulted us and our party EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #67

I can't speak for everyone, but I don't consider him a true Democrat. wisteria Feb 2020 #68

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #76

Repeat yourself much? MontanaMama Feb 2020 #82

The stakes are as high as they've ever been Dream Girl Feb 2020 #70

It's viscerally re-fighting 2106. nt Gore1FL Feb 2020 #78

For voters to decide wisely, they need information. Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #86

Fear makes people say and do things they might not do otherwise Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #87

I don't get why Bernie attacks the Democratic party on an almost daily basis. pnwmom Feb 2020 #88

We are here to discuss the merits randr Feb 2020 #101

It is not about our chosen candidate but about losing the general. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Feb 2020 #108

Well said. Putin loves our division. Sienna86 Feb 2020 #116

Still another time/space gulping BS thread - with the same bs defenses empedocles Feb 2020 #126