Democratic Primaries

uponit7771

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163. Facts matter and Sanders swing state polling is lack luster at best and has been for the last 3 ...

Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:29 PM

Feb 2020

... months.

Becoming the democratic front runner didn't help Obama in swing states in 2008 it sure isn't going to help someone with even less appeal than him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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'Kiss Florida goodbye': Voto Latino head warns Democrats of coming 2020 debacle [View all] still_one Feb 2020 OP

Sanders won overwhelming support among Latinos in NV berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #1

How many of those in Nevada are Cuban? George II Feb 2020 #8

Yep, big difference there. Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #31

I totally agree Gobbierella Feb 2020 #116

Not just a mistake... it can also be insulting to some to make those kind of assumptions. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #133

Yep, the moderate Hillary Clinton took Florida in 2016. Oh wait, no she didn't. brutus smith Feb 2020 #51

Haven't you heard? Only moderates can win General Elections OliverQ Feb 2020 #169

Meh, all Latinos are the same, right? MH1 Feb 2020 #55

After I read the first post that was my first thought Butterflylady Feb 2020 #114

How many of those Floridians of Cuban extraction are third- or fourth-generation... MrModerate Feb 2020 #121

As a Florida native, I can tell you that there are lots of them. And they don't Nay Feb 2020 #129

Cubans consistently vote Republican anyway. OliverQ Feb 2020 #168

No they don't: George II Feb 2020 #170

Yes. Fidel and the Bay of Pigs is to Cubans Captain Zero Feb 2020 #183

or Venezuelan Rumanji Feb 2020 #173

It's not the same. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #33

Sanders is polling at 10% in Florida. octoberlib Feb 2020 #40

Do you have this poll? thx in advance ... I think its pretty important uponit7771 Feb 2020 #159

I actually saw it on here somewhere last week in the comments. octoberlib Feb 2020 #199

16% by the looks of it, second place to Biden. Why would Biden win FL if Hillary didn't, though? JudyM Feb 2020 #195

They like Biden more and he's against easy access to guns uponit7771 Feb 2020 #200

And that matters how? bitterross Feb 2020 #135

Is Florida planning on going Blue in 2020? Autumn Feb 2020 #2

Which are nothing like Florida. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6

Thank you for stating that so much better than I did in my post #31 Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #35

And I don't think he'd be popular with the Batistas. burrowowl Feb 2020 #167

"Florida" doesn't plan anything, the voters do. I doubt there are many Cubans or South Americans.... George II Feb 2020 #9

We got a lot of Latinos, and they like Bernie. Didn't have to look for it cause I know it. Autumn Feb 2020 #15

"A lot"? What is the magnitude of "a lot"? Cuban refugees and their families will NOT vote... George II Feb 2020 #17

You can google breakdowns and articles the same as I can. Good luck George. Autumn Feb 2020 #28

Not interested. I already know the numbers, Autumn. George II Feb 2020 #30

Then don't ask me an question George if you know the answer already. Autumn Feb 2020 #84

That was a question about YOUR perception of "a lot", the term you used..... George II Feb 2020 #88

Many of the Puerto Ricans came to Florida after the hurricane. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #37

Too and we have 5 other candidates who are diluting the percentage of votes FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #54

Yes, his history of praising Castro will go over so well in Florida. ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

"Praise" maybe, but definitely no shrine to Fidel. So, there's that. oasis Feb 2020 #158

Lots of Cuban refugees in Florida. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #3

...and they are largely Republican, so we're unlikely to get most of those votes, thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7

Not anymore.... George II Feb 2020 #13

Encouraging. Maybe that's part of why nearly ALL our candidates are looking competitive there. nt thesquanderer Feb 2020 #27

Which makes sense. Trump has made it extremely difficult for John Fante Feb 2020 #38

Thanks, George. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #44

45% were Democrats or Independents as of 2018 TwilightZone Feb 2020 #14

Exactly. It shows how out of touch people that make that claim are. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #29

Which means 65% are Republican? quakerboy Feb 2020 #86

55% mac56 Feb 2020 #126

Wow. Thanks. I did not math that well quakerboy Feb 2020 #202

The younger ones aren't mostly republican. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #25

I understand they do not like Trump. apcalc Feb 2020 #49

Not as much as they used to be democrattotheend Feb 2020 #109

And families... children... grandchildren. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #10

Exactly. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #47

Lots of Puerto Ricans in central florida that got screwed over by the orange shit stain mitch96 Feb 2020 #16

Are thete enough of them to carry the state in the general? wnylib Feb 2020 #118

The younger Cubans are not so hard core but if they have film of Bernie praising Fidel .... Botany Feb 2020 #91

Inter-generational conflict: Florida senior retirees don't want to pay for Bernie's proposals bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #4

I am more worried about our Congresspeople in FL Moderateguy Feb 2020 #5

Thank you for this report, still_one. Cha Feb 2020 #11

President Obama won Florida, and it was a critical state as we all remember in 2000 still_one Feb 2020 #12

Most critical.. nader and sarandon made sure we Cha Feb 2020 #21

we lost florida in 2000 because the votes were not counted questionseverything Feb 2020 #111

sarandon and nader were a big part of why we lost Florida Cha Feb 2020 #184

Hillary lost Florida, not Susan Sarandon. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #180

Obama is not socialist. wnylib Feb 2020 #64

I think Sanders embracing Fidel Castro during the cold war will not play well there for the majority still_one Feb 2020 #71

We couldn't even win back Florida in our 2018 wave election. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #18

That's right.. "endorsed by sanders". Cha Feb 2020 #22

His endorsement was like the kiss of death in all but the bluest of areas. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #24

Good thing Hillary won Florida in 2016. Oh, no she didn't. brutus smith Feb 2020 #52

So if Hilary could not win FL, do you wnylib Feb 2020 #113

Gillum lost by 24,000 vote. Nelson lost by around 4,000 votes. Blue_true Feb 2020 #39

Look for a repeat in 2020, which wnylib Feb 2020 #124

Florida has 11 days of early voting plus Election Day. Blue_true Feb 2020 #144

Don't count on poll wstchers. wnylib Feb 2020 #151

You make really wild claims. Poll watcher are people that are loyal to the party Blue_true Feb 2020 #153

LOL. Let's talk about reality. wnylib Feb 2020 #155

You keep spinning up massive in scale conspiracies. Blue_true Feb 2020 #160

That still hurts and I don't live in Florida! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #50

Aren't they worried about DACA, family immigrating to the no_hypocrisy Feb 2020 #19

Seriously. Yo do know that they you have to be a US CITIZEN to vote.. Moderateguy Feb 2020 #26

Cubans do not have to worry about DACA. wnylib Feb 2020 #137

I think Virginia will flip back to red if Sanders helpisontheway Feb 2020 #20

Gees, I don't know about that. Duppers Feb 2020 #154

Voto Latino should maybe explain to them the difference between Bernie and Cuba and that the GOP is Autumn Feb 2020 #23

If Sanders is the nominee, FL dems will have a much bigger fight on their hand Moderateguy Feb 2020 #32

Maybe you should. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #34

+1000 sheshe2 Feb 2020 #57

While I do speak and understand Spanish, enough to follow a conversation I don't read or write it. Autumn Feb 2020 #94

that's Bernie Sanders responsibility. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #36

Bernie and his supporters should be doing that. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #61

Florida Democrats are the one's saying that Trump is targeting their voters. I doubt that Autumn Feb 2020 #140

Yes, the GOP is lying to them. wnylib Feb 2020 #132

What kind of enlightenment are you wnylib Feb 2020 #139

Have you not heard Trump saying Democrats are all radical socialists? Autumn Feb 2020 #147

Democrats as socialists is not a new wnylib Feb 2020 #152

If ANY of our candidates become the nominee and we lose FL and WI, we have no real path Celerity Feb 2020 #41

According to the latest polls, Wisconsin doesn't look good for us still_one Feb 2020 #42

That was the reason I made this as a reply in another thread several days back, in reply to a FL Celerity Feb 2020 #56

I think your analysis is right on Celerity still_one Feb 2020 #72

I am so worried on so many levels. The best thing that could happen now is (and my dog, what a Celerity Feb 2020 #78

That was a big factor in 2008 for sure, but I wouldn't count on it this time. I think a lot of us still_one Feb 2020 #98

+100000000 Celerity Feb 2020 #100

...................... still_one Feb 2020 #102

I have another concern, as if we don't already wnylib Feb 2020 #150

I think IF he was going to pull the old state of national emergency card out, he would have to do it Celerity Feb 2020 #172

I agree with you on MFA. wnylib Feb 2020 #191

Ugghhh, that is not welcome news. Let us all hope we can turn it around. Celerity Feb 2020 #192

Losing WI appears to doom us andym Feb 2020 #43

Wisconsin isn't a make or break, if we capture Florida, Ohio, North Carolina for example still_one Feb 2020 #48

WI and FL, if lost, more than likely doom us. The odds of flipping what is is left are very Celerity Feb 2020 #99

Nebraska could split its EC votes jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #60

I am aware of that but NE-2, which went Trump last time, is very unlikely to be flipped Blue Celerity Feb 2020 #68

Trump won Omaha by 2 percent in 2016 jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #127

Well, if we did flip it, and Trump keeps ME-2 Red, then we are right back to the 269-269 ultimate Celerity Feb 2020 #142

I made a mistake in reply to you, that makes flipping NE-2 less likely, & why I did not focus on it Celerity Feb 2020 #148

Good point. jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #157

I'd be cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #69

I wish I could share this post. Nt xmas74 Feb 2020 #95

we're not winning Wisconsin. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #143

Thank you so much for posting this. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #165

Good analysis - we need a candidate that can win Florida and Wisconsin. One is out there.... George II Feb 2020 #198

Yes, kiss it goodbye soon as Sanders /Castro comes to light. apcalc Feb 2020 #45

Will not play well with most in Florida. William769 Feb 2020 #46

President Obama won Florida twice . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #53

Sanders is actually doing very well with Latinos! ananda Feb 2020 #58

Cuba! Castro! Refugees! Ffs Dream Girl Feb 2020 #82

they do not know the difference Skittles Feb 2020 #123

They vote Republican anyway, at least the older voters. Ffs SMC22307 Feb 2020 #174

I'm speechless. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #87

Not the same in Florida. Sanders workers better get on the ball with regards to the areas of the USA rockfordfile Feb 2020 #119

Maybe but.. cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #59

Not close enough vercetti2021 Feb 2020 #65

If Hispanics come out hard.. cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #67

True dat . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #89

Abbott, Patrick and all them have numbered days vercetti2021 Feb 2020 #117

Texas is a fossil fuel state. Not going to happen rockfordfile Feb 2020 #125

We have just been blue-wave Feb 2020 #62

what, are they gonna vote for trump then?? AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #63

I don't know what the Cuban Americans in Florida will do. If they don't like either candidate they still_one Feb 2020 #79

considering they voted republican in the past is not the worst outcome AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #138

Not Playing Well To Latinos JGug1 Feb 2020 #66

I believe she is reflecting the views of Cuban Americans in Florida still_one Feb 2020 #74

Nevada and Florida are not the same. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #108

Not just Cubans. SoFlo has a shedload of South Americans from nations that had socialist governments Celerity Feb 2020 #149

'Kiss Florida goodbye': Voto Latino head warns Democrats of coming 2020 debacle. LenaBaby61 Feb 2020 #73

Young Latinos are nothing like the old socialist-hating Cuban exile community, which is... Tarc Feb 2020 #75

Same shit, different year. Initech Feb 2020 #76

Florida is always fool's gold for Democrats n/t Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #77

Re. socialism. Laelth Feb 2020 #80

I'd happily trade Florida for Texas. quakerboy Feb 2020 #81

No that's not reality. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #105

as of 2017 quakerboy Feb 2020 #164

Socialism is not winning concept in FL. IluvPitties Feb 2020 #83

Someone mentioned Puerto Ricans cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #85

Wait til they get the true Bernie views on immigration. Sure he has evolved, but when the GOP emmaverybo Feb 2020 #92

That kind of talk shows a degree of being out of touch. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #122

Well if Bernie wins the nomination cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #166

Is "Voto Latino" threatening as a means to an end to turn people away from Sanders? Perseus Feb 2020 #90

Agreed. But as we've seen thru the years, people in general can really be dumb at times. Nay Feb 2020 #136

Sanders wins Texas. 7horses Feb 2020 #93

Perhaps, but all the polls I have seen thus far is that no Democratic candidate is winning against still_one Feb 2020 #101

Isn't Texas an hour behind Florida? Iliyah Feb 2020 #104

No. Why did you say that? Texas is a fossil fuel state. you're trolling rockfordfile Feb 2020 #115

Please don't troll uponit7771 Feb 2020 #134

You are missing one important thing- James48 Feb 2020 #96

You realize this isn't my opinion, it is Mara Teresa Kumar still_one Feb 2020 #103

Younger Cuban-Americans have been more liberal than previous generations IronLionZion Feb 2020 #97

I am not from Florida, so I have no idea what the sentiment is still_one Feb 2020 #106

I've said this as well democrattotheend Feb 2020 #107

Good point! warmfeet Feb 2020 #110

I'm sick of TheFarseer Feb 2020 #112

Who are you calling a "concern troll"? The OP is just displaying an article by Mara Teresa Kumar still_one Feb 2020 #128

I certainly don't mean the OP TheFarseer Feb 2020 #130

+++ Appreciate the clarification. Thanks still_one Feb 2020 #131

Cuban latino's vote Republican anyway ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #120

The older ones definitely do. I belonged to a theater group that was founded by Cuban Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #156

Seriously. Why is DU in such a panic over this? SMC22307 Feb 2020 #175

To answer your question ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #179

Education and healthcare for all will not be free. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #178

It will still be cheaper than what you're paying for your Healthcare & Education ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #181

For many of us it won't actually. But I would pay more taxes so others can have coverage though emmaverybo Feb 2020 #182

When Johnson signed Medicare into law ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #185

i rather hear from the voters themselves instead of a ceo. That's usually where the sanders will Kurt V. Feb 2020 #141

Bernie is polling within the margin of error of beating Trump to Prosper Feb 2020 #145

National polls are irrelevant. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #161

Not in Florida and MOE on "other than x" incumbent candidate nationally is horrible uponit7771 Feb 2020 #162

The division which this post has generated is precisely why the Russians promote Senator Sanders! IndianaDave Feb 2020 #146

Facts matter and Sanders swing state polling is lack luster at best and has been for the last 3 ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #163

But when those in swing states are asked about ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #176

In Nevada, a LOT of republicans registered to vote as Democrats NCProgressive Feb 2020 #171

Sorry, But She Always Seems To Have Excuses For Latinos Not Voting Me. Feb 2020 #177

Case and point...Rep Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (FL) PunkinPi Feb 2020 #186

Oh , just more doom and gloom fallout87 Feb 2020 #187

Can you quantify that? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #189

LoL, are you my biggest fan? fallout87 Feb 2020 #193

I have just become obessesed with quantification. I have no heart. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #196

I would love to win all 50 States, or at the very least all of the states now called "purple" Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #188

I wouldn't "count on taking Florida's" electoral votes regardless Politicub Feb 2020 #190

Better look to for a makeup for VA electoral votes if that guy gets the nomination. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #194

Thankfully, the Latino vote is not a monolith, and Cuban-Americans are a very small slice. intheflow Feb 2020 #197

Florida Democratic Party disavows Sanders. Gothmog Feb 2020 #201

This makes me smile Gothmog Mar 2020 #203