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Celerity

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43. If you want to get within sniffing distance of accruing enough political power to do that, then

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

Feb 2020

absolutely remove the false socialist labels from it all, as that ship ain't sailing in reactionary America under that banner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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About the Democratic Socialists of America, the group that is going all out for Bernie, [View all] pnwmom Feb 2020 OP

so how is prime minister corbyn doing these days? nt msongs Feb 2020 #1

Ooooooooooooooh empedocles Feb 2020 #13

You are better than this. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #2

evidently not questionseverything Feb 2020 #5

What is this ISA group that appeared in Richland, WA with Sanders? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #3

if being a socialist means we all get decent healthcare...count me in questionseverything Feb 2020 #4

It won't. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #7

you don't know that afterall medicare works pretty well questionseverything Feb 2020 #9

They are vastly overpromising on Medicare. It isn't free. pnwmom Feb 2020 #11

You do not need socialism to have good and universal healthcare, all the other advanced nations do Celerity Feb 2020 #30

I'm not afraid of socialists. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #6

I'm afraid of a socialist whose brand will cause him to lose the Presidential election pnwmom Feb 2020 #8

if you were really afraid you would stop spreading the narrative questionseverything Feb 2020 #10

I would much rather have Elizabeth Warren win, an honest leftist with detailed proposals. pnwmom Feb 2020 #14

i would be great with warren for pres or as sanders vp but questionseverything Feb 2020 #15

They might not count for leftist progressives, but they DO count for millions of Americans pnwmom Feb 2020 #18

Words matter. Dictionary definitions matter. nt SunSeeker Feb 2020 #20

you may want a mixed economy, but a large portion of the intellectual forces behind Sanders most Celerity Feb 2020 #32

Yes! empedocles Feb 2020 #12

+++ still_one Feb 2020 #51

Lots of Democrats have been in DSA. Dolores Huerta, Ron Dellums... David__77 Feb 2020 #16

Bernie is not part of DSA. So this is irrelevant. DanTex Feb 2020 #17

The DSA is not a political party. He doesn't need to be a "member" of it. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #21

So? It still has members, and Bernie isn't one of them. What is the point of this? DanTex Feb 2020 #22

He may not be a dues paying member, but he's unequivocally a Democratic Socialist. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #23

He uses the same name as the Democratic Socialists. You expect average voters pnwmom Feb 2020 #24

Average voters have never heard of DSA. DanTex Feb 2020 #25

You don't think the Trump campaign will plaster info about them all over the media? pnwmom Feb 2020 #27

Not really, since Bernie has nothing to do with DSA. DanTex Feb 2020 #29

Tell that to its website. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #36

"You don't think the Trump campaign will plaster info about them all over the media?" You're doing a cliffside Feb 2020 #35

We shouldn't wait till the general election to acknowledge the problems a candidate pnwmom Feb 2020 #37

And we should not do the dirty work for the Trump party. nt cliffside Feb 2020 #38

Bernie's been shooting himself in the foot. Sorry, I couldn't help notice. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #40

I'm not into defining people by a label or ... nt cliffside Feb 2020 #41

Trump is the world's expert on branding. We better learn something about it, fast. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #42

There are choices to be made, you can either side with the Trump party or defend policies that ... cliffside Feb 2020 #44

Another option is to pick another excellent candidate who isn't insisting on an unpopular brand. pnwmom Feb 2020 #45

One could push back as Sanders does by pointing out examples of corporate socialism ... cliffside Feb 2020 #47

Then you should ask Bernie not to call himself a Democratic Socialist. pnwmom Feb 2020 #48

You are the one hung up on a label, not me. Maybe the root of the problem are cliffside Feb 2020 #49

BERNIE himself is hung up on the label. That is why, in the same week pnwmom Feb 2020 #50

This is why Bernie always, inaccurately, says Democratic Socialism is "like Denmark." SunSeeker Feb 2020 #19

Ugh. We'll be seeing more of those, if he makes it to the general. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #26

i am not a socialist democrat and i dont want one as president...so there samnsara Feb 2020 #28

DSA is much further to the left than Bernie Sanders. yardwork Feb 2020 #31

Warren clearly said she is a capitalist, and Bernie said she is a capitalist "through to the bone." pnwmom Feb 2020 #34

Much Ado About Not Much colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #33

Thank you! nt cliffside Feb 2020 #39

If you want to get within sniffing distance of accruing enough political power to do that, then Celerity Feb 2020 #43

You claim to support Warren but Bernie criticizes her for being a "capitalist through to the bone," pnwmom Feb 2020 #46

more about the DSA... which is itself a direct descendant of the SDA (Social Democrats of American) lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #52