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ramen

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36. That is shameful stuff, yeah. And we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:32 PM
Feb 2020

pesky constitution-shredding republicans.. regardless, I understand the thrust of your point. Sanders wouldn't be your choice A or B or C. He and Warren are both my choice A, and I think they both would be positioned well to address the current crisis. Not everybody sees the battlefield that way, and I respect the perspectives of those people, and I don't have a leg to stand on to say that I'm right and they're wrong for the same reason they don't. I'm impressed with Buttigieg. I have been wary of Biden's but thought he performed extremely well in the most recent debate in a way that made me question that assessment.

I think that if all candidates and all their supporters (and let's have some unicorns and shit, because this will not happen) simply campaign on what they are fighting FOR and stick to that, that we end up with a rising tide that actually lifts all boats. When working with a claymore, you want to note which side faces the enemy. The enemy is over there putting kids in actual fucking cages and gutting social services and running his shitty little tv version of the night of the long knives at what is left of the State department.

My two cents. Results may vary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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????? [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 OP
DU isn't representative of all Democrats. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1
We are THAT different than all Dems?? There are Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #5
Yes, I think we are that different. Mariana Feb 2020 #24
+1 yes to all 3 that is what I wrote about earlier in a post of concern . Also often those 3 and no lunasun Feb 2020 #44
Nailed it. redqueen Feb 2020 #52
I agree on all counts Mariana. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #74
Necessarily, yes, think of how many people are here, let alone how many regularly/compulsively ramen Feb 2020 #26
I think about the way some of us were shot down and Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #33
That is shameful stuff, yeah. And we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those ramen Feb 2020 #36
labels are rather meaningless Tweedy Feb 2020 #61
Selection bias. MisterFred Feb 2020 #2
Yes... totally get that.. support our final choice. But something Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #9
Oh I agree. He's not a great speaker. MisterFred Feb 2020 #11
I really like how he delivers his stuff. David__77 Feb 2020 #18
Fair enough. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #19
He also built a hell of an election machine. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #28
Good Point. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #34
The only people I know who support Joe Biden are here at DU loyalsister Feb 2020 #20
Me too... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #37
We are more politically active... Moderateguy Feb 2020 #3
Can you clarify what you think Sanders is 'giving away' for free? ramen Feb 2020 #27
Gee, will welfare queens driving Cadillacs be the next thing posted? ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #32
Calm. Perhaps no one has figured out how to express Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #39
I think that wealth inequality in this country is as big of a problem as the military spending, ramen Feb 2020 #42
I think that is what is meant and also "something I didn't get so it's not right for others now " lunasun Feb 2020 #49
Yes. It's the crabs in a bucket syndrome. ramen Feb 2020 #53
Thanks even the conspiracy equivalent mentioned is part of the OP lunasun Feb 2020 #63
At least what people perceive as free stuff: free college tuition & student loan forgiveness are 2 napi21 Feb 2020 #57
These countries cover college tuition: ramen Feb 2020 #58
I know there are countries that have free college tuition, or very inexpensive. My granddaughter napi21 Feb 2020 #62
Nail on the head there. The income inequality is directly to blame for a lot of the trouble here. ramen Feb 2020 #73
Also a lot of people do not travel or if they do it is in the confines of a group travel or tourist lunasun Feb 2020 #68
There is another hing that is quite different in European countries. The "luxuries" that we have napi21 Feb 2020 #90
National polls mean little, what are the swing state polls? National polls are M$M Horse race candy uponit7771 Feb 2020 #4
Pretty even for all the Dems vs. Trump. Except Bloomberg, who is behind Trump. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #6
No, there's no even for all dems vs Biden does the best in swings states vs Trump and uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7
Not in the swing state polls I've seen. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #8
Historically, not the current meaningless snap shots BUT ... NBC/WSJ poll has only Biden outside of uponit7771 Feb 2020 #70
Yes. It all makes zero sense. Biden does the best Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #13
The miseducation by the M$M Chris Hayes last night "Why are you freaking out about Sanders?!" uponit7771 Feb 2020 #71
I believe Sanders supporters separated off from this site back in 2016. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #10
Good point. So we, at DU, are primarily more moderate and Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #14
Negatory.. been reading this site for 16-17 years, but only posting for a year or so. ramen Feb 2020 #31
Yeah, Sanders supporters were driven from the site. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #38
He didn't take it to the convention democrattotheend Feb 2020 #86
That's true. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #87
Some of them did democrattotheend Feb 2020 #88
Some of them did democrattotheend Feb 2020 #85
DU is a small unrepresentative sample of a big pool of voters. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #12
Hard to see WG..being in a red state. There's a giant Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #17
Because age and other stuff. David__77 Feb 2020 #15
Well guess if it happens I will go with that...that Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #21
I don't know that I love him, myself... k2qb3 Feb 2020 #16
Agree with what you are saying but it's impossible to believe Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #25
I'm not sure what you mean? k2qb3 Feb 2020 #67
Why do you need to "love" a candidate? I've never "loved" a candidate. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #22
I'm SO sorry that you have never loved a candidate. It's Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #29
You seem to be having a difficult time understanding Bernie's appeal ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #41
I am opposed to being brainwashed. democratisphere Feb 2020 #23
Please expound Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #30
Money for nothing and the health care, child care, higher education, democratisphere Feb 2020 #64
I really wish we could talk more about reallocation of Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #80
Yes, sanders supporters must be brainwashed.... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #35
Yet, he wasn't ahead months ago. So if what you Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #40
He was ahead, on the ground. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #43
the voting has just started questionseverything Feb 2020 #45
Don't buy that. Biden best candidate because he Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #48
in your opionion maybe he is best questionseverything Feb 2020 #82
Biden is the only one who maintains his matchup leads in battleground states Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #83
lol your op is about how the polling has all been wrong questionseverything Feb 2020 #84
Actually don't care what you do. those not man enough to declare a choice get low consideration. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #89
drumpf was change and look where it got US. democratisphere Feb 2020 #46
I find your post ironic. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #47
Your last paragraph. What I want to know. Lean Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #50
BS message of FREE. democratisphere Feb 2020 #51
Worked for Trump... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #54
Obama: Hope and Change. democratisphere Feb 2020 #55
Bernie's message is Change and Hope... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #56
Publicly funded is not the same as free. ramen Feb 2020 #59
The public is tapped out barely surviving paycheck to paycheck. democratisphere Feb 2020 #60
Thus Sanders' focus on having the unreasonably rich pay their fair share. ramen Feb 2020 #72
It's not you it's that different voters are voting . Be careful what you wish for I guess lunasun Feb 2020 #65
A lot of Sanders supporters were apparently deleted after 2016 for not supporting Democrats Polybius Feb 2020 #66
That's what I heard also dualboy24 Feb 2020 #69
This Berner Believes The Discrepancy Owes To The Sample Size corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #75
Also I strongly suspect HopeAgain Feb 2020 #79
Point Taken corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #81
I'm guessing the a large number of Sanders supporters don't post here b/c of the the primary climate IVoteDFL Feb 2020 #76
Good post and it's not just getting the car you have to support it with insurance and plates etc lunasun Feb 2020 #91
The only people I know of who don't like Bernie are here. I don't know one person IRL Autumn Feb 2020 #77
DU does not represent the full Demographic of Democrats HopeAgain Feb 2020 #78
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