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40. wow, why wouldn't ... I'm not understanding how they ignored McGoverns unpopularity unless

Reply to Old Terp (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:37 PM

Feb 2020

... some shock event happened at the time?!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why did DNC ignore McGovern national numbers in 1972? McGovern numbers sucked like Sanders [View all] uponit7771 Feb 2020 OP

Kick for Notice uponit7771 Feb 2020 #1

They tried, but we were young and actually jaysunb Feb 2020 #2

Ah, so the new voters didn't show up? Sounds like what is happening now with Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2020 #3

Ditto, but Greenbelt and Takoma Park did go for McGovern Old Terp Feb 2020 #4

Thx, What are the significance of those cities? Tried to google it uponit7771 Feb 2020 #6

Both were very liberal small cities. Maryland went for Nixon Old Terp Feb 2020 #12

wow, why wouldn't ... I'm not understanding how they ignored McGoverns unpopularity unless uponit7771 Feb 2020 #40

I think they had different rules in 1972 bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #5

So there was no way for the party bosses to stop McGovern winning the primary? That stinks ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7

Mondale? Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #8

My voting goes back to Clinton and my mom came and got me out of football practice. What do you uponit7771 Feb 2020 #9

Why don't we discuss how Mondale suffered the worst electoral defeat of any Democratic candidate? Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #13

I'm asking about the objective data before the election, was there any objective data before the uponit7771 Feb 2020 #14

of course there was Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #16

Well there it is then, why did party bosses allow someone who would get mud stomped to become uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19

We don't have 'party bosses' who can just do what they want. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #23

We have super delegates to stop the Red Don's now IINM. What is the need for super delegates if they uponit7771 Feb 2020 #26

umm clinton 8 years, obama 8 years, jfk...well that was a fluke nt msongs Feb 2020 #17

Ummm Nixon 8 years, or rather 6 years as he had to resign Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #20

Think that's wron Old Terp Feb 2020 #22

I guess wikipedia did too. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #25

Mondale's polling sucked before the GE and then after D Convention. Why did they allow this... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #27

You don't consider Mondale a liberal or DC a state equivalent? Old Terp Feb 2020 #35

Mondale 'rescued' the party from the disaster of Jesse Jackson's left wing insurgency candidacy. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #45

We did keep the house Democratic though which is pretty amazing. I think we kept the senate too, bu jimfields33 Feb 2020 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #29

What are you going on about? Mondale was a dyed in the wool liberal PAMod Feb 2020 #48

On the left: Jessie Jackson. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #49

Walter Mondale was a liberal. LIBERAL PAMod Feb 2020 #51

Biden has the best chance of beating Trump. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #10

+1, Sanders says he'll create 20 million jobs and the uninformed believe him uponit7771 Feb 2020 #18

First,it was a wholly different National feeling at that time. Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #11

These things are socialized but what's NOT socialized is McGovern numbers STANK way before uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15

Once he was Nominated, Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #21

WOW !!! The DNC has to step in somehow. Where their no supper delegates back then? thx in advance uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24

Dems at the time wanted some one Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #54

I agree with Historian Stephen Ambrose Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #60

by repeating this over and over isn't going to make it come true. good grief. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #28

Repeating what? Sanders 3 month swing state numbers suck against Trump? they do! At best uponit7771 Feb 2020 #30

Today's electorate is nothing like 1972 so the comparison is not only moot Kurt V. Feb 2020 #31

I agree, we're way more narrowed into swing states and that's where Sanders numbers are at uponit7771 Feb 2020 #32

i take your word for that, as i haven't checked the polling there. regardless we have a terrified Kurt V. Feb 2020 #42

Like Hitler the rest of the country isn't going to be terrified until they see the bodies .... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #44

um, you're basing an awful lot on ONE poll here. bluewater Feb 2020 #33

This is false, the 3 month polling reflects the NBC polling on the other candidates vs Biden. That's uponit7771 Feb 2020 #36

How about you give us the links to your data? You have more than this NBC/WSJ poll, right? bluewater Feb 2020 #37

I did, its in the OP ... Biden is the only candidate that polls outside of the MOE uponit7771 Feb 2020 #39

So you just have the ONE NbC/WSJ Poll? bluewater Feb 2020 #41

No, RCP swing state polling has him doing worse in the big 4 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #43

Now it's only 4 states? Before you were talking 11 states from that NBC/WSJ poll. bluewater Feb 2020 #46

So, they think that Bernie is more likely to lose Progressive dog Feb 2020 #34

Right, I was just informed Mondale's number's sucked too and party bosses didn't step in uponit7771 Feb 2020 #38

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy will be Speaker Gothmog Feb 2020 #47

+1, the data shoes this right now ... And there's no upside appeal to Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2020 #56

"All of my friends voted for McGovern" RandySF Feb 2020 #50

They painted McGovern as a virtual Communist and he was a WWII hero. Good luck to a self described dem4decades Feb 2020 #52

Just wow!!! This and his poll numbers vs Nixon sucked before the convention uponit7771 Feb 2020 #57

Nixon's approval ratings were over 60% during the 1972 election CanonRay Feb 2020 #55

National polling means nothing any longer. Since there has not been a democratically elected... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #58

72 was complicated Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #59

James Clyburn thinks that sanders is like McGovern Gothmog Feb 2020 #61