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Democratic Primaries

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pnwmom

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Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM Feb 2020

Bernie, 2012: "I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced primary opposition." [View all]

Bernie said this as Obama was preparing to run for his second term.

I don't know why any real Democrat would support Bernie after that.

Bernie's camp denies that Bernie said it, but it was taped on a radio show, and I remember hearing about it at the time. The Politico piece contains a link to the Biden ad that includes an audio of Bernie saying it would be a good idea for Obama to face primary opposition.

ON EDIT: For those who cannot believe the words that came from Bernie's mouth, there are multiple witnesses.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/sanders-obama-primary-challenge/606709/

That summer, Sanders privately discussed a potential primary challenge to Obama with several people, including Patrick Leahy, his fellow Vermont senator. Leahy, alarmed, warned Jim Messina, Obama’s presidential reelection-campaign manager. Obama’s campaign team was “absolutely panicked” by Leahy’s report, Messina told me, since “every president who has gotten a real primary has lost a general [election].”

David Plouffe, another Obama strategist, confirmed Messina’s account, as did another person familiar with what happened. (A spokesman for Leahy did not comment when asked several times about his role in the incident.)

Messina called Reid, then the Senate majority leader, who had built a strong relationship with Sanders but was also fiercely defensive of Obama. What could you be thinking? Reid asked Sanders, according to multiple people who remember the conversations. You need to stop.

Sanders didn’t end up running against Obama. But their relationship didn’t improve in the years that followed. In another incident, in 2013, Sanders laid into Obama in a private meeting he held with Democratic senators, saying that the president was selling out to Republicans over Social Security benefits. (More on that incident, which has also not been previously reported, below.)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/biden-ad-sanders-undermined-obama-election-117218

But back in Washington, there was one guy with another plan,” the narrator says before an audio clip is heard of Sanders saying, “I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition.”

SNIP

“This never happened. Bernie Sanders never considered a primary challenge to Obama,” deputy campaign manager Ari Rabin-Havt said in a statement. “Bernie was running for reelection in 2012, and that’s what he was focused on.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If he'd run, he would have gotten demolished. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #1
+++++++++++++++++++++++ sheshe2 Feb 2020 #2
He didn't want to run. MisterFred Feb 2020 #3
Then he shouldn't have brought it up and then claimed he never said it. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #8
That story is based on 2012 stories, based on a few people spreading rumors. MisterFred Feb 2020 #10
No, it was based on Bernie's own spoken words on a radio show, pnwmom Feb 2020 #12
Incorrect. MisterFred Feb 2020 #13
He should have disavowed the suggestion, not said it was a good idea. pnwmom Feb 2020 #15
Yeah, probably. I just don't get why everyone wants to pretend he wanted to run personally. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #16
Probably because of reports like this: pnwmom Feb 2020 #31
Please review post #10. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #32
Please link to Harry Reid's denial and Patrick Leahy's denial. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #33
Well, I'm sorry you're too young to remember 2012. I don't have the links, but MisterFred Feb 2020 #34
Hah. So you looked and couldn't find any. That's what I thought. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #37
Oh, please. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #17
A protest candidate. MisterFred Feb 2020 #29
No, on that radio show, he said it might good if SOMEONE did, but not that HE might. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #4
All "pressure from the left" would have accomplished was weakening Obama before the election. pnwmom Feb 2020 #11
Yes, I saw the link you added. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #41
No. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #14
My post was specifically about what he said in the radio program. It's confusing... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #39
He told Pat Leahy he was thinking about running. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #19
That's from the new Atlantic article... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #40
Kick mcar Feb 2020 #5
Is BS really denying he said that? Cha Feb 2020 #6
Jonathan Alter: "Bernie was the most anti-Obama Democrat I met. By far." oasis Feb 2020 #20
Yeah.. he can't deny this happened. Cha Feb 2020 #22
Bernie folks were quick to dismiss every negative OP Jennifer Rubin oasis Feb 2020 #26
You're Welcome, oasis.. Cha Feb 2020 #28
I cannot understand what is wrong with that. Bonobo Feb 2020 #7
Because all Bernie would have accomplished would be kneecapping Obama pnwmom Feb 2020 #9
Seriously? You don't see what's wrong with primarying a sitting president of your own party? brush Feb 2020 #18
Yup, seriously. Bonobo Feb 2020 #21
Learn some history. Incumbency is a huge advantage. brush Feb 2020 #23
That is absolutely true Bonobo Feb 2020 #24
Apparently. brush Feb 2020 #25
Yup. It's a democracy, donchaknow. Bonobo Feb 2020 #27
Then why did BS deny it? Cha Feb 2020 #35
I don't know. Ask him. As for me, "primarying" a president after a term is fine Bonobo Feb 2020 #38
BS needs to own it. Cha Feb 2020 #42
Is anyone arguing otherwise? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #43
Sanders is no Obama evertonfc Feb 2020 #30
Understatement of the millennium HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #44
And BS denies it.. Cha Feb 2020 #36
If only there was a word for people who aren't truthful. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #45
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