Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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78. You mean giving the nomination to someone with fewer pledged delegates would be

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:28 AM

Feb 2020

un-democratic?

What would you call a candidate who asks superdelegates to do that, even if another candidate has a very clear, wide lead over them?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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And this is how you destroy a party [View all] AverageJoe Feb 2020 OP

Nope, that's how democracy works. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #1

It's not how it's "supposed to work," it's what the party leaders insisted on, at the expense of JudyM Feb 2020 #7

Sanders was involved in the rule changes. He also supporting using SDs in 2016. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #33

It's called working within the system. JudyM Feb 2020 #57

Wait, logic check - PAMod Feb 2020 #104

Because one is still democratic, originally based on population, and the other is based on clout. JudyM Feb 2020 #106

Yes, but the voters sent them there to vote for their candidate PAMod Feb 2020 #109

Superdelegates are not sent by voters. JudyM Feb 2020 #112

Yes, sent by the voters to pick THE VOTER'S PREFERENCE PAMod Feb 2020 #115

This isn't the reality. JudyM Feb 2020 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #32

Sanders was involved in the rule changes. He also supported using SDs to help him win in 2016. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #43

So a candidate trying to convince superdelegates to overthrow the will of the people... ehrnst Feb 2020 #89

"Supressed" by whom and how? ehrnst Feb 2020 #92

I'm not arguing against the rules. They were fought over and arrived at Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #83

You might want to place your finger on the pulse of this country LonePirate Feb 2020 #84

Then Sanders shouldn't have agreed to the rules. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #87

This is how you save a Democracy Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #2

If Dems do this, Trump will win guaranteed. OliverQ Feb 2020 #98

Ridiculous jimfields33 Feb 2020 #3

If he's the delegate leader, yes. If not... TCJ70 Feb 2020 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #34

Let's hope no candidate who is behind by even one pledged delegate tries to pressure superdelegates ehrnst Feb 2020 #91

If he can't rally majority support... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #5

Agreed. We need better controls and filters and conditions. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #11

You have to wonder about a guy who runs for prez the FIRST apcalc Feb 2020 #30

The man has a VERY healthy ego. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #35

+1000 NT Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #45

Entirely different situation. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #56

Exactly right AverageJoe Feb 2020 #72

You mean giving the nomination to someone with fewer pledged delegates would be ehrnst Feb 2020 #78

More than any of the other candidates... and got relected. ehrnst Feb 2020 #85

No, this is how your save a nation WhereAmerica Feb 2020 #6

Head to head polls from RCP show Bernie beating tRump in most states. CentralMass Feb 2020 #42

That would change once they started running ads about Bernie's past redstateblues Feb 2020 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #47

Yet poll after poll has Bernie winning over Trump. Autumn Feb 2020 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #60

So the wealthy will see Bernie's loss as a win? ehrnst Feb 2020 #80

I don't believe they will do that if he has a majority of delegates. That would be a stupid move. Autumn Feb 2020 #8

They should not hand him the nomiation unless he has a winning majority. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #14

That was just what I said. Autumn Feb 2020 #15

I doubt he will and operation chaos has to be consdered as well. We need Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #17

Irrelevant to the article or its topic. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #19

This was my relevant response "I don't believe they will do that if he has a majority of delegates" Autumn Feb 2020 #62

If he has a MAJORITY he will win the ballot. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #59

If a candidate does not have a majority treestar Feb 2020 #9

Handing the nomination to someone who hasn't earned it is how you destroy a party...nt SidDithers Feb 2020 #10

A Sanders nomination would destroy the party. Down ballot races would be disastrous for Democrats redstateblues Feb 2020 #95

Sanders wanted these rules... so now he can live with them. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #12

Sanders is the opponent Mitch wants to reelect Trump bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #13

I'm counting on Joe to start gaining some ground over Bernie. zackymilly Feb 2020 #86

BERNIE DEMANDED THOSE RULES!!!! A plurality goes to a contested convention. Squinch Feb 2020 #16

No he didn't. I have no idea where this talking point came from. DanTex Feb 2020 #18

You are simply wrong. Squinch Feb 2020 #20

I clicked on your link, and it doesn't support your argument. DanTex Feb 2020 #23

. Squinch Feb 2020 #36

That link, of course, has nothing whatsoever to do with Bernie writing the rules... DanTex Feb 2020 #40

I didn't say he wrote them. I said he demanded them. And he did so at a time when he Squinch Feb 2020 #46

He didn't "demand" them either. He wanted there to be no superdelegates. DanTex Feb 2020 #63

I just gave you a source that says its true. But there is no sense arguing with you. Squinch Feb 2020 #65

The source didn't say anything remotely like that. DanTex Feb 2020 #82

Point is, Bernie agreed to the DNC rules when he decided to run as a dem. PunkinPi Feb 2020 #79

Yes, he did, but he didn't "demand" or "write" them. DanTex Feb 2020 #81

He knows. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #27

Stop playing dumb. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #25

Neither of those say that Bernie wrote the rules. Because he didn't. DanTex Feb 2020 #29

Sanders did not want superdelegates to vote in first round. That was his demand. boston bean Feb 2020 #39

Bernie didn't want superdelegates at all. Everyone knows this. DanTex Feb 2020 #44

Bernie fought against them voting in the first round. boston bean Feb 2020 #67

He didn't want supers at all. The DNC took them off the first round as a compromise. DanTex Feb 2020 #70

He is running by the same rules as all. boston bean Feb 2020 #88

If you say someone 'wrote' or 'demanded' the rules to be as they are ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #111

I am arguing he wanted the ability for a more likely brokered convention. boston bean Feb 2020 #120

Karma Sunsky Feb 2020 #121

If Bernie cant convince the superdelegates then he shouldnt be our nominee. honest.abe Feb 2020 #21

Blame the victim logic. NT Eric J in MN Feb 2020 #31

Its the canidate's responsibility to convince the voters. honest.abe Feb 2020 #38

Convince the voters in elections Eric J in MN Feb 2020 #69

I think you are confused by who are the super delegates. honest.abe Feb 2020 #73

You do realize... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #119

He was involved in writing the rules and readily agreed to them when he chose to run as a Dem. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #41

That's like saying someone Eric J in MN Feb 2020 #74

And yet he still agreed to the rules. boston bean Feb 2020 #90

The victim. Who is a victim of having to stand by rules he demanded. Squinch Feb 2020 #52

Bernie Sanders' appointees to the Eric J in MN Feb 2020 #75

Bernie Sanders wanted a contested convention. The rules were changed to allow contested Squinch Feb 2020 #77

He agreed to the rules that is what matters showblue22 Feb 2020 #93

Superdelegates were put in place for exactly the situation we find ourselves in. After the Squinch Feb 2020 #49

Yep. honest.abe Feb 2020 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #61

Superdelegates are good solid longtime Democrats. honest.abe Feb 2020 #66

Good gawd. Squinch Feb 2020 #68

As Warren said last night, Sanders helped write the rules, and everyone agreed to the rules.... George II Feb 2020 #22

Thank God that these Democrats care about their seats enough... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #24

+1 Squinch Feb 2020 #54

By letting him run on our ticket, you may be right. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #26

Bernie is an existential threat to the Democratic Party. beastie boy Feb 2020 #28

+1. Squinch Feb 2020 #50

A Sanders nomination would destroy the party. Down ballot races would lose the House. FL is gone redstateblues Feb 2020 #99

Sounds great to me. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #48

Sanders swing 3 month state numbers are NOT as good as Biden's uponit7771 Feb 2020 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #64

Key words ... Skidmore Feb 2020 #71

It got me to switch my vote. redqueen Feb 2020 #96

Same here. LenaW Feb 2020 #105

Right? redqueen Feb 2020 #117

This will absolutely decimate the Democratic party OliverQ Feb 2020 #97

A Sanders nomination will decimate the party. Say goodbye to the House redstateblues Feb 2020 #100

There is no evidence of that OliverQ Feb 2020 #103

Socialism is not popular with the majority of Americans. redstateblues Feb 2020 #122

The primaries will have failed to choose a nominee PAMod Feb 2020 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #102

It's how a party is saved wyldwolf Feb 2020 #107

Letting people who aren't in the Party run for the nomination is absurd. PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #108

This is why people end up desperate enough to vote for Trump. polichick Feb 2020 #110

Adding Bloomberg has hurt Biden Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #113

Couldn't Bloomberg release his delegates to Biden in that event? Am I not BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #114

When Sanders said 'take on the Dem establishment' this is what he meant. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #118

This is what democracy looks like, actually. BS helped write the rules, too. Hekate Feb 2020 #123